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For Discussion: Would You Vote For The “Personhood” Initiative If It Were Added To A Ballot In Your State???

Posted by on Nov. 9, 2011 at 2:10 PM
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Abortion opponents say they’re still pursuing life-at-fertilization ballot initiatives in six other states after Bible Belt voters in Mississippi defeated one Tuesday.

The “personhood” proposal was intended to prompt a legal challenge aimed at overturning Roe v. Wade, the 1973 U.S. Supreme Court decision that established a legal right to abortion.

Keith Mason is co-founder of Personhood USA, which pushed the Mississippi measure. The Colorado-based group is trying to put initiatives on 2012 ballots in Florida, Montana, Ohio, Oregon, Nevada and California. Voters in Colorado rejected similar proposals in 2008 and 2010.
Nancy Northup, president and CEO of the Center for Reproductive Rights, said the initiatives represent an “extreme, dangerous and direct assault” on abortion rights.

Mason told The Associated Press that Personhood USA might revive efforts for another ballot initiative in Mississippi.

Speaking of the failure in Mississippi on Tuesday, Mason said, “it’s not because the people are not pro-life. It’s because Planned Parenthood put a lot of misconceptions and lies in front of folks and created a lot of confusion.”

Planned Parenthood Federation of America said in a statement: “Mississippi voters rejected the so-called ‘personhood’ amendment because they understood it is government gone too far, and would have allowed government to have control over personal decisions that should be left up to a woman, her family, her doctor and her faith, including keeping a woman with a life-threatening pregnancy from getting the care she needs, and criminalizing everything from abortion to common forms of birth control such as the pill and the IUD.”

Many people feel that there are too many circumstantial nuances within the issue of abortion for it to be legislated by the government.

The so-called “personhood” initiative was rejected by more than 55 percent of Mississippi voters, falling far short of the threshold needed for it to be enacted.

The measure divided the medical and religious communities and caused some of the most ardent abortion opponents, including Republican Gov. Haley Barbour, to waver with their support.

Opponents said the measure would have made birth control, such as the morning-after pill or the intrauterine device, illegal. More specifically, the ballot measure called for abortion to be prohibited “from the moment of fertilization” — wording that opponents suggested would have deterred physicians from performing in vitro fertilization because they would fear criminal charges if an embryo doesn’t survive.

What say you? Is this something that you would endorse in the voting booth??

by on Nov. 9, 2011 at 2:10 PM
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e-doolittle
by Kelly on Nov. 9, 2011 at 2:15 PM
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While I would not personally I have one, I believe that a person should be able to make a choice about what's right for them.  I would not vote for it.

sheri305
by on Nov. 9, 2011 at 2:24 PM

Quoting e-doolittle:

While I would not personally I have one, I believe that a person should be able to make a choice about what's right for them.  I would not vote for it.


SlightlyPerfect
by on Nov. 9, 2011 at 5:34 PM
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How could anyone ethically condone this? I would love to hear the rationale behind that.

Forcing pregnant women to carry to term?

Forcing them to stand trial for abortions (voluntary and involuntary), IVF, having IUDs?

People are sick.

slightlyperfect

kintop
by Bronze Member on Nov. 9, 2011 at 5:40 PM


Quoting e-doolittle:

While I would not personally I have one, I believe that a person should be able to make a choice about what's right for them.  I would not vote for it.


hopemommy2
by Paula on Nov. 9, 2011 at 5:42 PM



Quoting e-doolittle:

While I would not personally I have one, I believe that a person should be able to make a choice about what's right for them.  I would not vote for it.


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deccaf
by Bronze Member on Nov. 9, 2011 at 5:43 PM

I think when the government tries to start regulating morals and values, they are overstepping.  Every woman has the right to decide what she does with her own body.  I have never and would never have an abortion, but I would support every woman's right to have one.  I think the definition being at the moment of fertilization is a bit extreme.  That would mean hormonal birth control that prevents implantation illegal.  ANd what about tubal pregnancies?  That is a fertilized egg but not a viable pregnancy.

ekm0826
by on Nov. 9, 2011 at 5:46 PM

I would never vote for a bill like this.  I don't necessarily agree with abortions, but I do see some times when a woman might want the right to choose.  To put things like birth control and other medical decisions into the hands of the state, is terrible.  This is something that should be discussed and decided with the woman and her doctor. 

Chrismomto5
by on Nov. 9, 2011 at 6:35 PM
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I believe ANY law that would make birth control harder to come by is wrong on so many levels.  The morning after pill is a fantastic invention for women who have been raped, or have an "oh crap" moment.  I myself have used the morning afterpill once.
Giving rights to an unborn fetus is insane.  It leads the way to all miscarriages being investigated by law, and also means that women could be charged with manslaughter if neglect was found that caused the miscarriage.  How many women don't find out they are pregnant until the second month, and have participated in risky behaviors that could harm a fetus/embryo like drinking, smoking, not eating right?  
Also, this "personhood" title would prevent couples from receiving IVF treatments as it would be illegal to "create" a person then destroy it or freeze it.  
 

Stormy6669
by on Nov. 12, 2011 at 3:17 AM

I would not. I believe the mother and father can make decisions for themselves. I have no place to tell anyone what they should or shouldn't do. As much as I don't like abortion, I would never have one myself, but I also would never stop another mom from making the decision she feels is best for her and babies father.

HouseKatof2
by on Nov. 12, 2011 at 3:20 AM

It was on a ballot here... It passed... I voted against it.

Edited to clarify: 

The personhood legislation that passed here is not from fertilization. It is from like 15 weeks or something.   

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