Addictive behavior and ADHD

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  • The_Purple
  on Nov. 5, 2009 at 6:00 PM
• Oh my gosh yes! My daughter is 9 and has ADHD. She was on Strattera but it made her moody and depressed so we took her off. She is very obsessive as I call it. I was just telling my husband the other day actually. She has a severe sweet addiction unlike that of her siblings or other children. She literally acts like an addict, trying to figure out when she can get her next fix, planning out when she is going to get or eat sweets and obsessing over it to the point that it sometimes interferes with her daily activities. She will do this with other things as well but sweets is the most severe. I don't know why she gets like that and it gets really bothersome. It's like she will try to do or think of other things but can't fully concentrate because in the back of her mind she is thinking of sweets (or a computer game, or holiday etc). Her counselor said that it is common behavior for kids with ADHD.
  
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  • PupsCoach
  on Nov. 6, 2009 at 8:19 AM

• That sounds like my daughter, especially when she is not on her meds.  She will do anything and everything to get onto the computer.  She even fixed the internet connection on a computer that my step-father, who is in IT, couldn't fix.  I have to password protect everything with internet access. 

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  • rockstarkk
  on Nov. 6, 2009 at 12:36 PM

• my 14 yr old ds doc explained to us that he's "hyper" focused on the computer games. ADHD actually causes him to focus intently on things that he finds interesting. If it does not interest him there is very little to no focus. So there are games on the computer that he can play for hours on end without even moving out of the chair...this from a child who usually can not sit still for more than a second or two.

  his IEP coach has implemented this at school. my ds brings his laptop and is allowed to use it in some of his classes...he plays non-internet games while quietly sitting and listening to the teacher. he also uses it to take class notes and has to e-mail them in the evening to his IEP coach to show he is using his puter for the assigned reasons. this is the first year he's been able to do this and seems to be working out really good. his puter is locked up at school when he's not using it and the school even provided him a lappy carrying case. this is also the first year I'm not being called into the office every other day. he got off to a rough start to the year but then ds and the coach came up with this computer plan and it's been smooth sailing ever since *knock on wood*
  

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  • sammie_jo78
  on Nov. 6, 2009 at 6:18 PM

• THis is what I was going to say.  If you think about it in the terms that your child needs the computer to calm down...taking it away will make it worse for him. 
  

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  my 14 yr old ds doc explained to us that he's "hyper" focused on the computer games. ADHD actually causes him to focus intently on things that he finds interesting. If it does not interest him there is very little to no focus. So there are games on the computer that he can play for hours on end without even moving out of the chair...this from a child who usually can not sit still for more than a second or two.

   

  
  

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  • onlyboys1417
  on Nov. 7, 2009 at 7:18 AM

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  • fcm
  on Nov. 7, 2009 at 8:26 AM

• It deifnately works as a reward and motivator, but if he is playing games in class and failing there is no choice but to have the teacher take it away. It is innappropriate to use it at that time.

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