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Point of confusion from previous thread:)

Posted by on Jan. 3, 2010 at 10:57 AM
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Asalamu alaikum sisters,

Here is my point at which I became confused:

 “To Him ascend (all) the goodly words, and the righteous deeds exalt it (i.e. the goodly words are not accepted by Allaah unless and until they are followed by good deeds) [Faatir 35:10]

Can you explain this further?  Izza bitreedy, ikhti!  Sounds as though, if we make salat, then say lose our temper (not me, of course LOOOL), that our salat will not be accepted??  Or if we say Tasbeeh or make zhikr, then commit some sin...whatever it might be, that our zhikr or tasbeeh is not accepted??  Help!  JazakAllahu Khairun!


Emm Ali

by on Jan. 3, 2010 at 10:57 AM
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proud2bmom3 Group Owner
by on Jan. 3, 2010 at 3:18 PM

wa alaikum assalaam my dear sister,

it is not that you will lose your salat if you lose your temper.

from my limited knowledge. it means that simple words do not carry weight if you do not perform your obligatory worships.

Islam, and Iman are what is in the heart, and is implemented by actions and deeds. words alone are not enough if there are no deeds.

for example, your thikr, is not enough, and will not be counted for you if you do not pray ( remember prayer is what makes us Muslim. and if you dont' pray, and are NOT Muslim, then whatever deeds or words you say, are worthless. may Allah keep us on His straight path. Ameen.

I will however look up the exact tafseer of the verse from Ibn Katheer and post it here for you insha' Allah.

if I speak in error then it is from me , may Allah forgive me and guide us all to what pleases Him. Ameen.

Love and salaam (peace)

 (proud2bmom3 Muslim Moms-- Owner. 

proud2bmom3 Group Owner
by on Jan. 3, 2010 at 3:58 PM

assalamu alaikum dear sister, I have found the tafseer from Ibn katheer. alhamduilaah,

insha' Allah it will shed more light on the verse , and less confusion:

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﴿إِلَيْهِ يَصْعَدُ الْكَلِمُ الطَّيِّبُ﴾

(To Him ascend the good words,) means, words of remembrance, recitation of Qur'an, and supplications.This was the view of more than one of the Salaf. Ibn Jarir recorded that Al-Mukhariq bin Sulaym said that "`Abdullah bin Mas`ud, may Allah be pleased with him, said to them, "If we tell you a Hadith, we will bring you proof of it from the Book of Allah. When the Muslim servants says, `Glory and praise be to Allah, there is no god worthy of worship except Allah, Allah is Most Great and blessed be Allah,' an angel takes these words and puts them under his wing, then he ascends with them to the heaven. He does not take them past any group of angels but they seek forgiveness for the one who said them, until he brings them before Allah, may He be glorified.'' Then `Abdullah, may Allah be pleased with him, recited:

﴿إِلَيْهِ يَصْعَدُ الْكَلِمُ الطَّيِّبُ وَالْعَمَلُ الصَّـلِحُ يَرْفَعُهُ﴾

(To Him ascend the good words, and the righteous deeds exalt it).'' Imam Ahmad recorded that An-Nu`man bin Bashir, may Allah be pleased with him, said, "The Messenger of Allah said:

«الَّذِينَ يَذْكُرُونَ اللهَ مِنْ جَلَالِ اللهِ مِنْ تَسْبِيحِهِ وَتَكْبِيرِهِ وَتَحْمِيدِهِ وَتَهْلِيلِهِ، يَتَعَاطَفْنَ حَوْلَ الْعَرْشِ لَهُنَّ دَوِيٌّ كَدَوِيِّ النَّحْلِ، يَذْكُرْنَ بِصَاحِبِهِنَّ، أَلَا يُحِبُّ أَحَدُكُمْ أَنْ لَا يَزَالَ لَهُ عِنْدَ اللهِ شَيْءٌ يُذَكِّرُ بِه»

(Those who remember Allah and glory Allah by saying, `Glory be to Allah, Allah is most Great, all praise is due to Allah and La ilaha illallah, these words go around the Throne buzzing like bees, mentioning those who said them. Would one of you not like to have something with Allah mentioning him)''This was also recorded by Ibn Majah.

﴿وَالْعَمَلُ الصَّـلِحُ يَرْفَعُهُ﴾

and the righteous deeds exalt it. Ali bin Abi Tلalhلah reported that Ibn Abbas, may Allah be pleased with him, said, The good word is the remembrance of Allah, may He be exalted, which is taken up to Allah, and the righteous deed is the performance of obligatory duties. Whoever remembers Allah when doing an obligatory duty, his deed carries his remembrance of Allah and takes it up to Allah, may He be exalted. Whoever remembers Allah and does not perform the obligatory duties, his words will be rejected, as will his deed.

Love and salaam (peace)

 (proud2bmom3 Muslim Moms-- Owner. 

EmmAlesh
by on Jan. 3, 2010 at 4:49 PM

JazakAllahu khair, sister Proud.  Thanks for your diligence:)


Emm Ali

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