A Novel Idea. Register non-gun owners
Subject: A Novel Idea
Vermont State Rep. Fred Maslack has read the Second Amendment to the U.S.
Constitution, as well as Vermont 's own Constitution very carefully, and
his strict interpretation of these documents is popping some eyeballs in New
England and elsewhere.
Maslack recently proposed a bill to register "non-gun-owners" and require
them to pay a $500 fee to the state.
Thus Vermont would become the first state to require a permit for the luxury of going about unarmed and assess a
fee of $500 for the privilege of not owning a gun
Maslack read the "militia" phrase of the Second Amendment as not only
affirming the right of the individual citizen to bear arms, but as a
clear
mandate to do so.
He believes that universal gun ownership was advocated by the Framers
of the Constitution as an antidote to a "monopoly of force" by
the government as well as criminals
Vermont 's constitution states explicitly that "the people have a right
to bear arms for the defense of themselves and the State" and those
persons
who are "conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms" shall be required
to "pay such equivalent." Clearly, says Maslack, Vermonters have a
constitutional obligation to arm themselves, so that they are capable of responding to "any situation that may arise."
Under the bill, adults who choose not to own a firearm would be required
to register their name, address, Social Security Number, and driver's
license number with the state.
"There is a legitimate government interest in knowing who is not prepared to defend the state should they be asked to do
so," Maslack says
Vermont already boasts a high rate of gun ownership along with the least
restrictive laws of any state ..
it's currently the only state that allows a citizen to carry a concealed firearm without a permit.
This combination of plenty of guns and few laws regulating them has resulted in a crime rate
that is the third lowest in the nation
"America is at that awkward stage.
It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
This makes sense!
There is no reason why gun owners should have to pay taxes to support police protection for people not wanting to own guns.
Let them contribute their fair share and pay their own way.
http://www.resistnet.com/profiles/blogs/a-novel-idea-register-nongun
Aren't non-gun owners already supporting police with their taxes?
Who the hell does Vermont think if about to invade and therefore, everybody needs to have guns and ammo at the ready! to defend them.
It's not Vermont, it's just some idiot in the state.
Dumb response to a real problem and a real issue.
"America is at that awkward stage.
It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
- we elect these dipshits? I'm embarrassed.
'Under the bill, adults who choose not to own a firearm would be required
to register their name, address, Social Security Number, and driver's
license number with the state.'
"There is a legitimate government interest in knowing who is not prepared to defend the state should they be asked to do
so," Maslack says
1.-this stuff is already on record, brainiac
2. If they are ASKED, that means they aren't REQUIRED to 'defend the state' . I'm sorry, but those of you who think we are going to change govt. by violent force and violent intimidation are lacking imagination, innovation, and....brains, quite frankly.
So, by your logic, if everyone was a gun owner, the police would become unnecessary? That would result in chaos and the complete disintegration of society. Anyone would be able to shoot anyone they wanted and claim that the other person was committing a crime against them, and there would be no police to mediate anything.
Also, if this makes gun ownership mandatory:
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
then I guess each person having an established religion is mandatory too, huh? Are the atheists just out of luck? And I guess we'll have to start having mandatory peaceable assemblies, too.
I think this state rep needs to reread the Bill of Rights. Perhaps he should wear his glasses this time.
Quoting MrsRStewart:This makes sense!
There is no reason why gun owners should have to pay taxes to support police protection for people not wanting to own guns.
Let them contribute their fair share and pay their own way.http://www.resistnet.com/profiles/blogs/a-novel-idea-register-nongun
If anyone could shoot anyone then no one would step out of line. It is the same logic as everyone having nuclear weapons, when anyone can fire them on anyone no one does it because they do not want to be fired upon. I personally think this might just be a better option to the idea of banning.
Quoting Mergath:
So, by your logic, if everyone was a gun owner, the police would become unnecessary? That would result in chaos and the complete disintegration of society. Anyone would be able to shoot anyone they wanted and claim that the other person was committing a crime against them, and there would be no police to mediate anything.
Also, if this makes gun ownership mandatory:
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
then I guess each person having an established religion is mandatory too, huh? Are the atheists just out of luck? And I guess we'll have to start having mandatory peaceable assemblies, too.
I think this state rep needs to reread the Bill of Rights. Perhaps he should wear his glasses this time.
Quoting MrsRStewart:
This makes sense!
There is no reason why gun owners should have to pay taxes to support police protection for people not wanting to own guns.
Let them contribute their fair share and pay their own way.http://www.resistnet.com/profiles/blogs/a-novel-idea-register-nongun
Oh my goodness this is the best idea i have heard in a long time.
I honestly believe that the more people that are armed the more crime will go down. I mean think about it. Amny of the morons that commit crimes will think twice about it. When thay walk in the bank they will might stop and think how many people in the building are going to be armed. What is their chance of escaping without getting shot. Right now criminals know what buildings are fair game and will give them no opposistion. Why do you think they choose gun free zones like schools and government buildings.
Thanks for posting this.
Quote:Oh my goodness this is the best idea i have heard in a long time.
I honestly believe that the more people that are armed the more crime will go down. I mean think about it. Amny of the morons that commit crimes will think twice about it. When thay walk in the bank they will might stop and think how many people in the building are going to be armed. What is their chance of escaping without getting shot. Right now criminals know what buildings are fair game and will give them no opposistion. Why do you think they choose gun free zones like schools and government buildings.
If you rob a bank, you're already walking into a situation with armed guards, so I don't think that one will change. Same with a government building.
Should school teachers be armed? There are already police assigned to most middle/high schools and they have weapons. I think anyone who enters a school with a gun and starts shooting has pretty much given up their life as it is - they don't think about consequences. But wait! With guns at the ready, say in every desk and office, the crazies would have more access, wouldn't they?
Registering non-gun owners would do zero to help this issue. All it's going to do is make the idiot who thought of it feel good.
It won't pass....not enough wing nuts in Vermont. But, you know, bat shit crazy people will do anything to get attention. Maybe Rep. Fred Maslack will get the scrutiny he is so deserving of and get voted out of office? Hmmmm............
Quoting sweetie00:so the only way to deter crime is with the threat of violence....??? How dumb.
What exactly do you think happens right now? You don't think the police are going to use their guns in order to take down a criminal?
I have heard many people say that an armed society is a polite society and i agree with them. Puts everyone on a level playing feild.
I just saw on the news gas prices will be going up...grrr
- MrsRStewart
on Nov. 6, 2009 at 5:54 PM