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 (PEOPLE.com) -- In a "20/20" interview airing Friday, Rihanna offers her graphic account of the fateful February 7 confrontation with then-boyfriend Chris Brown -- including the terrifying blankness that seemed to come over him as he assaulted her.

She said all she kept thinking was, "When is it going to stop? When is it going to stop? He had no soul in his eyes. Just blank. He was clearly blacked-out. There was no person when I looked at him."

The fight, she said, started when Brown received a text message from another woman while they were driving away from a Grammy Awards party.

"I caught him in a lie, and he wouldn't tell the truth. And I wouldn't drop it," Rihanna told Diane Sawyer in the interview, portions of which aired Friday morning on "Good Morning America."

"I couldn't take that he kept lying to me, and he couldn't take that I wouldn't drop it. ... It escalated into him being violent towards me. And it was ugly."

How ugly? "I was battered, I was bleeding, I was swollen in my face," she said.

Their love spelled danger

She felt trapped. "My next option was to get out of the car and walk, start walking in a gown and a bloody face," she said. "I didn't have a plan. That whole night was not part of my plan."

Rihanna believes now that the passionate love affair between the young couple -- she was 20 at the time, he was 19 -- was an unhealthy one.

"The more in love we became, the more dangerous we became for each other, equally dangerous," she said. "Because it was a bit of an obsession."

She also discusses how she eventually broke things off with Brown, and how she feels about him today.

"Love doesn't go away right away," she says. "He didn't accept that very well. Obviously he didn't want us to be apart. But I had to make a decision for me."

Does she hate Brown now? "No, I don't hate him at all," she said. "I actually love and care about him. I want him to do well, have a great career, have a great life and grow up. And just take this as something you had to go through to grow up and learn."

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Rihanna returned to Chris Brown after this incident.  Why do you think women return to abusive men?

Rihanna disclosed to Diane Sawyer on 20/20 that her father was abusive to her mother.  What can be done to stop the cycle of violence that some women and men find themselves in?

 

 





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Written by on Nov. 7, 2009 at 1:33 AM

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  • cowgirlsr2
  • by on Nov. 7, 2009 at 1:49 AM
  • Rihanna returned to Chris Brown after this incident.  Why do you think women return to abusive men?Generally because they are mentally beat down into believeing no one else will have them or they think they can change them.

    Rihanna disclosed to Diane Sawyer on 20/20 that her father was abusive to her mother.  What can be done to stop the cycle of violence that some women and men find themselves in?1st women have to respect themselves and learn to take back there independence. They have to get back there self - esteem and make it so that the cycle really does stop here.



  • mmtosam06
  • by on Nov. 7, 2009 at 1:54 AM
  • I agree with the pp because yes I once was emotionally/verbally & psychologically pushed into believing no one would want me til my stbx decided to get physical with me not once but twice it takes a woman 7-10 times to get beat before she finally ups & leaves yes thats the new statistics but it took 2x of stbx being physical with me that i refuse to put our (my) daughter through that i have  morals about that sorry 

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  • mmtosam06
  • by on Nov. 7, 2009 at 1:55 AM
  • im not saying the women who tend to stay til they are finally fed up dont have morals but a woman has got to be strong & really believe she will not tolerate that lifestyle anymore not for her sake but the sake of her kids 

    Photobucket stephanie/cloth diapering/full term bfing/extended harnessing mama

  • Proudbirthmom06
  • by on Nov. 7, 2009 at 2:00 AM
  • I am the daughter of an abuser. My father was highly abusive to my mother. I watched it for YEARS and some of the stuff I have seen him do to her would make you cringe. My sister and I also begged and pleaded with her to leave. And though she didn't leave until I was 12 and my sister was 14, she eventually did leave. I have had one man in my lifetime put his hands on me. I was 18 and he was 26-He choke slammed me to the wall and I kicked him as hard as I could between his legs. When he hit the floor I hit the door at a dead run to the neighboors and left. Right then and there I left. Other women don't. They sometimes think they can change the man but they can't do it. Ladies PLEASE PLEASE if you are being hurt by a spouse or partner GET OUT NOW!!!! 

  • Goodwoman614
  • by on Nov. 7, 2009 at 2:08 AM
  • Yes, and know that it really is never your fault.  Besides the obvious, there are a lot of subtle statements ppl make that lay the blame at a woman's feet.  Like, say, "you need to respect yourself," or "you just need to get some self-esteem."

    Just know that ppl who are clueless will make statements like these. 

    It is never the woman's fault when she is beaten by her partner. 

    Never.




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  • mmtosam06
  • by on Nov. 7, 2009 at 2:09 AM
  • AGREED

    Quoting Goodwoman614:

    Yes, and know that it really is never your fault.  Besides the obvious, there are a lot of subtle statements ppl make that lay the blame at a woman's feet.  Like, say, "you need to respect yourself," or "you just need to get some self-esteem."

    Just know that ppl who are clueless will make statements like these. 

    It is never the woman's fault when she is beaten by her partner. 

    Never.

     


     


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  • im23vaughn
  • by on Nov. 7, 2009 at 2:23 AM
  • I have been in an abusive relationship. I stayed because we had children. I am adopted to so I really wanted my kids to have their father in their life. I loved him and truly believe he was sorry. He would abuse me, but it wasn't  as horrific as rihanna's. Maybe a push, once a punch, and etc. Abuse starts out little. Each time it gets a little worse. Not enough to notice that it is getting worse until it is really bad.

    I finally left when I realize that he wouldn't change. I have also been in other abusive relationships, but I am quick to leave those. I am blessed that now I am in a relationship that is abuse free. No mental or emotional abuse. Priceless

  • stormcris
  • by on Nov. 7, 2009 at 3:58 AM
  • I have two thought trains going about people staying in abusive relationships.

    There are those women who get into an abusive relationship and stay because they are afraid of not being able to survive on their own. They are afraid of the husband taking the children and especially if he has made her into the bad guy to everyone else. She feels as if there is no way out safely for her and the children so she stay. This is especially true of emotionally abusive relationship that place so much control over the woman. She may really not have any way out because if she has done such an excellent acting job and he is the good as gold in public type there is still the stigma and the disbelief and the very real fear of not being able to make it out alive.

    Then there is another type who stays with an abuser because the person suddenly changed...these are mostly the emotional abuse types but sometimes can be physical. These types are usually onset by fear ...fear of losing his wife so he locks down control, or fear of not being what he expects to be. This type can actually be changed back but this is more like a call for help when they don't know how to ask, and many adults don't know how to ask for help.

    Whatever the case if the woman goes back she needs support and love and does not need to be told how bad it is because really she knows ...she may seem in denial but she knows. Saying things like you deserve better or he is no good for you does not work it only makes the situation worse and will probably get you axed as a friend.

    The only way is to break the cycle is to learn communication and start teaching people how to communicate and how to know themselves prior to relationships. It has to start during puberty and continue up through at least they graduate high school.

  • Merry74
  • by on Nov. 7, 2009 at 9:44 AM
  • We don't agree on much, but you are absolutely on target with this.

    Quoting Goodwoman614:

    Yes, and know that it really is never your fault.  Besides the obvious, there are a lot of subtle statements ppl make that lay the blame at a woman's feet.  Like, say, "you need to respect yourself," or "you just need to get some self-esteem."

    Just know that ppl who are clueless will make statements like these. 

    It is never the woman's fault when she is beaten by her partner. 

    Never.





  • Des10ed2b
  • by on Nov. 7, 2009 at 9:57 AM
  • its a tough situation because there are a lot of different factors.

    1) the thing with abuse is, that it isnt ALL the time. MOST the time the men are sweet and doting, which makes it all the harder to leave because the women can sit back and remember all the times that he was GOOD.

    2) a lot of women that stay in abusive relationships were abused as kids, which kind of puts them in the mind set that its just what they deserve. you grow accustomed to it . its like a big birthmark that you hate, you think is ugly, but you have had all your life so you just learn to deal with it.

    3) its a lot  harder when kids are involved, because women convince themselves that the men are great dads and would never hurt the kids, so they feel its more worth it for the kids sake.

    i am a proud mommy of 1 ornery 1 year old little boy and one very goofy 4 year old little girl, ive been married for 2 years, together for almost 5. fun loving, eco-friendly, creative,different strokes work for different folks, stay at home and work at home mommy!

    http://www.PerfectWorkForMoms.com    http://www.HealthySafeAndClean.com

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