Hasan Tried to Leave the Military

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  • Grannygoli
  on Nov. 7, 2009 at 9:38 PM

• There are a bunch of headlines in the beginning but then it goes into details regarding the tragedy at Ft. Hood.
  

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  • tericared
  on Nov. 7, 2009 at 9:43 PM

• I will look for the AP story of him having a lot  of trouble while stationed in Washington... Doesnt excuse what happened but if this man had been heard and helped I dont think he would have done what he did....

  

  
  

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  • stormcris
  on Nov. 7, 2009 at 9:45 PM

• While there was anti Muslim bias and it was most likely the tipping point people are ignoring one of the largest issue plaguing people such as this man. Psychiatrists who deal with PTSD and other highly traumatizing disorders are often, after dealing with it so long, highly unstable themselves. There was an experiment done one time where psychiatrist from all over the world were called for a convention or conference...it was called the convention of the dead or the dead convention or something like that I do not precisely remember. Anyway, each had a sit down conversation with each other on a one on one bases with the protocol that they could not discuss their line of work at all. Each person could only speak to another once. At the end they were given sheets for evaluation  of those they spoke with and the result was each psychiatrist believed that the other should be hospitalized. In many jobs there comes a time that person has to get out just to maintain their sanity. This in no way excuses what he has done but it does make clear the need for corporations and the military to learn to let people go before they are pushed over the edge. This can quite literally happen to anyone with enough stress.
  

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  • tericared
  on Nov. 7, 2009 at 9:47 PM

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  Quoting stormcris:
  
  

  While there was anti Muslim bias and it was most likely the tipping point people are ignoring one of the largest issue plaguing people such as this man. Psychiatrists who deal with PTSD and other highly traumatizing disorders are often, after dealing with it so long, highly unstable themselves. There was an experiment done one time where psychiatrist from all over the world were called for a convention or conference...it was called the convention of the dead or the dead convention or something like that I do not precisely remember. Anyway, each had a sit down conversation with each other on a one on one bases with the protocol that they could not discuss their line of work at all. Each person could only speak to another once. At the end they were given sheets for evaluation  of those they spoke with and the result was each psychiatrist believed that the other should be hospitalized. In many jobs there comes a time that person has to get out just to maintain their sanity. This in no way excuses what he has done but it does make clear the need for corporations and the military to learn to let people go before they are pushed over the edge. This can quite literally happen to anyone with enough stress.

  This is what the article  I read earlier was talking about..
  

  

  
  

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  • stormcris
  on Nov. 7, 2009 at 9:51 PM

• I haven't read the article but would be interested in reading it. We were discussing this over dinner earlier as my dad brought up the fact that he was a psychiatrist.
  

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  Quoting stormcris:
  
  

  While there was anti Muslim bias and it was most likely the tipping point people are ignoring one of the largest issue plaguing people such as this man. Psychiatrists who deal with PTSD and other highly traumatizing disorders are often, after dealing with it so long, highly unstable themselves. There was an experiment done one time where psychiatrist from all over the world were called for a convention or conference...it was called the convention of the dead or the dead convention or something like that I do not precisely remember. Anyway, each had a sit down conversation with each other on a one on one bases with the protocol that they could not discuss their line of work at all. Each person could only speak to another once. At the end they were given sheets for evaluation  of those they spoke with and the result was each psychiatrist believed that the other should be hospitalized. In many jobs there comes a time that person has to get out just to maintain their sanity. This in no way excuses what he has done but it does make clear the need for corporations and the military to learn to let people go before they are pushed over the edge. This can quite literally happen to anyone with enough stress.

   

  This is what the article  I read earlier was talking about..
  

  
  

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  • mistynights234
  on Nov. 7, 2009 at 10:02 PM

• This was a terrible tragedy.  Its so good to see that some are able to look over his beliefs and recognize that he was basically a ticking time bomb like so many others who have pushed to there limits in the service.   My brother in law still till this day has to sleep in his own bed as nightmares still haunt him from Viet Nam.  My own brother has alot of issues with Desert Storm.  Our soldiers and service members are pushed to there limits then most are left out to dry.  Its to bad that a tragedy like this may make the government actually say "hey we have a problem".

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  • Della529
  on Nov. 7, 2009 at 10:09 PM

• I agree, but it simply amazes me that so many are unwilling to believe this happens and prefer to believe it is soley because he was a Muslim, a dirty Arab, or a terrorist.
  

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  While there was anti Muslim bias and it was most likely the tipping point people are ignoring one of the largest issue plaguing people such as this man. Psychiatrists who deal with PTSD and other highly traumatizing disorders are often, after dealing with it so long, highly unstable themselves. There was an experiment done one time where psychiatrist from all over the world were called for a convention or conference...it was called the convention of the dead or the dead convention or something like that I do not precisely remember. Anyway, each had a sit down conversation with each other on a one on one bases with the protocol that they could not discuss their line of work at all. Each person could only speak to another once. At the end they were given sheets for evaluation  of those they spoke with and the result was each psychiatrist believed that the other should be hospitalized. In many jobs there comes a time that person has to get out just to maintain their sanity. This in no way excuses what he has done but it does make clear the need for corporations and the military to learn to let people go before they are pushed over the edge. This can quite literally happen to anyone with enough stress.
  

   

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  • Raintree
  on Nov. 7, 2009 at 10:15 PM

• Yes.

  Quoting mistynights234:
  
  

  This was a terrible tragedy.  Its so good to see that some are able to look over his beliefs and recognize that he was basically a ticking time bomb like so many others who have pushed to there limits in the service.   My brother in law still till this day has to sleep in his own bed as nightmares still haunt him from Viet Nam.  My own brother has alot of issues with Desert Storm.  Our soldiers and service members are pushed to there limits then most are left out to dry.  Its to bad that a tragedy like this may make the government actually say "hey we have a problem".

  
  

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  • amygray
  on Nov. 7, 2009 at 10:16 PM

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  I guess any excuse for this mass murderer is ok with you all..  He killed so many people, and ruined so many lives.. Give me a break..  How can anyone defend him??  Geeze.. 

  So him being teased or whatever makes him killing people ok???  Ok.. so how many people are harassed everyday who are not mass murders?  

  There is no excuse or reason for what he did, except he was a psychopath and a mass murderer..

  There are families who will NEVER be the same  could you look them in face and defend this man's actions to them?

  

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  • LancesMom
  on Nov. 7, 2009 at 10:20 PM

• I had a feeling about this....
  

   

  
  

  

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