Hot Topics (11/25): How young is too young for social-networking?

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Social networks and kids--How young is too young?

(CNN) -- Status updates, photo tagging and FarmVille aren't just for adults or even teenagers anymore.

Researchers say a growing number of children are flouting age requirements on sites such as Facebook and MySpace, or using social-networking sites designed just for them.

Facebook and MySpace require users to be at least 13. But they have no practical way to verify ages, and many young users pretend to be older when signing up.

Some scientists worry that pre-adolescent use of the sites, which some therapists have linked to Internet addiction among adults, could be damaging to children's relationships and brains.

But many other experts say there's not any solid research to back that up and that most children seem to use social-media sites in moderation, and in positive ways.

"For the most part, although there's so much press about all the bad things they're doing, much of what they do on these sites is stuff they would be doing anyway," said Kaveri Subrahmanyam, a professor of psychology at California State University-Los Angeles.

In two surveys reported this year by Pew Internet Research -- of 700 and 935 teens, respectively -- 38 percent of respondents ages 12 to 14 said they had an online profile of some sort.

Sixty-one percent of those in the study, ages 12 to 17, said they use social-networking sites to send messages to friends, and 42 percent said they do so every day.

The data in the study was from 2006, so it's not a stretch to assume those numbers are higher this year. Research on younger children is limited, but anecdotal evidence shows that many of them are also logging on.

"Of course they are," said Amanda Lenhart, a senior researcher at Pew and one of the report's authors. "They're using them because that's where their social world is. Because there's no effective way to age-verify ... children very quickly realize, 'I just say I'm 14 years old, and they'll let me use this.' "

Marc Bigbie, a software salesman who lives near Savannah, Georgia, said he has three children -- 14, 12 and 11 -- who all have accounts on at least one social-networking site.

His oldest daughter, then 11, was the first in the family to create an account, on MySpace. And it was without her parents' permission.

"It was kind of a negative thing at first," he said. "We kind of took it away from her. But, finally, we said, 'You can have it, but we need the password so we can be on there at any time.' "

Since then, all three of the kids have gotten Facebook accounts, with their parents even agreeing to fudge their ages.

Bigbie said he makes sure his children's accounts are set to provide as little personal information as possible, and they allow their activity to be seen only by confirmed friends. He and his wife monitor the pages to make sure they know the friends that their children have added.

He said the oldest daughter is the only one who uses the account almost every day, while the younger children log on briefly every now and then.

In the past couple of years, some scientists have voiced concerns that children are spending too much on these sites and that such online socializing could have lasting negative effects as they mature.

"My fear is that these technologies are infantilizing the brain into the state of small children who are attracted by buzzing noises and bright lights, who have a small attention span and who live for the moment," Susan Greenfield, an Oxford University neurocientist and director of Britain's Royal Institution, told London's Daily Mail in February.

"I often wonder whether real conversation in real time may eventually give way to these sanitized and easier [online] screen dialogues," she said.

Other scientists criticized Greenfield's comments, calling them speculation, not science.

Subrahmaynam said a study of high school students showed that in most cases, the people they interact with most often online are people they also socialize with in person.

Children today have spent their whole lives on computers, and their brains are better adapted than those of adults to integrate online activities with their offline lives, she said.

"You'll always have the small minority of kids who are not using it appropriately," she said. "I do think you're going to have a few people that are doing things that kids probably couldn't do with telephones a generation ago.

"But we don't want to get swept away by the general fear. It's here, and it's pretty harmless."

Many parents also worry that younger users of social sites could be targets for online predators. While there are some concerns that kids aren't mature enough to make good decisions about their privacy, Subrahmaynam and Lenhart said most are savvy enough by their early teens to know what, and who, to avoid. Younger children, they say, need more parental supervision.

Alternately, a growing number of networking sites are geared specifically toward younger users. Sites such as Disney's Club Penguin -- mainly a game site, but with limited social functions -- WebKinz and Whyville feature more restricted and supervised networking.

Such kids-oriented sites are "sort of a training ground" for future use of mainstream social networks, Lenhart said.

Children as young as 5 have accounts at KidSwirl, a kids' social-networking site patterned loosely on Facebook, said creator Toby Clark.

Clark said the average user spends about five minutes on the site per visit -- far less than Facebook's average of more than 20 minutes.

He said he limits the amount of time his two children, 9 and 6, spend on the site, but that any parent who bans their children from such sites isn't facing the facts.

"The reality is that we're a technology-driven generation," said Clark, who launched the site in February and said it has about 10,000 users. "That's not going to change."

So what long-term effect will social networking have on children? Scientists say it may be hard to know for sure.

"We've lost the control group," Subrahmanyam said. "How do you find a group of kids that are not using the computer?"

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How young is too young for social-networking?

What are your thoughts about children using social-networking sites?  What are the negatives and positives?

At what age would you (or did you) permit your kids to have accounts on Facebook, MySpace or other social-networking sites? 

[DThornton]

Social networking can be good. Most of my maternal side of the family is on Facebook. This gives everyone contact with relatives all over the country.

[bree79001]

I think social networks can be good and can do harm.It can help those who have social anxieties and helps children/adults with language and grammar skills.It can help stay in contact with friends who are long distance or family. I do think think some of it goes too far such as facebook..I have an account but can't stand it.I just don't think it's healthy to know every one's business, who they know, who I know, whats their status.It's all in your face,It's just crazy! I also think it  depends on how many hours you are on.Me? I am on too much.I think it's about getting the right balance of the real world and the computer. And parents need to monitor their kids!!! I don't know how many teens I have seen on Myspace with pictures that should not be put up...they are way too young.

[survivorinohio]

We got AOL when my younger two were still in school and I used every parental control available and was always in the room while they were online.

I dont think I would let them reach out socially until 15 or 16.

Of course myspace was not around then but AOL had some very inappropriate chat rooms.

My grandson plays on my puter now, he has a fisher price web device that takes him too the site that the character he chooses belongs to and all else is blocked.  I kina like that...   lol

[Wyldbutterfly]

It would be my opinion that,that is up to each individual parent.

For instance my 12 year old asked me for a Myspace. My answer was absolutely not. She's too immature to handle a Myspace page. For other parents of 12 year olds it may very well be different or a way to keep in touch with parents.

I've had a Myspace account for quite a few years and to be perfectly honest. I have come across some pages I find to be absolutely disgusting and revolting and are completely accessable to any child.

My 17 year old son has a Myspace. It is something that I monitor quite frequently. Password and all. At first he would get mad about me being "nosey" and into his business but it was for his safety. And luckily I had his password and such. He was 16 at the time some gay male contacted him with quite a filthy email via Myspace, saying he was cute and asking for more pictures. Not only that some of his friends on Myspace , I feel for. Their parents must not monitor their pages as I found sexually revealing pictures and such. It's a shame it really is.

[EireLass]

I don't think any kid needs it. That includes high school kids. The Internet has not helped kids learn social etiquette, it's taken it away. Who do they think they need to "network" with when they're 14? Shouldn't they be encouraged to have an actual social life? Like a real one?  

[Raintree]

35?

[sweetie00]

Quoting Raintree:

35?

[la_bella_vita]

I think at the age of 14. I wil know their passwords, monitor what they do and limit their time online. I see nothing wrong with them, my DH hates them. 

[Godgaveme4]

kids to have accounts on Facebook, MySpace or other social-networking sites? 

The rule in our house is 13.  We only let him have a facebook account and I am listed as his friend.  We also have complete control of his password.  All of his e-mails are forwarded to my husband and I.  We trust our son but do not always trust the choices of his friends.  If we see inappropriate things on his page we have them deleted.  And if a friend of his posts inappropriate things then we block him as a friend.  We do not do this without his knowledge.  We discuss things we see on his page.  We see this as life lessons.  Also he has to come talk to us before he sends a friend request or accepts a friend request.  We talk about what he kows about the person and such.

Now the reason we have alowed him to havethe page.  Many of the kids at his school have one.  Infact so do most of the parents.  I like to communication and building each other up that happens between the kids.  If someone is hurting they are supporting and praying for each other.  Many times it is used as a prayer chain.  I love it.

[tericared]

Quoting Raintree:

35?

For some maybe older....lol