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Save the SEALs

Posted by on Mar. 6, 2010 at 8:41 AM
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Friday, March 5, 2010 EDITORIAL: Save the SEALs THE WASHINGTON TIMES

Rep. Dan Burton, Indiana Republican, and Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, California Republican, yesterday renewed a call for charges to be dropped against three Navy SEALs charged with the unspeakable crime of roughing up a terrorist.

The charges grew from circumstances surrounding the capture of Ahmed Hashim Abed, a terrorist mastermind who organized the killing, burning and mutilating of four American contractors in Fallujah, Iraq, in March 2004. Insurgents strung up the blackened remains on a box-girder bridge over the Euphrates River, a grisly event that made global headlines. Abed was brought in by the SEALs in September 2009.

Abed told Iraqi authorities that Special Operations Petty Officer 2nd Class Matthew McCabe punched him in the gut. That sailor is charged with unlawfully striking Abed "in the midsection with his fist" and with lying to a Naval Criminal Investigative Service officer about the incident. Petty Officers Julio Huertas and Jonathan Keefe are charged with impeding the investigation and dereliction of duty in failing to safeguard a detainee. Trials for these two sailors are set to begin in Iraq in April, and Petty Officer 2nd Class McCabe will be tried in Norfolk in May.

Public support for the three SEALs has grown steadily since the case came to light. Petitions circulated by Mr. Burton and the newspaper Human Events have collected more than 150,000 signatures. Combined Facebook pages supporting the SEALs have over 350,000 fans. Betty Kilbride, one of the organizers of the Facebook support groups, announced with Father's Press Publishing that they would donate $4 per copy from the sale of her book, "Soul of American Warriors," to the Navy SEALs Defense Fund.

Little evidence has been produced to substantiate Abed's abuse claim, and a planned deposition of the detained terrorist was cancelled. Whether anything he says can be believed is highly doubtful anyway. Al Qaeda terrorists are trained to charge prisoner abuse whenever possible to create exactly this kind of situation.

For Abed, a U.S. military court simply would be another front in his personal jihad. Some in the SEAL community believe that dropping charges is the wrong approach because it would deny the defendants an opportunity to clear their names. The SEALs originally had been given the option of accepting administrative punishment but demanded a court martial for this reason. Jack Lynch, former president of the UDT-SEAL Association, who passed away in February, wrote that since a court martial has commenced, "it must be followed through." He believed that if the charges were dropped, "there would always be doubt in some folks' minds that we are hiding something.

This could be a media fiasco no one needs. There is no choice but to go forward." This argument would carry more weight if the SEALs could get a fair trial. But in the current politicized atmosphere and with an administration that goes out of its way to placate Muslim sentiment, it's not a sure thing that the accused would be vindicated. Having the charges dropped is preferable to seeing these young men railroaded to serve the political designs of the White House. That would be a fiasco indeed.

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EireLass
by Ruby Member on Mar. 6, 2010 at 9:13 AM

So if they kill him they get cheered, if they punch him they get jailed.  

tericared
by on Mar. 6, 2010 at 4:03 PM

So because they are SEALS they are above the law?

lyssa449
by Member on Mar. 6, 2010 at 4:45 PM


Quoting tericared:

So because they are SEALS they are above the law?

You are kidding right??  This man killed four men, burned them and skinned them, and then hung them from a bridge.  He got a punch in the gut and maybe a bloody lip.  Cry me a river.  Local cops would have done more, and been called heros. 

These men, were in a battlefield, capturing a terrorist.  The laws of that situation do NOT apply to everyday life.  Grow up people.

tericared
by on Mar. 6, 2010 at 4:56 PM

 I am not kidding....We as Americans should be above actions like this....What gives those SEALS the right to be physical with a prisoner?

tericared
by on Mar. 6, 2010 at 5:06 PM

 Maybe some should brush op on things like the 3rd treaty of the Geneva Convention....

The Third Geneva Convention, relative to the treatment of prisoners of war, is one of the four treaties of the Geneva Conventions. It was first adopted in 1929, but was significantly updated in 1949. It defines humanitarian protections for prisoners of war.

lyssa449
by Member on Mar. 6, 2010 at 5:16 PM


Quoting tericared:

 I am not kidding....We as Americans should be above actions like this....What gives those SEALS the right to be physical with a prisoner?


Really?  Do you honestly read what you actually type? Do you have any idea what the rules of engagement are for a combat theater? do you even understand what the law of war is?  This alleged prisoner is a known terrorist against humanity.  My husband has been over in Iraq for three years fighting for the safety and freedoms of the Iraq people.  So that they may have a decent life, and try and retain somewhat of their dignity.  So what you are saying is...that as long as this known terrorist who was not a prisoner at the time of the alleged incident was treated in a safe and polite manner, you are all for his abduction and ending his terrorist as long as no animals were hurt in the production of the war.  My husband has said many times, he is glad we went to Iraq and Afghanistan, rather than have these known terrorist running around this Great United States. But, perhaps we should let them come on over here and do their nasty deeds here.  Then when it's your family, or they violate the sanctity of your livingroom, and you start whining and complaing, perhaps then you will understand the real rules of engagement and the law of war.  But it is very apparent that as long as you are not directly involved, as long as nothing interferes with your latte drinkng soccer mom lifestyle, and you don't have to be the one in that position to make life and death decisions, then you are content with being a arm chair quarterback.    The simple thing that you have completely forgot, these terrorist are a threat against humanity as a whole, not just a threat on your television or your precious internet connection, that you can turn off when you are not interetested.

tericared
by on Mar. 6, 2010 at 5:40 PM

 Excuse me but you do not know one thing about me.....Why should the US military become the same as the ones we are capturing......All this ho-rah crap is for the birds....It is wrong to mistreat another human being......By the way why dont you spew your self righteous crap some where else.....

tericared
by on Mar. 6, 2010 at 5:43 PM

 Four Coronado-based Navy SEALs have been charged with beating an Iraqi detainee, who later died in Army custody at the infamous Abu Ghraib prison, and then lying about it, the Navy said yesterday.

The criminal charges are the first time the prisoner abuse scandal has touched the Pentagon's highly trained special operations forces – often cited as the military's best weapon in the war on terrorism.

The SEALs are accused of assault, aggravated assault, maltreatment of detainees, failure to report maltreatment, making false statements and soliciting others to commit a crime, said Cmdr. Jeff Bender, a Navy spokesman.

The sailors, whose names and ranks were not disclosed, were informed of the charges Thursday after an investigation by the Naval Criminal Investigation Service.

The prisoner, Manadel al-Jamadi, died Nov. 4, soon after he arrived at Abu Ghraib, outside Baghdad. He apparently is the dead Iraqi in a photo showing two Army MPs flashing thumbs-up signs over a body, according to news reports. The SEALs are not charged in his death.

"The Navy takes all allegations of abuse seriously and will conduct appropriate review of all available evidence involved in this case," said Bender, spokesman for the Naval Special Warfare Command in Coronado, which includes the SEALs.

Military sources said charges against other SEALs are possible, while the Army is expected to complete an investigation into reports of more Iraqi prisoner abuse by special operations forces.

http://legacy.signonsandiego.com/news/world/iraq/20040904-9999-1n4abuse.html

lyssa449
by Member on Mar. 6, 2010 at 5:51 PM


Quoting tericared:

 Four Coronado-based Navy SEALs have been charged with beating an Iraqi detainee, who later died in Army custody at the infamous Abu Ghraib prison, and then lying about it, the Navy said yesterday.

The criminal charges are the first time the prisoner abuse scandal has touched the Pentagon's highly trained special operations forces – often cited as the military's best weapon in the war on terrorism.

The SEALs are accused of assault, aggravated assault, maltreatment of detainees, failure to report maltreatment, making false statements and soliciting others to commit a crime, said Cmdr. Jeff Bender, a Navy spokesman.

The sailors, whose names and ranks were not disclosed, were informed of the charges Thursday after an investigation by the Naval Criminal Investigation Service.

The prisoner, Manadel al-Jamadi, died Nov. 4, soon after he arrived at Abu Ghraib, outside Baghdad. He apparently is the dead Iraqi in a photo showing two Army MPs flashing thumbs-up signs over a body, according to news reports. The SEALs are not charged in his death.

"The Navy takes all allegations of abuse seriously and will conduct appropriate review of all available evidence involved in this case," said Bender, spokesman for the Naval Special Warfare Command in Coronado, which includes the SEALs.

Military sources said charges against other SEALs are possible, while the Army is expected to complete an investigation into reports of more Iraqi prisoner abuse by special operations forces.

http://legacy.signonsandiego.com/news/world/iraq/20040904-9999-1n4abuse.html

Different arguement, honey.

tericared
by on Mar. 6, 2010 at 5:54 PM

 duh any one who can read can see that.......We Americans think we are better than everyone else it is disgusting.....There are more stories of us being just like them...I think I will post them after I eat....

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