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I am a Holocaust survivor

Posted by on Jun. 27, 2010 at 2:52 AM
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After all I am a Proper Zionist Jew
by Gilad Atzmon

http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/after-all-i-am-a-proper-zionist-jew-by-gilad-atzmon.html


I am a Holocaust survivor

Yes, I am a survivor, for I have managed to survive all the scary accounts of the Holocaust: the one about the soap (1), the one about the lamp shades, the one about the camps, the mass shooting, the one about the gas (2) and the one about the death march (3). I just managed to survive them all.

In spite of all these fear inflicting stories, that were purposely installed in my soul since I opened my eyes for the first time, I have become a functional and even a successful human being. I somehow survived the horror against all odds. I even manage to love my neighbour. In spite of all these fearful, traumatic indoctrination I miraculously managed to master my cheering alto saxophone rather than the sobbing violin.

In fact, I have already decided that in case the Queen, or any other member of the Royal Family should ever consider to make me into a `Sir' for my bebop achievements, or even for facing Zionist barbarism with my bare pen, I will immediately change my surname from Atzmon to Vive, just to become the first and only Sir Vive.
I am also totally against Holocaust denial

I clearly resent those who deny the genocides that are taking place in the name of the Holocaust. Palestine is one example, Iraq is another and the one that is set for Iran, is probably too scary to contemplate.

The Holocaust is a relatively new religion (4). It lacks mercy or compassion, instead it promises revenge through retribution. For its followers, it is somehow liberating because it allows them to punish whoever they like as long they gain some pleasure. This may explain why the Israelis ended up punishing the Palestinians for crimes that were committed by Europeans. It is rather clear that the newly emerging religion is not just about `eye for an eye'; it is actually an eye for thousands and thousands of eyes.

A month ago, while visiting in Auschwitz, Israeli defence minister Ehud Barak left a note in the official visitors book: `a strong Israel is both the comfort and the revenge'(5). No one could summarise the aspiration of the religion any better. The Holocaust religion doesn't offer redemption. It is a crude violent manifestation of sheer collective brutality. It cannot resolve anything, for aggression can only lead to more and more aggression.

In the Holocaust religion there is neither room for peace or grace. Take it from Barak, revenge is where they find comfort.
To deny the danger posed by the Holocaust religion and its followers is to be complicit in a growing crime against humanity and against every possible human value.

I am also in total support of the Jewish National Project
Some believe that after 2000 years of `phantasmic Diaspora' Jews are indeed entitled to an imaginary `national home land of their own'. The Zionists apparently meant it sincerely. The Jewish state is now realistic enough to have turned the entire Middle East into a ticking bomb.

Reviewing the Israeli record of crimes against humanity in the last six decades doesn't leave much room for speculation. We are dealing here with a pathological sinister society. Hence, as much as some of us may agree that Jews should enjoy a hypothetical right for a land of their own, planet Earth is certainly not the ideal location for such an affair.

Hence, I would urge NASA to join in and to make a special effort to find a suitable alternative planet for the Zionist homeland in outer space or even in another galaxy. The Galactic Zionist project would signify the immediate move from `promised land' to `promised planet'.

I would enthusiastically stress that rather than searching for `a land with no people for a people with no land', what we really want is a `lonely planet'. It can even be a `desert' for they claim to know how to make the desert bloom. In a planet of their own the galactic Zionists wouldn't need to oppress anyone, they wouldn't ethnically cleanse either, they wouldn't have to lock the indigenous people in concentration camps, for there won't be any indigenous people around to abuse, starve, murder and cleanse. They wouldn't have to pour white phosphorous over their neighbours for there won't be any neighbours. I would highly recommend NASA to search for a planet with very low gravity just to make it light for people to wander around. After all, we want the new galactic Zionists to enjoy their futuristic project as much as the Palestinians and many others may enjoy their absence.

So here I am, a proper Jew after all: I am a survivor, I oppose Holocaust denial, I support the Jewish national aspiration. Even the chief Rabbi of Britain cannot ask for more than that.


(1) Acknowledged recently to be a `myth' by the Israeli holocaust museum Yad Vashem
(2) A historical fact protected by European Law.
(3) A slightly confusing narrative. If the Nazis were interested in annihilating the entire European Jewish population as suggested by the orthodox Zionist holocaust narrative, then it is rather ambiguous as to just what led them to march what was left of European Jewry, into their crumbling Nazi fatherland at a time when it was clear that they were losing the war. The two narratives i.e. `annihilation' and `death march', seem to oppose each other. The issue deserves further elaboration. I would just suggest that the reasonable answers I have come across may severely damage the Zionist holocaust narrative.
(4) The Israeli Philosophy professor Yeshayahu Leibowitz was probably the first to define the holocaust as the `new Jewish religion'.
(5)
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3790707,00.html

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tericared
by on Jun. 27, 2010 at 2:55 AM

 I clearly resent those who deny the genocides that are taking place in the name of the Holocaust. Palestine is one example, Iraq is another and the one that is set for Iran, is probably too scary to contemplate.

muslimah
by on Jun. 27, 2010 at 3:12 AM


Quoting tericared:

 I clearly resent those who deny the genocides that are taking place in the name of the Holocaust. Palestine is one example, Iraq is another and the one that is set for Iran, is probably too scary to contemplate.

This is one of statements that he really hits home on as israel is guilty of using White Phosphorus on civilians which it is a war crime to use White Phosphorus and a war crime to attack civilians.
They wouldn't have to pour white phosphorous over their neighbours for there won't be any neighbours.

muslimah
by on Jun. 28, 2010 at 12:09 AM
tericared
by on Jun. 28, 2010 at 1:05 AM

 

Quoting muslimah:

 I love that movie....Wow that photo is haunting...

muslimah
by on Jun. 28, 2010 at 7:04 AM


Quoting tericared:

 

Quoting muslimah:

 I love that movie....Wow that photo is haunting...

It was a really good moving, very moving and sad. Sadly the comparison is of what took place in Europe as portrayed in that movie does not fall too much short of what has happened to Palestine.

The way the Jews were singled out, evicted, and sent to camps many of them losing their lives, being, beaten, and men and children having to watch their mothers,wives, and sisters being raped in the process is exactly what happened and still 62 years later happening in Palestine.

The only difference is the Zionist/israelis have not yet put the Palestinians in ovens.

Just as the picture looks that is pretty much how Palestine looked when the Zionist came through.

muslimah
by on Jun. 28, 2010 at 3:04 PM

bump

Clairwil
by Ruby Member on Jun. 28, 2010 at 5:11 PM
Quoting muslimah:

I have managed to survive all the scary accounts of the Holocaust: the one about the soap (1)


(1) Acknowledged recently to be a `myth' by the Israeli holocaust museum Yad Vashem

For someone who claims to be against holocaust denial, your summary above leaves a foul taste in the mouth.

Yes, there were scare stories of soap being made from human corpses on a mass-produced basis.  Those particular stories were originally spread BY THE NAZIS.  Not by Jews to gain sympathy.

Which doesn't mean all stories about soap being made from the corpses of Jews are false.

On the contrary, it is fairly well documented that this did happen, on an experimental basis to test how feasable it would be to later do it on a mass-produced basis.  And that at least one bar of said soap did get used by a Nazi to clean himself.


I know you're outraged by the atrocities in Palestine.  But you're not helping your cause by this.  Cheapening the Holocaust cheapens you.   You can attack 'Zionists' for using it as a moral cludgel to hit people over the head with; without cheapening it.

muslimah
by on Jun. 28, 2010 at 5:25 PM

 

Quoting Clairwil:

Quoting muslimah:

I have managed to survive all the scary accounts of the Holocaust: the one about the soap (1)


(1) Acknowledged recently to be a `myth' by the Israeli holocaust museum Yad Vashem

For someone who claims to be against holocaust denial, your summary above leaves a foul taste in the mouth.

Yes, there were scare stories of soap being made from human corpses on a mass-produced basis.  Those particular stories were originally spread BY THE NAZIS.  Not by Jews to gain sympathy.

Which doesn't mean all stories about soap being made from the corpses of Jews are false.

On the contrary, it is fairly well documented that this did happen, on an experimental basis to test how feasable it would be to later do it on a mass-produced basis.  And that at least one bar of said soap did get used by a Nazi to clean himself.

 

I know you're outraged by the atrocities in Palestine.  But you're not helping your cause by this.  Cheapening the Holocaust cheapens you.   You can attack 'Zionists' for using it as a moral cludgel to hit people over the head with; without cheapening it.

 

I'm not the one who wrote it as I was not there.

 Gilad Atzmon wrote it. I interpret it as him speaking of how the holocaust is always thrown around as an excuse to occupy Palestine and to evict hundreds of thousands of Palestinians to make up for what has happened to the holocaust survivors. It is Palestine and the people of Palestine who have been left to pay the price and many do believe that the first holocaust of Europe does indeed justify the second holocaust of Palestine.

And what do you mean " Helping your cause" ? I'm not begging for help from anyone in the name of any cause. I state what I know those who believe it do, those who don't, don't.

ecagle
by Kegel on Jun. 28, 2010 at 5:29 PM

 

Quoting Clairwil:

Quoting muslimah:

I have managed to survive all the scary accounts of the Holocaust: the one about the soap (1)


(1) Acknowledged recently to be a `myth' by the Israeli holocaust museum Yad Vashem

For someone who claims to be against holocaust denial, your summary above leaves a foul taste in the mouth.

Yes, there were scare stories of soap being made from human corpses on a mass-produced basis.  Those particular stories were originally spread BY THE NAZIS.  Not by Jews to gain sympathy.

Which doesn't mean all stories about soap being made from the corpses of Jews are false.

On the contrary, it is fairly well documented that this did happen, on an experimental basis to test how feasable it would be to later do it on a mass-produced basis.  And that at least one bar of said soap did get used by a Nazi to clean himself.

 

I know you're outraged by the atrocities in Palestine.  But you're not helping your cause by this.  Cheapening the Holocaust cheapens you.   You can attack 'Zionists' for using it as a moral cludgel to hit people over the head with; without cheapening it.

 

 You do realize this comes from the blog of  Jewish person....correct? 

I also am wondering about the soap claim....from either direction.  How is it even possible to make soup from human remains? (just wondering....I haven't read enough to say if it's fact or fiction)

Clairwil
by Ruby Member on Jun. 28, 2010 at 6:28 PM
Quoting muslimah:
Quoting Clairwil:

I know you're outraged by the atrocities in Palestine.  But you're not helping your cause by this.

I'm not the one who wrote it as I was not there.

You posted it without comment.  As you're well aware, if you post an article without comment, people will assume the reason you posted it is because you agree with what the article says.

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