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the People's Welfare

Posted by on Aug. 31, 2010 at 1:42 AM
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Record number in government anti-poverty programs

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Close to 10 million receive unemployment insurance, nearly four times the number from 2007. Benefits have been extended by Congress eight times beyond the basic 26-week program.
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By Paul Sakuma, AP
Close to 10 million receive unemployment insurance, nearly four times the number from 2007. Benefits have been extended by Congress eight times beyond the basic 26-week program.
 COSTS RISE WITH CASELOADS
By Richard Wolf, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON - Government anti-poverty programs that have grown to meet the needs of recession victims now serve a record one in six Americans and are continuing to expand.

More than 50 million Americans are on Medicaid, the federal-state program aimed principally at the poor, a survey of state data by USA TODAY shows. That's up at least 17% since the recession began in December 2007.


"Virtually every Medicaid director in the country would say that their current enrollment is the highest on record," says Vernon Smith of Health Management Associates, which surveys states for Kaiser Family Foundation.

The program has grown even before the new health care law adds about 16 million people, beginning in 2014. That has strained doctors. "Private physicians are already indicating that they're at their limit," says Dan Hawkins of the National Association of Community Health Centers.

More than 40 million people get food stamps, an increase of nearly 50% during the economic downturn, according to government data through May. The program has grown steadily for three years.

Caseloads have risen as more people become eligible. The economic stimulus law signed by President Obama last year also boosted benefits.

"This program has proven to be incredibly responsive and effective," says Ellin Vollinger of the Food Research and Action Center.

Close to 10 million receive unemployment insurance, nearly four times the number from 2007. Benefits have been extended by Congress eight times beyond the basic 26-week program, enabling the long-term unemployed to get up to 99 weeks of benefits. Caseloads peaked at nearly 12 million in January - "the highest numbers on record," says Christine Riordan of the National Employment Law Project, which advocates for low-wage workers.

More than 4.4 million people are on welfare, an 18% increase during the recession. The program has grown slower than others, causing Brookings Institution expert Ron Haskins to question its effectiveness in the recession.

As caseloads for all the programs have soared, so have costs. The federal price tag for Medicaid has jumped 36% in two years, to $273 billion. Jobless benefits have soared from $43 billion to $160 billion. The food stamps program has risen 80%, to $70 billion. Welfare is up 24%, to $22 billion. Taken together, they cost more than Medicare.


The steady climb in safety-net program caseloads and costs has come as a result of two factors: The recession has boosted the number who qualify under existing rules. And the White House, Congress and states have expanded eligibility and benefits.

Conservatives fear expanded safety-net programs won't contract after the economy recovers. "They're much harder to unwind in the long term," says Michael Tanner of the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank.

Other anti-poverty experts say the record caseloads are a necessary response to economic hardship. "We should be there to support people when the economy can't," says LaDonna Pavetti of the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a liberal-leaning think tank.

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Gretchen2876
by Silver Member on Aug. 31, 2010 at 7:35 AM

Well, this does make sense, condering how high unemployment is...

Raintree
by Ruby Member on Aug. 31, 2010 at 8:00 AM

Yeah, it does.

Quoting Gretchen2876:

Well, this does make sense, condering how high unemployment is...


tericared
by on Aug. 31, 2010 at 8:03 AM

 

Quoting Raintree:

Yeah, it does.

Quoting Gretchen2876:

Well, this does make sense, condering how high unemployment is...


 yep, and I am curious as to the people { numbers } on Medicaid...Is it full Medicaid or medically needy like my oldest? There is a monthly deductible, before it kicks in, hers is 877.00 per month.....So she really doesnt have any medical help...

Gretchen2876
by Silver Member on Aug. 31, 2010 at 8:09 AM


Quoting tericared:

 

Quoting Raintree:

Yeah, it does.

Quoting Gretchen2876:

Well, this does make sense, condering how high unemployment is...


 yep, and I am curious as to the people { numbers } on Medicaid...Is it full Medicaid or medically needy like my oldest? There is a monthly deductible, before it kicks in, hers is 877.00 per month.....So she really doesnt have any medical help...

My children are on Medicaid. When my husband lost his job, last February, we lost our insurance too. His new job, so far, does not offer medical. Our children have to be covered, until we can figure out how to purchase either insurance, or a health savings account. We're still trying to weigh through which would be better for our family.

The way I see it, isn't necessarily the way you see it. Or the way it is, or ought to be. What's more important, is that we're all looking for it, and a way to see it.


Desi DeNardo (via Starbucks coffee cup)

MrsRStewart
by Bronze Member on Aug. 31, 2010 at 8:11 AM

Funny how government is always the answer.  People will never be ale to figure anything out without the government (or mommy) in the the liberal world.  What a way to live.  How did people ever make it before welfare?

tericared
by on Aug. 31, 2010 at 8:15 AM

 

Quoting Gretchen2876:

 

Quoting tericared:

 

Quoting Raintree:

Yeah, it does.

Quoting Gretchen2876:

Well, this does make sense, condering how high unemployment is...


 yep, and I am curious as to the people { numbers } on Medicaid...Is it full Medicaid or medically needy like my oldest? There is a monthly deductible, before it kicks in, hers is 877.00 per month.....So she really doesnt have any medical help...

My children are on Medicaid. When my husband lost his job, last February, we lost our insurance too. His new job, so far, does not offer medical. Our children have to be covered, until we can figure out how to purchase either insurance, or a health savings account. We're still trying to weigh through which would be better for our family.

 This place is amazing for dental help.....So far we have saved over 800 bucks on my dd teeth....they also have vision and drug plans...It isnt insurance it is a discount plan...It really works...

http://www.dentalplans.com/index.asp

Gretchen2876
by Silver Member on Aug. 31, 2010 at 8:16 AM


Quoting MrsRStewart:

Funny how government is always the answer.  People will never be ale to figure anything out without the government (or mommy) in the the liberal world.  What a way to live.  How did people ever make it before welfare?

Do you honestly believe that "Liberals" are the only people accepting Government assistance? Before these programs were offered, neighbors and families helped eachother out, in a pinch. Things weren't quite as expensive and money driven back in the day either.

The way I see it, isn't necessarily the way you see it. Or the way it is, or ought to be. What's more important, is that we're all looking for it, and a way to see it.


Desi DeNardo (via Starbucks coffee cup)

crazynut
by Member on Aug. 31, 2010 at 8:16 AM
877 a month..... That's not Medicaid or care whatever it is..... That a rip off... What state are you in???? Medicaid is Heath insurance program, based on income for children and families!! R u sure that's not a CHIPs program??


Quoting tericared:

 


Quoting Raintree:


Yeah, it does.


Quoting Gretchen2876:


Well, this does make sense, condering how high unemployment is...




 yep, and I am curious as to the people { numbers } on Medicaid...Is it full Medicaid or medically needy like my oldest? There is a monthly deductible, before it kicks in, hers is 877.00 per month.....So she really doesnt have any medical help...


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crazynut
by Member on Aug. 31, 2010 at 8:21 AM
Ok really.... I'm not a fan of welfare.... But when people need, then it should be there.... The problem with is it's a way out of some.... Some families truely are working there buts off and get nothing.... They struggle to put food on the table, but there tring..... These are the ones who need you.
Let's hope you never need it!!


Quoting MrsRStewart:

Funny how government is always the answer.  People will never be ale to figure anything out without the government (or mommy) in the the liberal world.  What a way to live.  How did people ever make it before welfare?


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tericared
by on Aug. 31, 2010 at 8:25 AM

 

Quoting crazynut:

877 a month..... That's not Medicaid or care whatever it is..... That a rip off... What state are you in???? Medicaid is Heath insurance program, based on income for children and families!! R u sure that's not a CHIPs program??


Quoting tericared:

 


Quoting Raintree:


Yeah, it does.


Quoting Gretchen2876:


Well, this does make sense, condering how high unemployment is...




 yep, and I am curious as to the people { numbers } on Medicaid...Is it full Medicaid or medically needy like my oldest? There is a monthly deductible, before it kicks in, hers is 877.00 per month.....So she really doesnt have any medical help...


 I am sure I have had Medicaid for my girls for a while now....It is ridiculous...

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