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food stamps wic and other forms of pa

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with all the concern on here about trying to govern the activities of those on pa i think i came up with an idea. if you cant afford everything on your own heres what you should be allowed and not allowed to do.

no pets.

dont ever go out to eat to the movies or any other form of entertainment.

only the essential and most basic of foods. no internet of computers.

no cable or tv even.

if you have any of these and are on pa get rid of them.

you dont need new clothes there are places you can go that they will give you free second hand clothes you can even get underwear.

 housing should consist of only enoug roomm for a bedroom for parents and one each for each gender of children you have and only one bathroom.

only buy the cheapest toiletries you can find and the cheapest houshold supplies available.

and although you now have absolutly nothing to do but go to work keep house and raise your kids dont have sex either that might inadvetantly lead to another child.

dont spend money on anything other than food essential bills and medical care.

you might lower your water bill by only flushing after a #2 and sharing bathwater.

you could keep your light bill down by only being awake during daylight hours.

only own one car per family unless you live in an area where there is access to public transportation then you dont need one.

or we could always make those who are on pa live in shelter situations so that every penny they make can be used to get off pa and we can monitor their every breath

does this sound llike a stupid invasion of privacy?

does anybody have the right to tell others to live like this?

what would happen to these people on pa if they were forces to live like this?

I bring this up because some people feel that they have the right to regulate the lives of those on pa. I understand that there are those that abuse the system and there always will be. but those who are responsible and use their pa the way it is intended greatly outnumber those who dont. you dont see those people because they vall attention to themselves.

SO STOP TREATING ALL OF US WHO NEED A LITTLE EXTRA HELP TO GET BY LIKE WELFARE BUMS! WITH THE CURRENT STATE OF THE ECONOMY YOU COULD EASILY BE ONE OF US ANYTIME!

by on Feb. 14, 2012 at 11:46 PM
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amgillis88
by Member on Feb. 19, 2012 at 8:05 PM
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Thinking I shouldn't be able to support my child? What does that even mean? Of course I should be able to support her.

And I'm really starting to believe that you are lacking in brain cells. It's not *just* that child care costs money. It's that the cost of childcare would eat all the money I make at a job, making the whole thing fruitless. You are so preoccupied by being upset that I don't work that you can't even see what is being said. No one is saying that I 'expect' others to pay for me. I meet the guidlines to recieve assistance. And even with a part time job I'd still meet them. And before you respond, can you please acknowledge ALL the parts of my post rather than replying with knee jerk reactions that have nothing to do with what I've actually said?

I'll make it easier for you:

1. What about the time spent away from studying for the measly dollars I'd get a month.

2. What about the fact that child care alone would cost as much or more than my entire weekly check.

3. What about the fact that I would still qualify for assistance even after getting a job.

4. Is it not wiser to spend that valuable time on studying so that I can recieve a higher paying job in the end than to slave away at a low paying job that wouldn't benefit my situation at all?


Quoting Tanya93:

There is nothing to get over.


Thinking you shouldn't be able to support a child isn't wrong.   It is actually what a responsible would parent would do.


Thinking you shouldn't wotk because it would cost day care is selfish


amgillis88
by Member on Feb. 19, 2012 at 8:08 PM
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Ok, so you're upset about the things I've bought with my own money?

Once again, even the things PA recipients buy with their own funds are ripe for scrutiny.

Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

Yes, if I have to sacrifice TO SUPPORT YOUR CHILDREN, then you have to sacrifice, as well. I was crystal clear that I am not advocating people on PA NEVER go out to eat, go to the movies, have anything fun or not entirely essential, but you keep jerkinhg that knee and presenting yourself as a self centered, entitled child who insists she deserves to be provided a Porche even if it means the providers have to drive around in a Pinto.


Quoting amgillis88:

lol. So I have to sacrifice because you do? Okay.

I sacrifice plenty by going to school and spending precious time away from my daughter. At this point, the measly dollars I would make every month working a crappy part time job is not worth the time spent away from school and my daughter. Sorry if that bothers you.


Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

If I am having to sacrifice to provide for your children, I expect you to do the same. Im sorry if you can't wrap your entitlement complex around that.





Quoting amgillis88:

Because what people buy with their OWN money is no one's business but theirs.

I am appalled that people believe that what others buy WITH government funds is their business and what they buy with their OWN MONEY is *also* their business. I guess if you recieve PA then what you pay for with your own funds is also up for debate. Some of you should be ashamed. Thank God none of the warped opinions on here affect me in the least.



Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

Are there people who take it to the extteme in wanting to control the lives of those on PA? Sure. But OP, you are the opposite extreme. if someone on PA has cable and internet, why shouldn't we question that? If the go out to eat and a movie for an occasional treat, fine, but if do so all the time, why shouldnt we question it? Most of us make sacrifices - why shouldnt we question someone on PA who refuses to do so?







LoveMyBoyK
by Ruby Member on Feb. 19, 2012 at 8:09 PM
I dont think food stamps shoukd be limites, other than not being allowed to be used out of state or at establishments like bars, casinos, strip joints, etc... But yes, i think that being on PA and having a top line smartphone with unlimited everything service, top tier cable/internet service, taking the kids to Chucky Cheese and movies monthly, and going out to eat several times a week ABSOLUTELY should be regulated.


Quoting december911:

I am not on pa and hope we are never in a situation to need it. I know some abuse it, but I don't agree with regulating what they can and cannot use it for. I don't agree with schools governing what parents pack for lunch either. ESP since the school lunches aren't really all that healthy! I think rather than wasting time and money reinventing the pa system, they should spend it to hire investigatirs to visit this on pa to catch the abusers..it creates jobs and gets some to stop screwing the system!

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amgillis88
by Member on Feb. 19, 2012 at 8:14 PM

This just doesn't make any sense. So the only thing that should  be regulated is what people buy with their own money? You can't be serious.

Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

I dont think food stamps shoukd be limites, other than not being allowed to be used out of state or at establishments like bars, casinos, strip joints, etc... But yes, i think that being on PA and having a top line smartphone with unlimited everything service, top tier cable/internet service, taking the kids to Chucky Cheese and movies monthly, and going out to eat several times a week ABSOLUTELY should be regulated.


Quoting december911:

I am not on pa and hope we are never in a situation to need it. I know some abuse it, but I don't agree with regulating what they can and cannot use it for. I don't agree with schools governing what parents pack for lunch either. ESP since the school lunches aren't really all that healthy! I think rather than wasting time and money reinventing the pa system, they should spend it to hire investigatirs to visit this on pa to catch the abusers..it creates jobs and gets some to stop screwing the system!


Tanya93
by on Feb. 19, 2012 at 8:14 PM
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If you cannot afford your life and kids, why do you deserve  stuff people who are actually working can't afford.

uQuoting amgillis88:

Ok, so you're upset about the things I've bought with my own money?

Once again, even the things PA recipients buy with their own funds are ripe for scrutiny.

Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

Yes, if I have to sacrifice TO SUPPORT YOUR CHILDREN, then you have to sacrifice, as well. I was crystal clear that I am not advocating people on PA NEVER go out to eat, go to the movies, have anything fun or not entirely essential, but you keep jerkinhg that knee and presenting yourself as a self centered, entitled child who insists she deserves to be provided a Porche even if it means the providers have to drive around in a Pinto.


Quoting amgillis88:

lol. So I have to sacrifice because you do? Okay.

I sacrifice plenty by going to school and spending precious time away from my daughter. At this point, the measly dollars I would make every month working a crappy part time job is not worth the time spent away from school and my daughter. Sorry if that bothers you.


Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

If I am having to sacrifice to provide for your children, I expect you to do the same. Im sorry if you can't wrap your entitlement complex around that.





Quoting amgillis88:

Because what people buy with their OWN money is no one's business but theirs.

I am appalled that people believe that what others buy WITH government funds is their business and what they buy with their OWN MONEY is *also* their business. I guess if you recieve PA then what you pay for with your own funds is also up for debate. Some of you should be ashamed. Thank God none of the warped opinions on here affect me in the least.



Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

Are there people who take it to the extteme in wanting to control the lives of those on PA? Sure. But OP, you are the opposite extreme. if someone on PA has cable and internet, why shouldn't we question that? If the go out to eat and a movie for an occasional treat, fine, but if do so all the time, why shouldnt we question it? Most of us make sacrifices - why shouldnt we question someone on PA who refuses to do so?








LoveMyBoyK
by Ruby Member on Feb. 19, 2012 at 8:16 PM
If the only reason you have what you ridicuously term as "your own money" is because YOUR debt and YOUR obligations are NOT being met by YOU using "your own money", you betcha.


Quoting amgillis88:

This just doesn't make any sense. So the only thing that should  be regulated is what people buy with their own money? You can't be serious.


Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

I dont think food stamps shoukd be limites, other than not being allowed to be used out of state or at establishments like bars, casinos, strip joints, etc... But yes, i think that being on PA and having a top line smartphone with unlimited everything service, top tier cable/internet service, taking the kids to Chucky Cheese and movies monthly, and going out to eat several times a week ABSOLUTELY should be regulated.





Quoting december911:

I am not on pa and hope we are never in a situation to need it. I know some abuse it, but I don't agree with regulating what they can and cannot use it for. I don't agree with schools governing what parents pack for lunch either. ESP since the school lunches aren't really all that healthy! I think rather than wasting time and money reinventing the pa system, they should spend it to hire investigatirs to visit this on pa to catch the abusers..it creates jobs and gets some to stop screwing the system!




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LoveMyBoyK
by Ruby Member on Feb. 19, 2012 at 8:19 PM
Because clearly she has no moral issues with working the system to use everbody elses money to support HER obligations while she spends "her money" on her every whim.


Quoting Tanya93:

If you cannot afford your life and kids, why do you deserve  stuff people who are actually working can't afford.


uQuoting amgillis88:

Ok, so you're upset about the things I've bought with my own money?

Once again, even the things PA recipients buy with their own funds are ripe for scrutiny.


Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

Yes, if I have to sacrifice TO SUPPORT YOUR CHILDREN, then you have to sacrifice, as well. I was crystal clear that I am not advocating people on PA NEVER go out to eat, go to the movies, have anything fun or not entirely essential, but you keep jerkinhg that knee and presenting yourself as a self centered, entitled child who insists she deserves to be provided a Porche even if it means the providers have to drive around in a Pinto.





Quoting amgillis88:

lol. So I have to sacrifice because you do? Okay.

I sacrifice plenty by going to school and spending precious time away from my daughter. At this point, the measly dollars I would make every month working a crappy part time job is not worth the time spent away from school and my daughter. Sorry if that bothers you.



Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

If I am having to sacrifice to provide for your children, I expect you to do the same. Im sorry if you can't wrap your entitlement complex around that.








Quoting amgillis88:

Because what people buy with their OWN money is no one's business but theirs.

I am appalled that people believe that what others buy WITH government funds is their business and what they buy with their OWN MONEY is *also* their business. I guess if you recieve PA then what you pay for with your own funds is also up for debate. Some of you should be ashamed. Thank God none of the warped opinions on here affect me in the least.




Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

Are there people who take it to the extteme in wanting to control the lives of those on PA? Sure. But OP, you are the opposite extreme. if someone on PA has cable and internet, why shouldn't we question that? If the go out to eat and a movie for an occasional treat, fine, but if do so all the time, why shouldnt we question it? Most of us make sacrifices - why shouldnt we question someone on PA who refuses to do so?











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Tanya93
by on Feb. 19, 2012 at 8:19 PM

She doesn't get it



She has money because others pay for the stuff she needs.  It is her right to spend that money because we should pay for her and her kids.


Selifish people don't get that.   They deserve stuff.   She can have cable because we pay to feed her and her child.   It is just wrong to think she should have not stuff that she couldn't pay for without living off the taxpayers.

Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

If the only reason you have what you ridicuously term as "your own money" is because YOUR debt and YOUR obligations are NOT being met by YOU using "your own money", you betcha.


Quoting amgillis88:

This just doesn't make any sense. So the only thing that should  be regulated is what people buy with their own money? You can't be serious.


Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

I dont think food stamps shoukd be limites, other than not being allowed to be used out of state or at establishments like bars, casinos, strip joints, etc... But yes, i think that being on PA and having a top line smartphone with unlimited everything service, top tier cable/internet service, taking the kids to Chucky Cheese and movies monthly, and going out to eat several times a week ABSOLUTELY should be regulated.





Quoting december911:

I am not on pa and hope we are never in a situation to need it. I know some abuse it, but I don't agree with regulating what they can and cannot use it for. I don't agree with schools governing what parents pack for lunch either. ESP since the school lunches aren't really all that healthy! I think rather than wasting time and money reinventing the pa system, they should spend it to hire investigatirs to visit this on pa to catch the abusers..it creates jobs and gets some to stop screwing the system!





amgillis88
by Member on Feb. 19, 2012 at 8:23 PM
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1. Most of the 'nice' things I have were purchased well before I recieved PA.

2. I guess the next time I want a new CD or some makeup I should refrain just because some people who don't recieve PA can't afford it.

Quoting Tanya93:

If you cannot afford your life and kids, why do you deserve  stuff people who are actually working can't afford.

uQuoting amgillis88:

Ok, so you're upset about the things I've bought with my own money?

Once again, even the things PA recipients buy with their own funds are ripe for scrutiny.

Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

Yes, if I have to sacrifice TO SUPPORT YOUR CHILDREN, then you have to sacrifice, as well. I was crystal clear that I am not advocating people on PA NEVER go out to eat, go to the movies, have anything fun or not entirely essential, but you keep jerkinhg that knee and presenting yourself as a self centered, entitled child who insists she deserves to be provided a Porche even if it means the providers have to drive around in a Pinto.


Quoting amgillis88:

lol. So I have to sacrifice because you do? Okay.

I sacrifice plenty by going to school and spending precious time away from my daughter. At this point, the measly dollars I would make every month working a crappy part time job is not worth the time spent away from school and my daughter. Sorry if that bothers you.


Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

If I am having to sacrifice to provide for your children, I expect you to do the same. Im sorry if you can't wrap your entitlement complex around that.





Quoting amgillis88:

Because what people buy with their OWN money is no one's business but theirs.

I am appalled that people believe that what others buy WITH government funds is their business and what they buy with their OWN MONEY is *also* their business. I guess if you recieve PA then what you pay for with your own funds is also up for debate. Some of you should be ashamed. Thank God none of the warped opinions on here affect me in the least.



Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

Are there people who take it to the extteme in wanting to control the lives of those on PA? Sure. But OP, you are the opposite extreme. if someone on PA has cable and internet, why shouldn't we question that? If the go out to eat and a movie for an occasional treat, fine, but if do so all the time, why shouldnt we question it? Most of us make sacrifices - why shouldnt we question someone on PA who refuses to do so?









LoveMyBoyK
by Ruby Member on Feb. 19, 2012 at 8:24 PM
Exactly, and those who DO use "their own money" to actually support ourselves and our kids are somehow the bad guy for being disgusted that she spends "her money" on luxuries and exravagences while sending OUR money to support herself and her kids.


Quoting Tanya93:

She doesn't get it



She has money because others pay for the stuff she needs.  It is her right to spend that money because we should pay for her and her kids.


Selifish people don't get that.   They deserve stuff.   She can have cable because we pay to feed her and her child.   It is just wrong to think she should have not stuff that she couldn't pay for without living off the taxpayers.


Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

If the only reason you have what you ridicuously term as "your own money" is because YOUR debt and YOUR obligations are NOT being met by YOU using "your own money", you betcha.





Quoting amgillis88:

This just doesn't make any sense. So the only thing that should  be regulated is what people buy with their own money? You can't be serious.



Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

I dont think food stamps shoukd be limites, other than not being allowed to be used out of state or at establishments like bars, casinos, strip joints, etc... But yes, i think that being on PA and having a top line smartphone with unlimited everything service, top tier cable/internet service, taking the kids to Chucky Cheese and movies monthly, and going out to eat several times a week ABSOLUTELY should be regulated.








Quoting december911:

I am not on pa and hope we are never in a situation to need it. I know some abuse it, but I don't agree with regulating what they can and cannot use it for. I don't agree with schools governing what parents pack for lunch either. ESP since the school lunches aren't really all that healthy! I think rather than wasting time and money reinventing the pa system, they should spend it to hire investigatirs to visit this on pa to catch the abusers..it creates jobs and gets some to stop screwing the system!








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