Bill Maher Unbaptizes Romney's Father-in-Law...Does THIS offend mormons? S/O
If you don't want to watch the whole thing (it is worth it), the unbatism begins at 3:45...
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I'm an atheist myself. However, I think it was wrong to unbaptize him. The Mormon religion belives you must be baptized as a Mormon (in life or death I suppose) to go to their highest level of the afterlife. It's more for his family to have that reassurance and isn't that all religion is, reassurance?
Quoting Ahyb:I'm an atheist myself. However, I think it was wrong to unbaptize him. The Mormon religion belives you must be baptized as a Mormon (in life or death I suppose) to go to their highest level of the afterlife. It's more for his family to have that reassurance and isn't that all religion is, reassurance?
The problem is that baptising the dead, especially those you knew would NEVER have agreed to it, is extremelly disrespectful. In my opinion its in essence raping the dead, forcing something you want on them that they in no way wanted.
Well equating baptism with rape is a bit extreme.
The family just wants to know they will be able to see him in their afterlife. If my surviving family wanted to do that after I was already dead. I obviously wouldn't object as I'd be dead, but on the other hand I wouldn't do it in life for any reason. If they wanted to do it for their comfort and faith after I've passed then by all means they could and thinking on it now I would have no problem with it.
Maher just disrespected the entire family and a religion on television by doing that for no reason other than to gain views and publicity and perpetrate his views on religion to the public. I think that is more wrong that wanting to see your loved one in the afterlife.
Quoting Arroree:
Quoting Ahyb:I'm an atheist myself. However, I think it was wrong to unbaptize him. The Mormon religion believes you must be baptized as a Mormon (in life or death I suppose) to go to their highest level of the afterlife. It's more for his family to have that reassurance and isn't that all religion is, reassurance?
The problem is that baptising the dead, especially those you knew would NEVER have agreed to it, is extremelly disrespectful. In my opinion its in essence raping the dead, forcing something you want on them that they in no way wanted.
It is spiritual rape, and it IS extreme, it's also extremelly wrong and disrespectful.
Quoting Ahyb:Well equating baptism with rape is a bit extreme.
The family just wants to know they will be able to see him in their afterlife. If my surviving family wanted to do that after I was already dead. I obviously wouldn't object as I'd be dead, but on the other hand I wouldn't do it in life for any reason. If they wanted to do it for their comfort and faith after I've passed then by all means they could and thinking on it now I would have no problem with it.
Maher just disrespected the entire family and a religion on television by doing that for no reason other than to gain views and publicity and perpetrate his views on religion to the public. I think that is more wrong that wanting to see your loved one in the afterlife.
Quoting Arroree:
Quoting Ahyb:I'm an atheist myself. However, I think it was wrong to unbaptize him. The Mormon religion believes you must be baptized as a Mormon (in life or death I suppose) to go to their highest level of the afterlife. It's more for his family to have that reassurance and isn't that all religion is, reassurance?
The problem is that baptising the dead, especially those you knew would NEVER have agreed to it, is extremelly disrespectful. In my opinion its in essence raping the dead, forcing something you want on them that they in no way wanted.
What kind of Atheist believes in Spirit?
Quoting Arroree:It is spiritual rape, and it IS extreme, it's also extremelly wrong and disrespectful.
Quoting Ahyb:Well equating baptism with rape is a bit extreme.
The family just wants to know they will be able to see him in their afterlife. If my surviving family wanted to do that after I was already dead. I obviously wouldn't object as I'd be dead, but on the other hand I wouldn't do it in life for any reason. If they wanted to do it for their comfort and faith after I've passed then by all means they could and thinking on it now I would have no problem with it.
Maher just disrespected the entire family and a religion on television by doing that for no reason other than to gain views and publicity and perpetrate his views on religion to the public. I think that is more wrong that wanting to see your loved one in the afterlife.
Quoting Arroree:
Quoting Ahyb:I'm an atheist myself. However, I think it was wrong to unbaptize him. The Mormon religion believes you must be baptized as a Mormon (in life or death I suppose) to go to their highest level of the afterlife. It's more for his family to have that reassurance and isn't that all religion is, reassurance?
The problem is that baptising the dead, especially those you knew would NEVER have agreed to it, is extremelly disrespectful. In my opinion its in essence raping the dead, forcing something you want on them that they in no way wanted.
Whether or not they believe in spirit isn't the point. The point is simple, if you do something to someone against their will, that you know they want nothing to do with and were completely against, that is a form of rape. If you're doing it with the belief that you're doing it to/for their spirit/soul then you are in essence spiritually raping them.
Quoting Ahyb:What kind of Atheist believes in Spirit?
Quoting Arroree:It is spiritual rape, and it IS extreme, it's also extremelly wrong and disrespectful.
Quoting Ahyb:Well equating baptism with rape is a bit extreme.
The family just wants to know they will be able to see him in their afterlife. If my surviving family wanted to do that after I was already dead. I obviously wouldn't object as I'd be dead, but on the other hand I wouldn't do it in life for any reason. If they wanted to do it for their comfort and faith after I've passed then by all means they could and thinking on it now I would have no problem with it.
Maher just disrespected the entire family and a religion on television by doing that for no reason other than to gain views and publicity and perpetrate his views on religion to the public. I think that is more wrong that wanting to see your loved one in the afterlife.
Quoting Arroree:
Quoting Ahyb:I'm an atheist myself. However, I think it was wrong to unbaptize him. The Mormon religion believes you must be baptized as a Mormon (in life or death I suppose) to go to their highest level of the afterlife. It's more for his family to have that reassurance and isn't that all religion is, reassurance?
The problem is that baptising the dead, especially those you knew would NEVER have agreed to it, is extremelly disrespectful. In my opinion its in essence raping the dead, forcing something you want on them that they in no way wanted.
Quoting Arroree:It is spiritual rape, and it IS extreme, it's also extremelly wrong and disrespectful.
Quoting Ahyb:Well equating baptism with rape is a bit extreme.
The family just wants to know they will be able to see him in their afterlife. If my surviving family wanted to do that after I was already dead. I obviously wouldn't object as I'd be dead, but on the other hand I wouldn't do it in life for any reason. If they wanted to do it for their comfort and faith after I've passed then by all means they could and thinking on it now I would have no problem with it.
Maher just disrespected the entire family and a religion on television by doing that for no reason other than to gain views and publicity and perpetrate his views on religion to the public. I think that is more wrong that wanting to see your loved one in the afterlife.
Quoting Arroree:
Quoting Ahyb:I'm an atheist myself. However, I think it was wrong to unbaptize him. The Mormon religion believes you must be baptized as a Mormon (in life or death I suppose) to go to their highest level of the afterlife. It's more for his family to have that reassurance and isn't that all religion is, reassurance?
The problem is that baptising the dead, especially those you knew would NEVER have agreed to it, is extremelly disrespectful. In my opinion its in essence raping the dead, forcing something you want on them that they in no way wanted.
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on Feb. 15, 2012 at 8:39 PM