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Hours at minimum wage needed to afford rent

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by on Mar. 15, 2012 at 10:54 PM
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TruthSeeker.
by Milami on Mar. 16, 2012 at 9:34 AM

 What about cash assistance?

Quoting bmack2107:

Not always. The system is ridiculous... but also... a lot of the low income housing places are filled with drug addicts, or are just in bad areas. Not saying all of them are, but it's not easy to find them in good areas. Not around here anyway.

Quoting TruthSeeker.:

If you make minimum wage wouldn't you qualify for low income housing?


 

Not_A_Native
by Bronze Member on Mar. 16, 2012 at 9:34 AM


Quoting mom23heathens:

 

Quoting Not_A_Native:

Minimum wage was never meant to support a family.  It was for those starting out, with unskilled jobs.

So - a 2 bedroom apartment?  Um - yeah.  Maybe don't be working a minimum wage job when you start a family.

 I was a sahm, and suddenly found myself a divorced mom that had to go to work. I got married my 2nd yr of college, and i left school to start our family. I always thought i would go back to school later but at that time i didn't think it was necessary.  When i did this i loved him and never thought he would sleep with a 15yr old and get her pg. All i could find was part time jobs at barely over min wage. I had 2 of those and an infant and toddler. I didn't start my family on  min.  wage. Things just happen to ppl, not necessarily planned that way. Back then i couldn't afford a 1 bdrm apt.

And child support?

Your story makes me sad.  Sad that you hadn't learned before that NEVER to depend on someone else for your economic security.  Sad that you chose someone who would do this.  Just - sad.

Rubberbiscuit
by Bronze Member on Mar. 16, 2012 at 9:34 AM
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You don't know what you're talking about.  My healthcare isn't free.  I pay almost $450 a month to have a family health insurance plan.  I also have co-pays for doctors visits.  Even before universal health insurance was implemented, Massachusetts was a high cost of living state.  The price of rent has zero to do with our health insurance law.  High rent is just the price you pay to live in the best state in the Union. 

Quoting Not_A_Native:

 

Quoting Rubberbiscuit:

110 hours in my state, Massachusetts.  Wow. 


Maybe has something to do with that "free" healthcare, no?

 

Not_A_Native
by Bronze Member on Mar. 16, 2012 at 9:37 AM


Quoting Rubberbiscuit:

You don't know what you're talking about.  My healthcare isn't free.  I pay almost $450 a month to have a family health insurance plan.  I also have co-pays for doctors visits.  Even before universal health insurance was implemented, Massachusetts was a high cost of living state.  The price of rent has zero to do with our health insurance law.  This is the price you pay to live in the best state in the Union. 

Quoting Not_A_Native:

 

Quoting Rubberbiscuit:

110 hours in my state, Massachusetts.  Wow. 


Maybe has something to do with that "free" healthcare, no?

 

Of course your health insurance isn't free, that's why I had it in quotes.  Yes, I know Massachusetts isn't cheap.  But it gets paid for by taxes - income taxes, property taxes, and so on.  This can't make it any better.  The cost of rent figures in what property owners pay in taxes, so that will, yes, affect the cost of rent.

heidimoose134
by Momma Moose on Mar. 16, 2012 at 9:37 AM


Quoting yourspecialkid:

 

Quoting heidimoose134:

I think most of us can agree that minimum wage is not supposed to be a living wage. I think the heart of the issue is that many people who have lost well paying jobs haven't been able to find work that pays better than minimum wage.

Quoting yourspecialkid:

 Minimum wage is not meant to be a LIVING wage.  It was meant to be the bottom tier of the pay system...high school/college jobs...some entry level jobs...low skill jobs.  People wonder where the middle class went..it got slurped up by the increasing minimum wage.


I would love to be able to pay my counter girl & delivery driver the fed min wage..and give the extra dollar and change to my skilled workers instead...state of Oregon says I can't....so my counter girl and delivery driver got a fifty cent raise to $8.80 while my skilled workers..those in the middle class got nothing..the gap between closes some more.. 


Oh and before I become evil, mean, uncaring or greedy.  I will happily pay them all $20 an hour if you will happily pay $30 to have a shirt cleaned.


 

 I agree with you 100%.  Since they can't seem to do anything with min wage except increase it..I would like to see a tiered system.  I would also like to see manufacturing increased in this country.  Our middle class was built on it!  There are ways to not only improve the economy but make it soar...it will take a several prong approach though...and given all the bickering 2 yr olds in DC (BOTH parties) that isn't likely to happen anytime soon.

BTW, I like your username..too cute!

I agree with you as well. I think we would really benefit by increasing the number of manufacturing jobs here. Not everyone is suited for college and I think it's silly to expect everyone to be. It's hard to find any good paying job without at least a Bacholers degree these days and that's just not cutting it. And getting congress to get their heads out of their behinds would be helpful as well. lol 

And thanks, lol. :-)

bmack2107
by Member on Mar. 16, 2012 at 9:38 AM

Oh, lol Idk about that. Never had to have it. I went to school and got a decent paying career. Never had to deal with all that. However, I have a few friends from high school that have been looking for low income housing, and the only places they are finding are in bad areas, and in known druggie apartment complexes.

Quoting TruthSeeker.:

 What about cash assistance?

Quoting bmack2107:

Not always. The system is ridiculous... but also... a lot of the low income housing places are filled with drug addicts, or are just in bad areas. Not saying all of them are, but it's not easy to find them in good areas. Not around here anyway.

Quoting TruthSeeker.:

If you make minimum wage wouldn't you qualify for low income housing?


 


mom23heathens
by Member on Mar. 16, 2012 at 9:40 AM

 Who knows, no on takes a poll. Live with a relative, in their car. Most homeless shelters don't accept dc and the ones that do are for battered women and you have to press charges against someone to get in.I have a friend whose sister just goes from friend to friend to relative until she wears out her welcome. I have sat across a lunch table with this friend listening to her vent about her sister so many times. She has 3 kids and no where to go, She works but not having a place to live is also affecting her assistance. They require you to disclose the income of ALL the ppl in the household which isn't always fair bc the other ppl aren't  responsible for you or your bills and don't necessarily pay them for you. AND they don't want to give PA their info bc it's none of their business. 

Cash assistance is  part of the housing system as well, i think it's where they negotiate rent with a landlord and pay a percentage and you pay the rest. Those have a wait list just as long bc not every landlord wants to rent to them. They equate these ppl with property damage, drugs, crime etc.

Quoting TruthSeeker.:

 So, what do people do? Are they given cash assistance?

Quoting mom23heathens:

 The wait list is so loooooooooong and most ppl don't ever get it bc there is only so much to go around.

Quoting TruthSeeker.:

If you make minimum wage wouldn't you qualify for low income housing?

 

 

 

DeniseHarrison
by on Mar. 16, 2012 at 9:42 AM
wow.... just wow.


malexander2009
by on Mar. 16, 2012 at 9:42 AM

You could just barly do it in the house DH and I are renting, but you would have nothing at all left afterward.

yourspecialkid
by Platinum Member on Mar. 16, 2012 at 9:45 AM

 

Quoting heidimoose134:


Quoting yourspecialkid:

 

Quoting heidimoose134:

I think most of us can agree that minimum wage is not supposed to be a living wage. I think the heart of the issue is that many people who have lost well paying jobs haven't been able to find work that pays better than minimum wage.

Quoting yourspecialkid:

 Minimum wage is not meant to be a LIVING wage.  It was meant to be the bottom tier of the pay system...high school/college jobs...some entry level jobs...low skill jobs.  People wonder where the middle class went..it got slurped up by the increasing minimum wage.


I would love to be able to pay my counter girl & delivery driver the fed min wage..and give the extra dollar and change to my skilled workers instead...state of Oregon says I can't....so my counter girl and delivery driver got a fifty cent raise to $8.80 while my skilled workers..those in the middle class got nothing..the gap between closes some more.. 


Oh and before I become evil, mean, uncaring or greedy.  I will happily pay them all $20 an hour if you will happily pay $30 to have a shirt cleaned.


 

 I agree with you 100%.  Since they can't seem to do anything with min wage except increase it..I would like to see a tiered system.  I would also like to see manufacturing increased in this country.  Our middle class was built on it!  There are ways to not only improve the economy but make it soar...it will take a several prong approach though...and given all the bickering 2 yr olds in DC (BOTH parties) that isn't likely to happen anytime soon.

BTW, I like your username..too cute!

I agree with you as well. I think we would really benefit by increasing the number of manufacturing jobs here. Not everyone is suited for college and I think it's silly to expect everyone to be. It's hard to find any good paying job without at least a Bacholers degree these days and that's just not cutting it. And getting congress to get their heads out of their behinds would be helpful as well. lol 

And thanks, lol. :-)

 Oh my gosh!  I totally agree with you on the college thing!  And this comes from someone that worked their butt off to pay for 2 degrees!  I have used 1 of them a good bit..but the other was mostly money spent on a piece of paper.  All these people with expensive degrees and jobs paying min wage or a little above..its crazy.

There are a lot of good paying jobs and careers that don't require college.  I have a nephew in high school and he has spent the last couple of years working for a plumber.  He doesn't want to go to college..he just wants to take some business courses at the jr college and open his own plumbing place.  My sister nearly had a coronary (our Mom pushed us to college)!  He is like.."Mom..what does it cost to have the plumber come out?"  The guy he works for makes 6 figures and lives in a very nice home in their small town.

Lots of blue collar fields can have high incomes.  Lots of blue collar fields have good life middle class incomes too.

 

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