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by on Apr. 11, 2012 at 12:35 AM
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mom2klca
by Silver Member on Apr. 15, 2012 at 9:26 AM

A woman has a choice whether or not to stay in an abusive relationship, just like she has the choice to have an abortion.

Quoting Woodbabe:

How familiar are you with the concept of maritial rape, pregnancy coercsion and Domestic Abuse resulting from tampered birth control? Using pregnancy to keep the woman under his control? 

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/domestic-abuse-abusive-men-sabotage-birth-control/story?id=9639340#.T4nXWKtAaVo

In some abusive relationships, men may use strategies to force women to become pregnant, including sabotaging their birth control, researchers say.

Nearly 20 percent of women at family clinics across northern California reported that their partner tried to coerce them into having a child, sometimes using methods such as poking holes in condoms or flushing birth control pills down the toilet, Dr. Elizabeth Miller of the University of California Davis and colleagues reported online in the journal Contraception.

"It was stunning to have this many women seeking reproductive health services saying, 'this has happened to me,'" lead study author Miller said. She added that the reasons men would want their partners to bear children vary "from things like wanting to leave a legacy, to a straightforward desire for attachment, to having absolute control over her body... There are all of these elements to it."

Dr. Aisha Mays, director of the Teen and Young Adult Clinic at San Francisco General Hospital, said pregnancy coercion is a growing problem that has been around for "quite some time" but is just now being recognized as a major health issue.

"It's about power and control," said Mays, who was not involved in the study. "It's another way of saying, 'This girl's taken; this girl's mine.'"

Mays said she has seen cases in which a young mother who has a child by another partner has been forced by her new boyfriend to have another baby with him.

It's also a way for males to make their partners more dependent on them, according to Amy Bonomi of Ohio State University.

"Women in abusive relationships are sometimes forced to bear children as a means to keep them dependent on their partner and sometimes as a means to justify additional -- and sometimes more severe -- abuse," Bonomi said.

Miller said pregnancy coercion often consists of verbal threats, demands, and physical violence to pressure women to become pregnant. Alternatively, some men sabotage birth control by flushing pills down the toilet, breaking condoms, or removing contraceptive rings and patches.

Indeed, previous studies have found an association between partner violence and unintended pregnancy, and new research suggests that a man's attempts to control a woman's reproductive choices may play a role in the association.

"We've known for a long time in the domestic violence world that partner violence and unintended pregnancy are connected; we just haven't understood the mechanisms," Miller said.

Quoting Jacqalyn:

In other words it was both their faults they both knew their was a chance she could get pregnant. If she didn't want to have a child or did and if he wanted the opposite of what she did or did not want. Then both should abstain. I tired of hearing one of the other being blamed when in reality it's both their faults.

Quoting mandaday:

?

Quoting Jacqalyn:

and vice verse

Quoting stacymomof2:

Yes, or abstain.  Men should know that after the woman is pregnant it is in her hands.

Quoting mom2klca:

So......just b/c a man does not believe in killing the unborn, he should prevent any chance that he may create a baby?


 


 



TCgirlatheart
by TC on Apr. 15, 2012 at 9:43 AM
That's what we're told, do you get just as outraged at that?

Quoting mom2klca:

So should it be the same for women? Either have your tubes tied or abstain?

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Woodbabe
by Woodie on Apr. 15, 2012 at 12:47 PM
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Right....women simply LOVE being abused and stay in those relationships because they want to....

Nice way to invalidate a major social problem. 

Quoting mom2klca:

A woman has a choice whether or not to stay in an abusive relationship, just like she has the choice to have an abortion.

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tweety101149
by Platinum Member on Apr. 15, 2012 at 2:04 PM
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Too many women don't report abusive relationships because they may have grown up seeing their dad absuse their mom and learned that's the thins are and should be, or they are in fear of their lives and their children's lives because of the abuse. Many live in remote rural areas, and may not have access to shelters or even know about them.  Also marital rape and rape in general is one of most unreported crimes in America.   Many men don't agree that there is such a thing as maritial rape or date rape.

Quoting mom2klca:

A woman has a choice whether or not to stay in an abusive relationship, just like she has the choice to have an abortion.

Quoting Woodbabe:

How familiar are you with the concept of maritial rape, pregnancy coercsion and Domestic Abuse resulting from tampered birth control? Using pregnancy to keep the woman under his control? 

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/domestic-abuse-abusive-men-sabotage-birth-control/story?id=9639340#.T4nXWKtAaVo

In some abusive relationships, men may use strategies to force women to become pregnant, including sabotaging their birth control, researchers say.

Nearly 20 percent of women at family clinics across northern California reported that their partner tried to coerce them into having a child, sometimes using methods such as poking holes in condoms or flushing birth control pills down the toilet, Dr. Elizabeth Miller of the University of California Davis and colleagues reported online in the journal Contraception.

"It was stunning to have this many women seeking reproductive health services saying, 'this has happened to me,'" lead study author Miller said. She added that the reasons men would want their partners to bear children vary "from things like wanting to leave a legacy, to a straightforward desire for attachment, to having absolute control over her body... There are all of these elements to it."

Dr. Aisha Mays, director of the Teen and Young Adult Clinic at San Francisco General Hospital, said pregnancy coercion is a growing problem that has been around for "quite some time" but is just now being recognized as a major health issue.

"It's about power and control," said Mays, who was not involved in the study. "It's another way of saying, 'This girl's taken; this girl's mine.'"

Mays said she has seen cases in which a young mother who has a child by another partner has been forced by her new boyfriend to have another baby with him.

It's also a way for males to make their partners more dependent on them, according to Amy Bonomi of Ohio State University.

"Women in abusive relationships are sometimes forced to bear children as a means to keep them dependent on their partner and sometimes as a means to justify additional -- and sometimes more severe -- abuse," Bonomi said.

Miller said pregnancy coercion often consists of verbal threats, demands, and physical violence to pressure women to become pregnant. Alternatively, some men sabotage birth control by flushing pills down the toilet, breaking condoms, or removing contraceptive rings and patches.

Indeed, previous studies have found an association between partner violence and unintended pregnancy, and new research suggests that a man's attempts to control a woman's reproductive choices may play a role in the association.

"We've known for a long time in the domestic violence world that partner violence and unintended pregnancy are connected; we just haven't understood the mechanisms," Miller said.

Quoting Jacqalyn:

In other words it was both their faults they both knew their was a chance she could get pregnant. If she didn't want to have a child or did and if he wanted the opposite of what she did or did not want. Then both should abstain. I tired of hearing one of the other being blamed when in reality it's both their faults.

Quoting mandaday:

?

Quoting Jacqalyn:

and vice verse

Quoting stacymomof2:

Yes, or abstain.  Men should know that after the woman is pregnant it is in her hands.

Quoting mom2klca:

So......just b/c a man does not believe in killing the unborn, he should prevent any chance that he may create a baby?


 


 


 


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mom2klca
by Silver Member on Apr. 15, 2012 at 4:00 PM

I don't agree with either POV.

Quoting TCgirlatheart:

That's what we're told, do you get just as outraged at that?

Quoting mom2klca:

So should it be the same for women? Either have your tubes tied or abstain?


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