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Zimmerman will be charged! *UPDATE* *IN RED*

Posted by on Apr. 11, 2012 at 2:34 PM
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Zimmerman is in custody, after turning himself in. He is charged with second degree murder. 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/george-zimmerman-to-be-charged-in-trayvon-martin-shooting-law-enforcement-official-says/2012/04/11/gIQAHJ5oAT_story.html


Florida special prosecutor Angela Corey plans to announce as early as Wednesday afternoon that she is charging neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman in the shooting ofTrayvon Martin, according to a law enforcement official close to the investigation.

It was not immediately clear what charge Zimmerman will face.

Attorney General Eric Holder addresses the Justice Department's investigation into the Trayvon Martin shooting at the National Action Network conference.

Martin, 17 and unarmed, was shot and killed Feb. 26 by Zimmerman, who said he was acting in self-defense. Police in Sanford, Fla., where the shooting took place, did not charge Zimmerman, citing the state’s “stand your ground” law.

Corey told reporters Tuesday night that she would hold a news conference about the case within 72 hours. A news release from her office said the event will be held in Sanford or Jacksonville, Fla.

Benjamin Crump, who is representing the Martin family, said this week that Corey’s office had asked where Trayvon’s parents would be each day this week. They arrived Wednesday in Washington for a civil rights conference organized by the Rev. Al Sharpton, where they are scheduled to speak.

The announcement of a charge against Zimmerman would come a day afterZimmerman’s attorneys withdrew from the case, citing their inability to contact Zimmerman.

Lawyers Craig Sonner and Hal Uhrig on Tuesday expressed concern about Zimmerman’s emotional and physical well-being, saying he has taken actions without consulting them. They also said they do not know where Zimmerman is.

“You can stop looking in Florida,” Uhrig told reporters. “Look much further away than that.”

Corey said Monday that she would not bring the case before a grand jury, which was expected to convene this week. She said her decision to forgo the grand jury should not be viewed as a factor in determining whether charges will be filed.

Corey has indicated in recent weeks that she might not need a grand jury to bring charges against Zimmerman.

The lawyers said they stand by their assertions that Zimmerman acted in self-defense when he killed the 17-year-old, who was unarmed, but they acknowledged that they formed their impressions without meeting Zimmerman.

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Naturewoman4
by Platinum Member on Apr. 11, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Well maybe, maybe not.  B/C you really don't know me.  I can say the same about you & some others on here.  This to me, isn't about black/white.  Yes, I was upset that they kept reporting 'white', even the cops reports said white male.  Yes, it did upset me b/c, it has brought up all this black vs. whites all over again.  It's NOT even a 'white' thing, Z is an Hispanic, as I've been saying in all my posts.  So, the war I guess one can say, is about Black vs. White & Hispanics.  As I mentioned where I live, the problem IS between the Blacks & Hispanics.  They hate one another. 

Quoting Della529:

 Yet you don't even know what her specialty is in criminal justice.  She could be a jailer or a corrections officer or a forensic evidence technician.  What - do you think she's an attorney or a judge? 

You are simply hell-bent on this being a detriment to "white-folks".  Those black folks, hispanics and people with dark skin and different features (and those on PA) are BAD, BAD - they're in "your" country and they ain't doing what you think they should do.  They're taking your tax dollars, for gosh sakes! 

Most have read your screeds and understand where you are coming from, Nature.  You're like a sheet of glass, completely transparent.

Quoting Naturewoman4:

Why would I want to see what some Prosecutor has to say, of course, they will be bias.  I just happen to want to ask someone that has her degree in CJ here on CM.

Quoting Della529:

 Instead of asking a person who has a degree in an unknown specialty in CJ, why don't you simply tune in and listen to the woman who has 25 years as a prosecutor under her belt?  I'm sure you can find the live broadcast on your local TV station, or you can find it at News4Jax.com.

Quoting Naturewoman4:

Since, you also have your degree in Justice Studies?... Could you tell me what do you think about this case. The SYG Law? Do you think it applies in this case & what do you think of the current evidence?


Quoting owl0210:

Well I can't speak for others but I went to college in New England and received a Bachelors in Justice Studies. It's definitely helped me in my career.



Quoting Raintree:

Judging by the number of people pursuing CJ degrees- the market appears to be saturated. What's more, there doesn't seem to be a heavy concentration on quality.

Quoting Della529:

 So many keep talking about a degree in criminal justice.  Good grief!  What kind of degree in CJ?  What specialty?



 

 

 


Sisteract
by Whoopie on Apr. 11, 2012 at 9:10 PM
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Quoting Tara922c:

We have to also remember that the jurors do not hear everything that we hear on the news during the trial. I was so deeply involved with the Casey Anthony case that I literally threw up when the verdict was announced. I believe it is due to the fact that my daughter was just a year younger than little Caylee at the time of the murder. I do feel that she was guilty, I was shocked at the verdict, and I will never understand, but I was not a juror. One good thing did happen from that case, and that is now a person can receive up to 20 years in prison for lying to police about a missing child case. Personally, I believe that if Zimmerman was "attacked" he could have at least tried to fight back without pulling his gun. If he really felt that Trayvon was up to no good, he should have called the police, made a report, and stayed in his vehicle. It was just plain stupid for him to ever get out of his vehicle! I have been a witness in a crime. I saw three young men who were standing at the stairs of my apartments at 2 AM on a Thursday morning. I was coming home from a concert, and I had to walk past them to get to my apartment. I turned the corner to walk up my stairs and felt a sudden chill go down my spine. The young guys looked me straight in my eyes, and I could do nothing but walk up my stairs. I told my husband, and wanted to call the police. The young men were not doing anything. It was just weird. Three young guys, standing, one on a cell phone, one with his face looking at the ground, they weren't talking, they weren't smoking, they were just standing there. At 4 AM the police were banging at my door. Turns out my neighbors were coming home at the same time as me. They saw the three guys, they saw them watch me walk up my stairs, and as soon as I shut the door, the men robbed my neighbors at gun point, forced them to drive to the ATM, came back, woke up their roommate at gun point, and cleaned out their apartment. I felt so bad for not calling. I would not have thought twice if it was one guy walking in my apartments at 7 PM. The police officer told me something I will never forget, "If someone appears to be suspecious, go in your house, drive off in your car, do not try to be a hero, do not approach the person, call the police, and we will come check it out." I had to identify one of the suspects, he took a plea, I moved. I do feel that Zimmerman found Trayvon to be suspecious because he saw a young black man walking in his neighborhood and judged him by the way he was dressed. Even if that wasn't the case, he didn't have to get out of the car. A person does not have to be a racist to racially profile someone. We all have steryotypes of people we do not know.

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BINGO^. Especially when you apply the timeline- 2 minutes to pursue, confront, interact, fight, shoot and kill. Seems like a quick trigger.

Della529
by Matlock on Apr. 11, 2012 at 9:11 PM
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 *SIGH*

Naturewoman4
by Platinum Member on Apr. 11, 2012 at 9:12 PM

From what I've heard, there was that 1 eye witness, saying T was on top of Z.  Then, there's another neighbor that has said the same thing.  So, I don't know if it's true or not, that's just what I heard.  I don't watch CNN.  But, I will tonight.  So, perhaps I can get another side to all this.  Also, what does the GF calls have to do with any evidence?  I remember, in the beginning about that neighbor that called 911, the screams then the shot.  That's when I though yes, Zimmerman did it.  Didn't sound like self-defense.  But, then I started hearing all sorts of things.  I even heard that T father said, that wasn't his son's screaming for help.  So, it was things like that, that came out then I had my doubts.  Then, the experts ruled out Zimmerman.  I honestly, DID think it was T voice that screamed for help.  I do see now, that the State has found some strong enough evidence to prove his guilt.  I guess, we're going to have to wait for the trail.  Does anyone know if Z posted any bond?  Or if can he?

Quoting Sisteract:

As far as I know their are no credible Eye or Visual witnesses- I do not believe that there is any witness to the actual physical fight that can prove that Martin was on Zimmerman.

The timeline was reiterated multiple times on CNN today. RECORDED 911 call (and transcripts), the RECORDED 911 call from the female audio witness- calling because of loud voices, screaming outside her window and then during this call, the audible gun shot and the ceasing of screams- recorded and aired on CNN. In addition, there are the cell phone records and interview with the GF- again all HARD, concrete evidence. You have to connect the dots of the HARD, RECORDED AND TIME STAMPED evidence, rather than phantom pieces of hearsay-

The Prosecutor has this HARD evidence and more: physical evidence, the body, GSW, bullet, blood splatter, clothing, lab data collected from TM's body....all of this evidence together tells the true story- Obviously, the legal folks think that criminal charges were applicable.


Carpy
by carrot pants on Apr. 11, 2012 at 9:13 PM
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I don't know much more than you or the media because autopsy reports and blood spatter evidence etc..has not been released.  The whole story may be told by those things and they have not been released to the public.

Quoting Naturewoman4:

Maybe not Carpy, I never said I did.  All I said was that is what I heard on TV & read online.  Could you please tell me what the evidence are that supports Z being guilty, so at least I'll have a 2nd side to consider.  Maybe, I've got this ALL wrong.  In the beginning, I did think Z was guilty.  Until, the rest of the info. came out.  Those witnesses saying T was on top Z.  I think the media just really got all the 'facts' all screwed up.  For me, I NEVER rush to judgement in this case.  Seems, ALOT of America did.  But, who knows maybe that means they're right.  All I'm TRYING to say, is I'm trying to make sure it's right.  I guess, I like law.  I enjoy reading up on different cases.  There's been a few cases right there in FL, that released ppl b/c of the SYG Law.  I was shocked!  But, IF that's their own law...well I guess, they had better changed it or more things like this will happen..

Quoting Carpy:

The only problem is YOU don't have all the evidence. 

Quoting Naturewoman4:

I still believe she had to charge him, or all hell would of broke up.  It would of been another L.A. Riots.  imo.  Why would I want to listen to a Prosecutor?  I do want the truth, but I don't want a one-sided truth.  All I have done is gone by all what I've heard in this case.  What the evidence is & the witnesses have said.  IF there's more that we haven't heard, I will wait till then.  But, meanwhile I still believe this is a case of SYG.  I'm just curious, why is everyone already convicting him?  I mean, where is the evidence?  I'm being serious.  I want to know, b/c I DO want Justice, either way.  What I DON'T want is someone to just go to prison, just b/c of what the Black Panther's want, or the Sharpton's want, or the public that want Z is rot in prison for the rest of his life, even worse that boundy on his head.  Can you tell me what evidence there is that it wasn't self-defense?  Evidence? Witnesses?  Within a shadow of a doubt, remember.  IF there is.  Then, yes, Z has to pay for what he did.  But, I haven't heard anything that would convict him.  Maybe, I'm missing something.

Quoting Sisteract:


Quoting Naturewoman4:

Why would I want to see what some Prosecutor has to say, of course, they will be bias.  I just happen to want to ask someone that has her degree in CJ here on CM.




 


Um it's not some Prosecutor. She's the lady who has studied all the evidence and information related to this case and made the educated decision.

Really. In terms of this case you do not want to hear what the person in charge has to say? I guess you're not too interested in justice or the truth-

Your comment makes zero sense-





Sisteract
by Whoopie on Apr. 11, 2012 at 9:16 PM
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The GF's cell phone records provide an exact time stamp and can refute Zimmerman's story....as she HEARD the initiation of the event. She is an audio witness-

Until I see a name, face or recorded voice of one of these"witnesses" I refuse to acknowledge their existence. Sorry.

The legal eagles would have taken all this information into acct-

JonJon
by Ruby Member on Apr. 11, 2012 at 9:19 PM
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clappinggoodway to gohigh five


Angela Corey, you rockrock n rollbowing down


I have to admit, I got a little misty-eyed.  I was so scared this guy was going to skate.


Euphoric
by Sheldon on Apr. 11, 2012 at 9:21 PM
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 I'll second that.

Quoting JonJon:

clappinggoodway to gohigh five

 

Angela Corey, you rockrock n rollbowing down

 

I have to admit, I got a little misty-eyed.  I was so scared this guy was going to skate.


 

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Sisteract
by Whoopie on Apr. 11, 2012 at 9:22 PM

Nature I see you are referring to guilt.

Here's what I see: Reasonable doubt based on George's story in conjunction with the hard evidence released.

A young boy was stalked and is now dead....for what apparent reason? Again apply "reasonable" behaviors and decisions to this situation.

The right thing to have happen is for a JURY to decide...have a jury trial, release the evidence and let the JURY decide- 

We cannot allow folks to take another's life for ZERO reasonable reason and then notto have to answer to or be held accountable for their poor decisions.

JonJon
by Ruby Member on Apr. 11, 2012 at 9:24 PM
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I'm a little worried; the last time I cared about a case this much, the lead prosecutor was also a woman, one named Marcia Clark, and SHE lost her case.  Much has been learned since '94 but FL seems like a REALLY backward place, based on what I've been learning about how they do things down there these last 2-3 weeks.

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