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CAN A SECOND DEGREE CHARGE BE PROVED?

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Over charged? Can it be done? What facts could she have that made her bring second degree?

In my Opininon No Disrespect

by on Apr. 11, 2012 at 6:30 PM
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stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Apr. 11, 2012 at 6:57 PM
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Unless Zimmerman can prove that it was self defense this is exactly what the charge should be.  It fits exactly.

charleyd68
by Platinum Member on Apr. 11, 2012 at 6:58 PM

I hope it will. I hate to delight in Zimmerman's arrest,he is a human being. However, I don't believe he had just cause to kill Trayvon!

Quoting EireLass:

Well, 2nd degree is when it's intentional, yet not pre-meditated. And not done in the 'heat of passion'. And that he had so little regard for human life, via his overall actions. I think it's a slam dunk, based on what 2nd degree means.


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Veni.Vidi.Vici.
by on Apr. 11, 2012 at 6:58 PM
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I assume that there is info out there that hasn't been reported on by the press. 

What I don't understand is how those charges can be brought upon GZ without a grand jury.

jewels5525
by Gold Member on Apr. 11, 2012 at 7:00 PM
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FL only requires grand jury for 1st degree.  The prosecuter said she has never used them in ror murder or manslaughter charges.

Quoting Veni.Vidi.Vici.:

I assume that there is info out there that hasn't been reported on by the press. 

What I don't understand is how those charges can be brought upon GZ without a grand jury.


charleyd68
by Platinum Member on Apr. 11, 2012 at 7:02 PM

Thank You, I saw several things that fit second degree! you rock

Quoting stacymomof2:

I will c&p my answer from the other thread:

Here's some info on second degree murder n Florida:

Second Degree Murder occurs when a person intentionally commits an extremely dangerous act that demonstrates a depraved mind without regard to human life and someone else is killed by the result of that act. A person can be convicted of Second Degree Murder even if they did not specifically intend to kill anyone. http://www.nejamelaw.com/homicide-lawyer-orlando-florida.htm


(2) The unlawful killing of a human being, when perpetrated by any act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life, although without any premeditated design to effect the death of any particular individual, is murder in the second degree and constitutes a felony of the first degree, punishable by imprisonment for a term of years not exceeding life or as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(3) When a person is killed in the perpetration of, or in the attempt to perpetrate, any:
(a) Trafficking offense prohibited by s. 893.135(1),
(b) Arson,
(c) Sexual battery,
(d) Robbery,
(e) Burglary,
(f) Kidnapping,
(g) Escape,
(h) Aggravated child abuse,
(i) Aggravated abuse of an elderly person or disabled adult,
(j) Aircraft piracy,
(k) Unlawful throwing, placing, or discharging of a destructive device or bomb,
(l) Carjacking,
(m) Home-invasion robbery,
(n) Aggravated stalking,
(o) Murder of another human being,
(p) Resisting an officer with violence to his or her person, or
(q) Felony that is an act of terrorism or is in furtherance of an act of terrorism,

by a person other than the person engaged in the perpetration of or in the attempt to perpetrate such felony, the person perpetrating or attempting to perpetrate such felony is guilty of murder in the second degree, which constitutes a felony of the first degree, punishable by imprisonment for a term of years not exceeding life or as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0700-0799/0782/0782.html


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charleyd68
by Platinum Member on Apr. 11, 2012 at 7:03 PM
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Quoting stacymomof2:

Unless Zimmerman can prove that it was self defense this is exactly what the charge should be.  It fits exactly.


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MissElissa21
by Bronze Member on Apr. 11, 2012 at 7:03 PM

I don't know. I am sure they have information not available to the public. I hope they learned their lesson with the Casey Anthony case and didn't over charge him because the people made a stink about it. I still feel really bad for the families. 

DaisyMay9876
by on Apr. 11, 2012 at 7:06 PM
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Quoting FromAtoZ:

I am not about to speculate on what they may have, or not have, in regards to the charges.  It appears that they feel they have what is needed.  

No doubt we will all 'try' this case ourselves, more than once, before this is over.  We already have. lol  Numerous times.

The fact that charges have indeed been brought against Zimmerman is the first step in a very long ordeal.  But it is indeed a good, first step.

I don't care for Sharpton but I do agree with what he just said...........public opinion, outcry, etc., did not bring about these charges.  The outcry did, however, bring another look upon the case.

I also agree with what he just said.  This is not a victory, no gloating.  His parents and family are still mourning.  This is, however, a good first step in the direction this needed to go.

How my heart still hurts for that family.

Oh bullcrap!!  They brought charges because they were afraid of riots. Corey is pandering to the masses.  She is not going to be able to prove her case.

Sisteract
by Whoopie on Apr. 11, 2012 at 7:09 PM
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Quoting MissElissa21:

I don't know. I am sure they have information not available to the public. I hope they learned their lesson with the Casey Anthony case and didn't over charge him because the people made a stink about it. I still feel really bad for the families. 

2nd degree is not capital murder. I do not believe overcharging is as big of an issue....it does not carry the same emotion.

Sisteract
by Whoopie on Apr. 11, 2012 at 7:10 PM
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Quoting DaisyMay9876:


Quoting FromAtoZ:

I am not about to speculate on what they may have, or not have, in regards to the charges.  It appears that they feel they have what is needed.  

No doubt we will all 'try' this case ourselves, more than once, before this is over.  We already have. lol  Numerous times.

The fact that charges have indeed been brought against Zimmerman is the first step in a very long ordeal.  But it is indeed a good, first step.

I don't care for Sharpton but I do agree with what he just said...........public opinion, outcry, etc., did not bring about these charges.  The outcry did, however, bring another look upon the case.

I also agree with what he just said.  This is not a victory, no gloating.  His parents and family are still mourning.  This is, however, a good first step in the direction this needed to go.

How my heart still hurts for that family.

Oh bullcrap!!  They brought charges because they were afraid of riots. Corey is pandering to the masses.  She is not going to be able to prove her case.

Sorry, you were wrong. Head stuck in the sand-

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