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The So Called "Farewell Law" in Egypt is a Fabrication.

Posted by on Apr. 28, 2012 at 10:02 AM
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Of course.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2012/0426/Egypt-necrophilia-law-Hooey-utter-hooey

oday, Egypt's state-owned Al Ahram newspaper published an opinion piece by Amr Abdul Samea, a past stalwart supporter of the deposed Hosni Mubarak, that contained a bombshell: Egypt's parliament is considering passing a law that would allow husbands to have sex with their wives after death.

It was soon mentioned in an English language version of Al-Arabiya and immediately started zipping around social-networking sites. By this afternoon it had set news sites and the rest of the Internet on fire. It has every thing: The yuck factor, "those creepy Muslims" factor, the lulz factor for those with a sick sense of humor. The non-fact-checked Daily Mail picked it up and reported it as fact. Then Andrew Sullivan, who has a highly influential blog but is frequently lax about fact-checking, gave it a boost with an uncritical take. TheHuffington Post went there, too.

There's of course one problem: The chances of any such piece of legislation being considered by the Egyptian parliament for a vote is zero. And the chance of it ever passing is less than that. In fact, color me highly skeptical that anyone is even trying to advance a piece of legislation like this through Egypt's parliament. I'm willing to be proven wrong. It's possible that there's one or two lawmakers completely out of step with the rest of parliament. Maybe. 

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But extreme, not to mention inflammatory claims, need at minimum some evidence (and I've read my share of utter nonsense in Al Ahram over the years). The evidence right now? Zero.

There was a Moroccan cleric a few years back who apparently did issue a religious ruling saying that husbands remained married to their wives in the first six hours after death and, so, well, you know. But that guy is far, far out on the nutty fringe. How fringe? He also ruled that pregnant women can drink alcohol. Remember, alcohol is considered haram, forbidden, by the vast majority of the world's Muslim scholars. Putting an unborn child at risk to get drunk? No, that's just not what they do. Whatever the mainstream's unpalatable beliefs (there are plenty from my perspective) this isn't one of them.

It's important to remember that the structure of the Muslim clergy is, by and large, like that of a number of Protestant Christian sects. Anyone can put out a shingle and declare themselves a preacher. The ones to pay attention to are the ones with large followings, or attachment to major institutions of Islamic learning. The preacher in Morocco is like the preacher in Florida who spent so much time and energy publicizing the burning of Qurans.

Stories like this are a reminder of the downside of the Internet. It makes fact-checking and monitoring easier. But the proliferation of aggregation sites, newsy blog sites, and the general erosion of editorial standards (and on-the-ground reporters to do the heavy lifting) also spreads silliness faster than it ever could before.

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muslimahpj
by Ruby Member on Apr. 28, 2012 at 10:17 AM
Thank you.
dollwith4
by Bronze Member on Apr. 28, 2012 at 10:25 AM

See, this makes so much more sence. 


~When the Government's boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right, is of no consequence!~

stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Apr. 28, 2012 at 10:43 AM

Awe, seriously?  Bump!

H_Tunisia_Remix
by on Apr. 28, 2012 at 11:14 AM

 I liked how in the other post my response was completely ignored. According to the Hanafi Madhab, the largest school of Islamic jurisprudence in the world and the second largest in Egypt, a man is not even allowed to see his deceased wife hair uncovered after death because he is no longer considered a mahram. He is not allowed to even touch her because she is no longer considered his wife or related to him. A wife can see and wash her deceased husband as she has a waiting period (iddah) after death where she is still considered his spouse to prove any child that may have been conceived is with out a doubt his.

Did you all know even Rush Limbaugh has the fabrication on his website... sick.

winterglow
by on Apr. 28, 2012 at 11:17 AM

I am shocked and saddened that ANYONE would believe such a thing.

 

stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Apr. 28, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Ugh, I know, it's so infuriating.  I heard it at work, a guy that is doing some remodeling in our building had Limbaugh blasting on the radio.  Of course it was presented as a law that had already passed, sponsored by the Muslim Brotherhood.  Of course there is no evidence that it was even introduced or contemplated, and certainly there is no support of it in Egypt among the public, the Muslim Brotherhood, or anyone.  It came out of thin air.

Quoting H_Tunisia_Remix:

 I liked how in the other post my response was completely ignored. According to the Hanafi Madhab, the largest school of Islamic jurisprudence in the world and the second largest in Egypt, a man is not even allowed to see his deceased wife hair uncovered after death because he is no longer considered a mahram. He is not allowed to even touch her because she is no longer considered his wife or related to him. A wife can see and wash her deceased husband as she has a waiting period (iddah) after death where she is still considered his spouse to prove any child that may have been conceived is with out a doubt his.

Did you all know even Rush Limbaugh has the fabrication on his website... sick.


krysstizzle
by on Apr. 28, 2012 at 11:23 AM
Bump!
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stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Apr. 28, 2012 at 11:24 AM

I know, the other post is full of replies using the throwing-up sweet pea and outraged replies about how sick it is.  I and other posters posted corrections in that thread, directly after those corrections more posts about how disgusting those icky Muslims are.

Quoting winterglow:

I am shocked and saddened that ANYONE would believe such a thing.



muslimahpj
by Ruby Member on Apr. 28, 2012 at 11:28 AM
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I knew that would happen and even made a comment about it happening, on either the first or second page.

Just shows that most dont care about the truth.

Quoting stacymomof2:

I know, the other post is full of replies using the throwing-up sweet pea and outraged replies about how sick it is.  I and other posters posted corrections in that thread, directly after those corrections more posts about how disgusting those icky Muslims are.

Quoting winterglow:

I am shocked and saddened that ANYONE would believe such a thing.




muslimah
by on Apr. 28, 2012 at 11:31 AM
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 Where is everyone now?


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