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Woman says that a local bar wouldn't let her dance on a platform because she was too fat

Posted by on Apr. 30, 2012 at 9:16 PM
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Student Says Bar Told Her She Was Too Fat


Jordan Ramos, Hawkeye Woman, Says Iowa City Union Bar Discriminated Her For Weight

Jordan Ramos Weight Discrimination Bar

A University of Iowa student says that a local bar wouldn't let her dance on a platform because she was "not pretty enough" and "obviously pregnant," despite expressing she was not, the Iowa City Press-Citizen reports.

Jordan Ramos, 21, describes herself as a plus-sized woman, but she never imagined her weight would become an issue at Union Bar, a downtown Iowa City establishment, where bouncers would deny her the option of dancing with her friends atop a small stage -- twice.

Ramos visited the bar on March 3 and again on April 4 and experienced the same discrimination both times, she said. The second time, a bouncer allegedly told her she couldn't dance because she was "obviously pregnant.

"They knew I was not pregnant; it was their way of calling me fat without having to actually say it," Ramos told ABC News.

And according to Ramos, other plus-sized women have had similar experiences.

The woman reached out to the Human Rights Commission in Iowa City, but according to the organization weight discrimination isn't illegal, ABC News reports.

But that's not stopping Ramos from taking a stand for herself and others.

"I understand that obesity is unhealthy, and I'm not condoning it," she told the Daily Iowan. "What I am trying to do is say that we are all human beings, and we all deserve to be treated equally."

The Iowa City Press-Citizen reached out to George Wittgraf, the owner of Union Bar, who said he was not familiar with the situation but disapproved of the employee's alleged behavior.

Nevertheless, Ramos is planning a rally in front Union Bar on May 4, where she says she hopes to ensure the bar not only makes a formal commitment to prohibit any form of discrimination in the future, but issues an apology to anyone who's received sub-par treatment in the past, the Daily Iowan reports.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/30/jordan-ramos-university-iowa-bar-discrimination_n_1464666.html


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FromAtoZ
by AllieCat on Apr. 30, 2012 at 9:19 PM
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Okay.  I was waiting for the bar to say they denied her access due to weight limits on the platform itself, for safety reasons.


wickedfiress
by Kellie on Apr. 30, 2012 at 9:20 PM
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Could it structurally support that much weight? If not then they can tell her she's too large to get on it for her own safety. 

katy_kay08
by on Apr. 30, 2012 at 9:22 PM
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go to a different bar

stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Apr. 30, 2012 at 9:23 PM

It's annoying but stuff like that happens all the time in bars and nightclubs.  Who do you think gets to sit in a VIP area?  Only good looking people.  Not having the right look can even keep you out on the street and unable to get into the club.  Sad but true.  

I work at a club but I was never too much of a clubber.  I was more of a talk bar girl.  I didn't really have the club "look."  That aspect of nighclubs is always kind of annoying but they make their money by making it seem like all the beautiful people go there.  

Themis_Defleo
by Bronze Member on Apr. 30, 2012 at 9:23 PM
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Weight and beauty are not protected classes.  If the platform was not properly rated for someone of her size, that's the bar protecting itself from a lawsuit.  If she's just unattractive, it sucks if they wouldn't let her dance, but they are within their legal rights.

If she looked pregnant, the bar was acting reasonably to protect her from harm.

I will once again wave my banner that says, "not all discrimination is wrongful."  

I applaud her for staging a protest rather than trying to file a lawsuit, though.


futureshock
by Ruby Member on Apr. 30, 2012 at 9:32 PM


Quoting wickedfiress:

Could it structurally support that much weight? If not then they can tell her she's too large to get on it for her own safety. 

There are lots of people on it at any one time.  I think the truth is that they want only attractive people up on the platform because it is like a showcase or something.  Still sick.

Debmomto2girls
by Platinum Member on Apr. 30, 2012 at 9:32 PM
And if she hurt herself on the stage.. She would have sued
punky3175
by Punky on Apr. 30, 2012 at 9:32 PM
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I agree with what everyone else said - was the platform capable of holding her weight? From the picture she doesn't look overly large, but I can see where there would be concern.
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wickedfiress
by Kellie on Apr. 30, 2012 at 9:35 PM


Quoting futureshock:


Quoting wickedfiress:

Could it structurally support that much weight? If not then they can tell her she's too large to get on it for her own safety. 

There are lots of people on it at any one time.  I think the truth is that they want only attractive people up on the platform because it is like a showcase or something.  Still sick.

3 small women may only be slightly over 300 lbs together.... one woman her size is easily 240+ lbs alone... so she may be able to be on it alone and it still hold her safely. 


It's amazing how people don't hold themselves to the standards they set for others.


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