http://m.npr.org/story/152207969?url=/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/05/07/152207969/reports-cia-thwarts-new-more-sophisticated-underwear-bomber
Anyone care for a drink? Margaritta? A soda? Coffee?
Quoting Shortiekt:
Lol... Can I borrow the sqeezable butter for my popcorn?
Quoting Soon2bemommy214:
I claim this seat...
I was teasing.
Quoting futureshock:
How is that being profiled?
Quoting kailu1835:
You will be profiled if you set off the alarm and your daughter who already passed through just fine hugs you before they search your person. You might have passed her a gun.
Quoting FromAtoZ:
Well, I will be leaving on a jet plane in about a month. How should I be ready to be profiled? I am caucasian, I am 5' 3", brownish hair (could be a little different color by then, who knows), 47 years old, a Grandmother, to be traveling with my 12 year old daughter.
Which 'profile' will I fit in to? Let me know so I can be prepared to be delayed.
I see what you mean, I did use the term 'racially profiling'. However, I tend to think of that in terms not of 'Oh that man is black, or white, or hispanic, he's suspicious!'. I tend to think of it as, I've heard that the attire listed below is often what a person is wearing when they rob a convenience store, because the hoodie helps cover their identity. There are other kinds of clothing and behavior, that especially when combined with certain races, highten the likelihood that the person might be up to trouble. I just think a policeman should be able to do his job without wondering if they are going to be attacked later for racially profiling a person. I'm not saying that a policeman has the right to, say, chase the person down for questioning, but I think that they should be able to, say, keep an eye on the person until they leave the convenience store. Not stalk, not cause trouble, just keep an eye on, without having to deal with politics afterwards.
Quoting Shortiekt:Please tell me how this attire can be contributed to a particular race...
Quoting mommy2b39465:no, but if a policeman sees a teenager with pants sagging halfway past his butt with a hoodie pulled over his head and his arms stuck in the pockets, he should be able to say 'that kid kinda looks suspicious, I think I'll stick around and keep an eye on him until he leaves the store....'
Quoting jewels5525:So then its ok to pull over all teenagers because they might have just robbed a store?
Quoting mommy2b39465:I agree with you, racially profiling should be used, in my opinion, when used by trained officials. I don't want another 911. I don't want a kid getting away from robbing a store because the police are afraid they might be considered to be profiling him. That shouldn't be a concern, they should be able to to see a potential threat and check it out.
It is 'suspicious' to wear a hoodie in 80 degree weather, but not if it's 50 degrees and/or raining.
The clothing isn't the only thing that warrants 'suspicious behavior' and hopefully LEOs everywhere know the difference...otherwise an officer would spend his entire day 'waiting' for a crime to be committed.
What clothing, when combined, by 'certain races' highten likelihood of trouble?
Quoting mommy2b39465:I see what you mean, I did use the term 'racially profiling'. However, I tend to think of that in terms not of 'Oh that man is black, or white, or hispanic, he's suspicious!'. I tend to think of it as, I've heard that the attire listed below is often what a person is wearing when they rob a convenience store, because the hoodie helps cover their identity. There are other kinds of clothing and behavior, that especially when combined with certain races, highten the likelihood that the person might be up to trouble. I just think a policeman should be able to do his job without wondering if they are going to be attacked later for racially profiling a person. I'm not saying that a policeman has the right to, say, chase the person down for questioning, but I think that they should be able to, say, keep an eye on the person until they leave the convenience store. Not stalk, not cause trouble, just keep an eye on, without having to deal with politics afterwards.
Quoting Shortiekt:Please tell me how this attire can be contributed to a particular race...
Quoting mommy2b39465:no, but if a policeman sees a teenager with pants sagging halfway past his butt with a hoodie pulled over his head and his arms stuck in the pockets, he should be able to say 'that kid kinda looks suspicious, I think I'll stick around and keep an eye on him until he leaves the store....'
Quoting jewels5525:So then its ok to pull over all teenagers because they might have just robbed a store?
Quoting mommy2b39465:I agree with you, racially profiling should be used, in my opinion, when used by trained officials. I don't want another 911. I don't want a kid getting away from robbing a store because the police are afraid they might be considered to be profiling him. That shouldn't be a concern, they should be able to to see a potential threat and check it out.
Quoting mommy2b39465:I see what you mean, I did use the term 'racially profiling'. However, I tend to think of that in terms not of 'Oh that man is black, or white, or hispanic, he's suspicious!'. I tend to think of it as, I've heard that the attire listed below is often what a person is wearing when they rob a convenience store, because the hoodie helps cover their identity. There are other kinds of clothing and behavior, that especially when combined with certain races, highten the likelihood that the person might be up to trouble. I just think a policeman should be able to do his job without wondering if they are going to be attacked later for racially profiling a person. I'm not saying that a policeman has the right to, say, chase the person down for questioning, but I think that they should be able to, say, keep an eye on the person until they leave the convenience store. Not stalk, not cause trouble, just keep an eye on, without having to deal with politics afterwards.
Quoting Shortiekt:Please tell me how this attire can be contributed to a particular race...
Quoting mommy2b39465:no, but if a policeman sees a teenager with pants sagging halfway past his butt with a hoodie pulled over his head and his arms stuck in the pockets, he should be able to say 'that kid kinda looks suspicious, I think I'll stick around and keep an eye on him until he leaves the store....'
Quoting jewels5525:So then its ok to pull over all teenagers because they might have just robbed a store?
Quoting mommy2b39465:I agree with you, racially profiling should be used, in my opinion, when used by trained officials. I don't want another 911. I don't want a kid getting away from robbing a store because the police are afraid they might be considered to be profiling him. That shouldn't be a concern, they should be able to to see a potential threat and check it out.
Police do as you have stated. If they see some one in a store, or any where, that is acting in a suspicious manner, they are going to keep an eye on that person. If they pick out a person who is not doing a damn thing, figure they will based on what they are wearing, or the color of their skin, that isn't cool. At all.
Now, if it is 90 degrees out and some one walks in wearing a heavy, winter coat......that is certainly some one to keep an eye on.
I've never heard of a police officer getting in trouble, or 'hearing about it' for keeping an eye on some one who is acting suspicious. And I would bet money that many do indeed keep an eye on some one based on the color of their skin, or their clothing, or the color of their hair, how many tattoos they have. They damn well better not act on it, however, unless it is warranted. And keep their mouths shut. It happens. We all know it happens. It's wrong, but there it is.
"A bird doesn't sing because it has an answer, it sings because it has a song." ~ Maya Angelou
To the best of my Knowledge, it was adopted from jail culture, they can't have belts, and ill fitting clothes usually make the pants droop! Rappers, btw, Some who had gone to jail, before, during and after their careers,adopted the "look" and since we are a media driven society, young people adopted it from them, the Rappers! It is now youth culture and has transcended racial and maturity divides! As I learned,I hate it too, but know enough to know the character of the wearer is much more important then their dress. It is Fades, like mu mus, Hawaiian shirts, leisure suits etc.
Quoting futureshock:Serious question, why does anyone dress like this in the first place?
Quoting charleyd68:WOWWWWWW.
Quoting mommy2b39465:no, but if a policeman sees a teenager with pants sagging halfway past his butt with a hoodie pulled over his head and his arms stuck in the pockets, he should be able to say 'that kid kinda looks suspicious, I think I'll stick around and keep an eye on him until he leaves the store....'
Quoting jewels5525:So then its ok to pull over all teenagers because they might have just robbed a store?
Quoting mommy2b39465:I agree with you, racially profiling should be used, in my opinion, when used by trained officials. I don't want another 911. I don't want a kid getting away from robbing a store because the police are afraid they might be considered to be profiling him. That shouldn't be a concern, they should be able to to see a potential threat and check it out.
In my Opininon No Disrespect
I think racial profiling is very ineffecient and inaccurate. Furthermore I think it is a violation of civil rights. I find it odd that anyone would take a stance that they haven't fully researched. Racial profiling is not the same as the type of profiling they are SUPPOSED to use in law enforcement.
Quoting mommy2b39465:I see what you mean, I did use the term 'racially profiling'. However, I tend to think of that in terms not of 'Oh that man is black, or white, or hispanic, he's suspicious!'. I tend to think of it as, I've heard that the attire listed below is often what a person is wearing when they rob a convenience store, because the hoodie helps cover their identity. There are other kinds of clothing and behavior, that especially when combined with certain races, highten the likelihood that the person might be up to trouble. I just think a policeman should be able to do his job without wondering if they are going to be attacked later for racially profiling a person. I'm not saying that a policeman has the right to, say, chase the person down for questioning, but I think that they should be able to, say, keep an eye on the person until they leave the convenience store. Not stalk, not cause trouble, just keep an eye on, without having to deal with politics afterwards.
Quoting Shortiekt:Please tell me how this attire can be contributed to a particular race...
Quoting mommy2b39465:no, but if a policeman sees a teenager with pants sagging halfway past his butt with a hoodie pulled over his head and his arms stuck in the pockets, he should be able to say 'that kid kinda looks suspicious, I think I'll stick around and keep an eye on him until he leaves the store....'
Quoting jewels5525:So then its ok to pull over all teenagers because they might have just robbed a store?
Quoting mommy2b39465:I agree with you, racially profiling should be used, in my opinion, when used by trained officials. I don't want another 911. I don't want a kid getting away from robbing a store because the police are afraid they might be considered to be profiling him. That shouldn't be a concern, they should be able to to see a potential threat and check it out.
Profile Justin Beeber...........
The style has been around for over 20 years, good gracious folks ...get with the program. It may not be for you and your house but it's just like any other youth style. Kids dye their hair blue too.
Oh he must be on heroin
Oh she must cut herself and worship the devil
Are you profiling the Earth/hippie folks for weed?
Quoting mommajen32:
Quoting mommy2b39465:I see what you mean, I did use the term 'racially profiling'. However, I tend to think of that in terms not of 'Oh that man is black, or white, or hispanic, he's suspicious!'. I tend to think of it as, I've heard that the attire listed below is often what a person is wearing when they rob a convenience store, because the hoodie helps cover their identity. There are other kinds of clothing and behavior, that especially when combined with certain races, highten the likelihood that the person might be up to trouble. I just think a policeman should be able to do his job without wondering if they are going to be attacked later for racially profiling a person. I'm not saying that a policeman has the right to, say, chase the person down for questioning, but I think that they should be able to, say, keep an eye on the person until they leave the convenience store. Not stalk, not cause trouble, just keep an eye on, without having to deal with politics afterwards.
Quoting Shortiekt:Please tell me how this attire can be contributed to a particular race...
Quoting mommy2b39465:no, but if a policeman sees a teenager with pants sagging halfway past his butt with a hoodie pulled over his head and his arms stuck in the pockets, he should be able to say 'that kid kinda looks suspicious, I think I'll stick around and keep an eye on him until he leaves the store....'
Quoting jewels5525:So then its ok to pull over all teenagers because they might have just robbed a store?
Quoting mommy2b39465:I agree with you, racially profiling should be used, in my opinion, when used by trained officials. I don't want another 911. I don't want a kid getting away from robbing a store because the police are afraid they might be considered to be profiling him. That shouldn't be a concern, they should be able to to see a potential threat and check it out.
Profile Justin Beeber...........
The style has been around for over 20 years, good gracious folks ...get with the program. It may not be for you and your house but it's just like any other youth style. Kids dye their hair blue too.
Oh he must be on heroin
Oh she must cut herself and worship the devil
Are you profiling the Earth/hippie folks for weed?
On the last two, if you dress the part don't be angry when you are assumed to participate in the stereotypes associated with that clothing/hairstyle. With the Justin Beeber pic, if I were a policeman I'd profile him just for fun. Personally, I'd enjoy coming up behind him and pulling his pants down. Maybe then, b/c he's a star other kids might realize how much of an idiot he looks wearing that and decide to wear decent clothing that covers their butt appropriately and that is not easily pulled to the ankles.
Holder to investigate....Holder
- Rocker-Momma
on May. 7, 2012 at 10:34 PM