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If you vote for gay marriage God will strike you dead

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Sodom and Greensboro

Vote for North Carolina’s amendment to ban gay marriage, or God will strike you dead.

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Opponents of gay marriage at a 2009 rally in San Francisco.

Photo by David Paul Morris/Getty Images

North Carolina is voting today on a state constitutional amendment to prohibit gay marriage. Actually, the amendment goes much further. By establishing that “marriage between one man and one woman is the only domestic legal union that shall be valid or recognized in this State,” it would invalidate all civil unions and domestic partnerships, regardless of orientation. If that’s not enough to worry you, opponents of the amendment are using this recorded phone message from Bill Clinton to turn voters against it:

What it will change is North Carolina’s ability to keep good businesses, attract new jobs, and attract and keep talented entrepreneurs.  If it passes, your ability to keep those businesses, get those jobs, and get those talented entrepreneurs will be weakened. … Its passage will also take away health insurance from children and could even take away domestic violence protections from women.

The coalition backing the amendment, Vote FOR Marriage NC, is denouncing this scare campaign. The coalition tells voters: “Make your decision on fact and not fear.” But just in case, the coalition and its allies are delivering a scarier message: Vote for the amendment, or you and your state will go to hell. Here’s a rundown of the campaign’s talking points.


1. Gay marriage will eliminate concern for children. “Every child born into a same-sex relationship is intentionally denied the love and affection of one of her biological parents,” the coalition argues. “Under a definition of marriage that is genderless, the interests of children … [are] eliminated entirely. Only the wishes of the two adults in question matter.”

2. Gay marriage will reduce procreation by heterosexual married couples. At a March 28 forum, coalition chairwoman Tami Fitzgerald alleged, “What gay marriage means is that fewer and fewer children are going to be raised by a married mother and father.” Fitzgerald didn’t explain the math or the mechanism. Perhaps some sort of distraction is involved.

3. Gay marriage will impoverish women and kids. According to the coalition, “When marriage ceases to have its historic meaning and understanding, over time fewer and fewer people will marry. We will have an inevitable increase in children born out of wedlock, an increase in fatherlessness, [and] a resulting increase in female and child poverty …” Apparently this is the causal sequence Fitzgerald has in mind: more marriages, therefore fewer marriages, and therefore, more starving children.

4. Gay marriage will destroy freedom.Gay marriage means the beginning of the end of religious freedom,” Fitzgerald predicted at the March 28 forum. The coalition elaborates:

Those who do not agree with this new definition of marriage … will be punished for their beliefs.  … Wedding professionals have been fined for refusing to participate in a same-sex ceremony. Christian innkeepers in Vermont and Illinois are being sued over their refusal to make their facilities available for same-sex weddings … A counselor, for example, could not refuse “marriage therapy” to a same-sex couple because she doesn’t believe in gay marriage. She’d put her licensure at risk.

The coalition offers no evidence or details for these allegations. The two stories I tracked down—the complaints in Vermont and Illinois—are based on public accommodations law, not on marriage law. So I wouldn’t put much stock in the rest of the coalition’s claims.

5. Gay marriage will weaken the economy. In support of the amendment, Mark Creech, executive director of the Christian Action League, says “mountains of social science research” show that “the well-being of children, the emotional and physical health of adults, and even the state of our workforce are all tethered in some way to the existence of stable one-man-and-one-woman marriages.” Somehow, gay marriage would undermine this foundation of productivity. The coalition contends: “If anything, the amendment will help our economy. States with a marriage protection amendment in their state constitution are some of our country’s top performing economic states.”

to read the rest:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/05/north_carolina_s_gay_marriage_amendment_a_right_wing_christian_scare_campaign_.html

by on May. 8, 2012 at 11:09 PM
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jaxTheMomm
by Platinum Member on May. 9, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Ugh, this is disgusting.

skyfire27
by Member on May. 9, 2012 at 8:21 PM
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I am so glad to hear I am not the only mom that feels there is nothing wrong with gay marriage. My uncle just recently came out (like we didn't suspect for years before this) but if the time comes if he feels he has found the right person...I would like to think ppl would be open minded enough to not mind. It is not like they are actually physically hurting anyone. He is just like everyone else, he pays taxes and votes just like everyone else. He goes to work everyday. The only difference is he just happens to like men. I just can not understand what these ppl who voted this down have against ppl. My sisters church has started a campaign to vote down the marriage equality bill in our state of Maryland. This is what I don't understand ( and I don't mean any offense to anyone or their religion) if you are a Christian...did you not learn in bible study or CCD that God loves all of us no matter what? Were they not sitting there when the teacher or the priest told us that we are all made in God's image? Therefore, if God loves us all for who we are and he created us in his image...how can they say that he denounces the marriage of  gay ppl? It seems kind of wrong if you ask me. I believe in God and pray to him every night but ppl like this are the reason I stopped going ot church.

futureshock
by Ruby Member on May. 9, 2012 at 8:22 PM


Quoting Taurus_Girl78:

 I live in NC I am glad gay marraiges are banned here. I think it is wrong and disgusting.

Why is it disgusting? If gay marriage was legal in your state how would it affect your life?

futureshock
by Ruby Member on May. 9, 2012 at 8:23 PM


Quoting Friday:

He's slacking, I voted for it years ago and I'm still here.

I made my decision based on facts, too bad they have none to offer.

lol @ slacking!!!

MeTaL_MoMmA_08
by on May. 9, 2012 at 8:26 PM
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ahhhhh, North Carolina... where you can legally marry your cousin, as long as it's not your gay cousin. *slaps forehead*

For real though... If god does exist, he's gonna strike me dead for worse things than supporting gay marriage.

futureshock
by Ruby Member on May. 9, 2012 at 8:31 PM
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Quoting Taurus_Girl78:

 

Quoting futureshock:


Quoting Taurus_Girl78:

 I live in NC I am glad gay marraiges are banned here. I think it is wrong and disgusting.

Why is it disgusting? If gay marriage was legal in your state how would it affect your life?

 Not going to affect my life at all. I am happily married to  my wonderful hard working husband.  I just think it is gross that woman is attracted to a woman and a man is attracted to a man.  I beleive a woman should be with a man like it states in the bible.

But that is not reality.  Reality is that some people ARE attracted to the same sex.  Since it will not impact your life at all why are you actively trying to cause pain and hardship for others by standing in the way of their marriage?

TCgirlatheart
by TC on May. 9, 2012 at 8:31 PM
Me too, and still standing myself...

Quoting NightPhoenix:

Well, I've voted for gay marriage and I'm still here. Either there's no "God", or he/she doesn't give a fuck about people in love getting hitched...



People against anything gay give me a headache.
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futureshock
by Ruby Member on May. 9, 2012 at 8:32 PM
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Me three. :)

Quoting TCgirlatheart:

Me too, and still standing myself...

Quoting NightPhoenix:

Well, I've voted for gay marriage and I'm still here. Either there's no "God", or he/she doesn't give a fuck about people in love getting hitched...



People against anything gay give me a headache.


MeTaL_MoMmA_08
by on May. 9, 2012 at 8:33 PM
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RIGHT!!! :D

But don't stop with Kim Kardashian; Britney Spears got married for 55 hours. Rush Limbaugh and Larry King have both been married 4 times. Liz Taylor was married like 5 times. Jessica Simpson married Nick Lachey b/c she wanted to have sex and "couldn't" till she was married (and look how that marriage ended up)... I'd say straight couples are doing a damn good job destroying the sanctity of marriage all by themselves.

Quoting Citygirlk:

Right so lets ban the gays from marrying cause we have to defend the santatiy of marrige but mean while people like kim kardashian can get married and divorced in 72 days. Give me a break.


Citygirlk
by Gold Member on May. 9, 2012 at 8:35 PM

yup! so if they can all can do that why cant gays get married.

Quoting MeTaL_MoMmA_08:

RIGHT!!! :D

But don't stop with Kim Kardashian; Britney Spears got married for 55 hours. Rush Limbaugh and Larry King have both been married 4 times. Liz Taylor was married like 5 times. Jessica Simpson married Nick Lachey b/c she wanted to have sex and "couldn't" till she was married (and look how that marriage ended up)... I'd say straight couples are doing a damn good job destroying the sanctity of marriage all by themselves.

Quoting Citygirlk:

Right so lets ban the gays from marrying cause we have to defend the santatiy of marrige but mean while people like kim kardashian can get married and divorced in 72 days. Give me a break.



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