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If you vote for gay marriage God will strike you dead

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Sodom and Greensboro

Vote for North Carolina’s amendment to ban gay marriage, or God will strike you dead.

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Opponents of gay marriage at a 2009 rally in San Francisco.

Photo by David Paul Morris/Getty Images

North Carolina is voting today on a state constitutional amendment to prohibit gay marriage. Actually, the amendment goes much further. By establishing that “marriage between one man and one woman is the only domestic legal union that shall be valid or recognized in this State,” it would invalidate all civil unions and domestic partnerships, regardless of orientation. If that’s not enough to worry you, opponents of the amendment are using this recorded phone message from Bill Clinton to turn voters against it:

What it will change is North Carolina’s ability to keep good businesses, attract new jobs, and attract and keep talented entrepreneurs.  If it passes, your ability to keep those businesses, get those jobs, and get those talented entrepreneurs will be weakened. … Its passage will also take away health insurance from children and could even take away domestic violence protections from women.

The coalition backing the amendment, Vote FOR Marriage NC, is denouncing this scare campaign. The coalition tells voters: “Make your decision on fact and not fear.” But just in case, the coalition and its allies are delivering a scarier message: Vote for the amendment, or you and your state will go to hell. Here’s a rundown of the campaign’s talking points.


1. Gay marriage will eliminate concern for children. “Every child born into a same-sex relationship is intentionally denied the love and affection of one of her biological parents,” the coalition argues. “Under a definition of marriage that is genderless, the interests of children … [are] eliminated entirely. Only the wishes of the two adults in question matter.”

2. Gay marriage will reduce procreation by heterosexual married couples. At a March 28 forum, coalition chairwoman Tami Fitzgerald alleged, “What gay marriage means is that fewer and fewer children are going to be raised by a married mother and father.” Fitzgerald didn’t explain the math or the mechanism. Perhaps some sort of distraction is involved.

3. Gay marriage will impoverish women and kids. According to the coalition, “When marriage ceases to have its historic meaning and understanding, over time fewer and fewer people will marry. We will have an inevitable increase in children born out of wedlock, an increase in fatherlessness, [and] a resulting increase in female and child poverty …” Apparently this is the causal sequence Fitzgerald has in mind: more marriages, therefore fewer marriages, and therefore, more starving children.

4. Gay marriage will destroy freedom.Gay marriage means the beginning of the end of religious freedom,” Fitzgerald predicted at the March 28 forum. The coalition elaborates:

Those who do not agree with this new definition of marriage … will be punished for their beliefs.  … Wedding professionals have been fined for refusing to participate in a same-sex ceremony. Christian innkeepers in Vermont and Illinois are being sued over their refusal to make their facilities available for same-sex weddings … A counselor, for example, could not refuse “marriage therapy” to a same-sex couple because she doesn’t believe in gay marriage. She’d put her licensure at risk.

The coalition offers no evidence or details for these allegations. The two stories I tracked down—the complaints in Vermont and Illinois—are based on public accommodations law, not on marriage law. So I wouldn’t put much stock in the rest of the coalition’s claims.

5. Gay marriage will weaken the economy. In support of the amendment, Mark Creech, executive director of the Christian Action League, says “mountains of social science research” show that “the well-being of children, the emotional and physical health of adults, and even the state of our workforce are all tethered in some way to the existence of stable one-man-and-one-woman marriages.” Somehow, gay marriage would undermine this foundation of productivity. The coalition contends: “If anything, the amendment will help our economy. States with a marriage protection amendment in their state constitution are some of our country’s top performing economic states.”

to read the rest:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/05/north_carolina_s_gay_marriage_amendment_a_right_wing_christian_scare_campaign_.html

by on May. 8, 2012 at 11:09 PM
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seekingg-d
by on May. 9, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Three words that will save the economy... Gay Wedding Registry!!

NightPhoenix
by Member on May. 9, 2012 at 9:01 PM
Being against gay rights is like saying 2+2= Tuna. Not only is it wrong, but complete nonsense!
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kailu1835
by Ruby Member on May. 9, 2012 at 9:02 PM
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 This is a little over the top.  Denying same sex couples' children, or unmarried couples' children the right to be with both parents?  This doesn't say that two people of the same sex can't live together.  It says they're not legally recognized as a couple, which is still stupid.  And marriage has already long lost its historical meaning of exchange of property.  People in the country marry for love, not because the man bought her with cows and horses (or I suppose an equivelent would be a car or something).  Marriage never used to be about love.

rliperote2
by Member on May. 9, 2012 at 9:02 PM
Omg lol!!!

Quoting seekingg-d:

Three words that will save the economy... Gay Wedding Registry!!

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Della529
by Matlock on May. 9, 2012 at 9:05 PM

 Thing is, if churchians are going to use these media visuals with their interpretation of certain scriptures, they might want to look at the laws in scripture they aren't following.

Quoting rliperote2:

Lol I knw right the whitest people they could find !!!

Quoting Della529:

 I think the use of two very light skinned, blondes is interesting.  I also think it's interesting that the male's hair is close cropped...let's talk more about LEVITICUS.


Quoting rliperote2:

I think your disgusting !!!!


Quoting Taurus_Girl78:


 I live in NC I am glad gay marraiges are banned here. I think it is wrong and disgusting.


 

 

Della529
by Matlock on May. 9, 2012 at 9:07 PM

 Wha?

Quoting kailu1835:

 This is a little over the top.  Denying same sex couples' children, or unmarried couples' children the right to be with both parents?  This doesn't say that two people of the same sex can't live together.  It says they're not legally recognized as a couple, which is still stupid.  And marriage has already long lost its historical meaning of exchange of property.  People in the country marry for love, not because the man bought her with cows and horses (or I suppose an equivelent would be a car or something).  Marriage never used to be about love.

 

rliperote2
by Member on May. 9, 2012 at 9:10 PM
Oh I agree biggest issues with me is how many times the bible says nOt to judge each other.

Quoting Della529:

 Thing is, if churchians are going to use these media visuals with their interpretation of certain scriptures, they might want to look at the laws in scripture they aren't following.


Quoting rliperote2:

Lol I knw right the whitest people they could find !!!


Quoting Della529:


 I think the use of two very light skinned, blondes is interesting.  I also think it's interesting that the male's hair is close cropped...let's talk more about LEVITICUS.



Quoting rliperote2:

I think your disgusting !!!!



Quoting Taurus_Girl78:



 I live in NC I am glad gay marraiges are banned here. I think it is wrong and disgusting.



 


 

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Della529
by Matlock on May. 9, 2012 at 9:14 PM
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Quoting FromAtoZ:


Quoting ReginaStar:

I have not seen anywhere in that bible that says God wants his followers to enforce his laws (although the laws the bible list being Gods is completely debatable) so if anyone will be judged on judgement day it will be those who think they are almighter than God himself to take free will from his people. God wants us to choose, that's the whole reason he gave us choice.

This bears repeating.

Although, no doubt, many will never understand this.

 I understand it and believe it. 

And I agree, many will never understand the principal of free will.  They'll simply keep following what their church or pastor TELLS them, all without question.

ihatetocook
by on May. 9, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Idiotic how some people think that a vote for equality somehow damages others.  

bozobean
by Bronze Member on May. 9, 2012 at 9:16 PM
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I went to my favorite former college professor's gay wedding, when he married his significant other just before prop 8 passed, banning it again in California. He had been with his s/o for 40 years before finally getting married. He should write a book on how to stay in a relationship for that long, and a lot of straight people should buy and read it. I know i'd be getting his autograph on my copy :)

Quoting MeTaL_MoMmA_08:

RIGHT!!! :D

But don't stop with Kim Kardashian; Britney Spears got married for 55 hours. Rush Limbaugh and Larry King have both been married 4 times. Liz Taylor was married like 5 times. Jessica Simpson married Nick Lachey b/c she wanted to have sex and "couldn't" till she was married (and look how that marriage ended up)... I'd say straight couples are doing a damn good job destroying the sanctity of marriage all by themselves.

Quoting Citygirlk:

Right so lets ban the gays from marrying cause we have to defend the santatiy of marrige but mean while people like kim kardashian can get married and divorced in 72 days. Give me a break.


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