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Pro-Choice White House Requires Registration of Unborn Children for Tours

Posted by on May. 9, 2012 at 9:22 AM
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No Birth Certificate Required

Pro-Choice White House Requires Registration of Unborn Children for Tours
AP

AP

BY: - May 8, 2012 1:11 pm

The White House Visitors Office requires that an unborn child-still residing in utero-must be counted as a full human being when its parents register for a White House tour, according to documents obtained by the Washington Free Beacon.

White House Visitors Office director Ellie Schafer sent an email to a Capitol Hill staffer Tuesday morning explaining the process for registering an unborn fetus for a White House tour:

We have received a number of calls regarding how to enter security information for a baby that has not yet been born.

Crazy as it may sound, you MUST include the baby in the overall count of guests in the tour. It's an easy process.

LAST NAME: The family's last name

  • FIRST NAME: "Baby" as a first name
  • MIDDLE NAME: NMN as in No Middle Name
  • DOB: Use the date you are submitting the request to us as their birthday
  • GENDER: if the parents know put that gender down if not, you can enter either M or F as we'll ask you to update it at the time of birth
  • SOCIAL: As they will not have a SSN and are under 18, you will not need to enter this field. Again if the spreadsheet asked for a social enter 9 zero's (not the word nine zeros but 000000000 and yes it happens!)
  • CITIZEN/CITY/STATE: The citizen, city and state should be entered the same as the parents

Update: The National Right to Life Committee released a statement on Tuesday afternoon about Shafer's email, highlighting the fact that the "Obama White House recognizes [a] ‘baby that has not been born' for White House security purposes, but tolerates legal abortion to [the] moment 
of birth in District of Columbia."

http://freebeacon.com/no-birth-certificate-required/

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candlegal
by Judy on May. 9, 2012 at 9:29 AM

interesting

Veni.Vidi.Vici.
by on May. 9, 2012 at 9:32 AM
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White House Tours Do Not Require Fetuses To Be Counted As Full Humans

Posted: 05/08/2012 6:24 pm Updated: 05/08/2012 6:33 pm

WASHINGTON -- Pregnant women are not required to count their fetuses as full human beings when registering for White House tours, contrary to some reports suggesting otherwise, the Secret Service said.

The Washington Free Beacon on Tuesday posted a copy of an email from White House Visitors Office director Ellie Schafer to a Capitol Hill staffer explaining the process for registering for a tour of the White House. The email indicates that pregnant women must include a baby in the count of guests if the child is expected to be born by the time of the tour, a line that some conservative news outlets say is akin to a pro-choice White House treating fetuses as people.

"We have received a number of calls regarding how to enter security information for a baby that has not yet been born. Crazy as it may sound, you MUST include the baby in the overall count of guests in the tour. It’s an easy process," Schafer wrote.

The email goes on to explain how to prepare for the tour: Provide the family's last name and use "Baby" as a first name. For date of birth, visitors are instructed to put the date of the request for the tour. Parents are asked to put M or F for the gender and update it at the time of birth. And since there wouldn't be a Social Security number yet, parents are instructed to enter 9 zeros.

"[N]ot the word nine zeros but 000000000 and yes it happens!" Schafer wrote.

Her email concludes with a note that, once the baby is born, the parents should email the White House Visitors Office to update their reservation with the baby's name, birthday and gender.

Max Milien, a spokesman for White House Secret Security, said it's not accurate to say that fetuses are counted as people on White House tours.

This notation device "simply serves as a placeholder for the baby once it's born," Milien said. "All White House guests are required to provide information at the time of their request for the tour, including for children and infants, and those expected to be on the tour once born."

Milien said the White House has thousands of visitors every day and that people sign up for tours months in advance, often canceling and rescheduling. By having a placeholder ready for a baby-to-be, it prevents delays when people might otherwise show up for the tour with a child not previously listed, he said.

"This policy was implemented so if you want to bring your children on a tour, we can account for them," he said.

Milien declined to weigh in on specific news reports suggesting the White House is treating fetuses as people. A White House aide also declined to comment, instead deferring the matter to the Secret Service.

Veni.Vidi.Vici.
by on May. 9, 2012 at 9:33 AM
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BOO-YAH

_Kissy_
by on May. 9, 2012 at 9:36 AM

This notation device "simply serves as a placeholder for the baby once it's born," Milien said. "All White House guests are required to provide information at the time of their request for the tour, including for children and infants, and those expected to be on the tour once born."

Milien said the White House has thousands of visitors every day and that people sign up for tours months in advance, often canceling and rescheduling. By having a placeholder ready for a baby-to-be, it prevents delays when people might otherwise show up for the tour with a child not previously listed, he said.

Raintree
by Ruby Member on May. 9, 2012 at 9:46 AM

BUMP!

jllcali
by Jane on May. 9, 2012 at 9:52 AM
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Only if they baby is expected to be born by the time of the tour. Why am I not surprised the article in the OP left that little piece of information out?

Quoting Veni.Vidi.Vici.:


White House Tours Do Not Require Fetuses To Be Counted As Full Humans









Posted: 05/08/2012 6:24 pm Updated: 05/08/2012 6:33 pm
























WASHINGTON -- Pregnant women are not
required to count their fetuses as full human beings when registering
for White House tours, contrary to some reports suggesting otherwise, the Secret Service said.



The Washington Free Beacon on Tuesday posted a copy of an
email from White House Visitors Office director Ellie Schafer to a
Capitol Hill staffer explaining the process for registering for a tour
of the White House. The email indicates that pregnant women must include
a baby in the count of guests if the child is expected to be born by
the time of the tour, a line that some conservative news outlets say is akin to a pro-choice White House treating fetuses as people.



"We have received a number of calls regarding how to enter security
information for a baby that has not yet been born. Crazy as it may
sound, you MUST include the baby in the overall count of guests in the
tour. It’s an easy process," Schafer wrote.



The email goes on to explain how to prepare for the tour: Provide the
family's last name and use "Baby" as a first name. For date of birth,
visitors are instructed to put the date of the request for the tour.
Parents are asked to put M or F for the gender and update it at the time
of birth. And since there wouldn't be a Social Security number yet,
parents are instructed to enter 9 zeros.



"[N]ot the word nine zeros but 000000000 and yes it happens!" Schafer wrote.



Her email concludes with a note that, once the baby is born, the
parents should email the White House Visitors Office to update their
reservation with the baby's name, birthday and gender.



Max Milien, a spokesman for White House Secret Security, said it's
not accurate to say that fetuses are counted as people on White House
tours.



This notation device "simply serves as a placeholder for the baby
once it's born," Milien said. "All White House guests are required to
provide information at the time of their request for the tour, including
for children and infants, and those expected to be on the tour once
born."



Milien said the White House has thousands of visitors every day and
that people sign up for tours months in advance, often canceling and
rescheduling. By having a placeholder ready for a baby-to-be, it
prevents delays when people might otherwise show up for the tour with a
child not previously listed, he said.



"This policy was implemented so if you want to bring your children on a tour, we can account for them," he said.



Milien declined to weigh in on specific news reports suggesting the
White House is treating fetuses as people. A White House aide also
declined to comment, instead deferring the matter to the Secret Service.

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Woodbabe
by Woodie on May. 9, 2012 at 10:19 AM

*snicker*

Arroree
by Ruby Member on May. 9, 2012 at 12:25 PM
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Quoting Woodbabe:

*snicker*

Heck with a snicker, this calls for an all out sidesplittinglaughter

jewels5525
by Gold Member on May. 9, 2012 at 12:30 PM

Nice try, LOL

Della529
by Matlock on May. 9, 2012 at 12:35 PM

 

Quoting Arroree:

 

Quoting Woodbabe:

*snicker*

Heck with a snicker, this calls for an all out sidesplittinglaughter

 DITTO!

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