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Obama Tells Donors Health-Care Fight May Loom After Court Rules

Posted by on Jun. 1, 2012 at 8:25 AM
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President Barack Obama is confiding to Democratic donors that he may have to revisit the health-care issue in a second term, a position at odds with his publicly expressed confidence that the U.S. Supreme Court will uphold the Affordable Care Act, according to three Democratic activists.

President Barack Obama speaks during a campaign fundraising event on May 14 in New York. Photo: Mandel Ngan/AFP via Getty Images

June 1 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama is confiding to his donors that he may be forced to revisit health care reform in his second term, if the Supreme Court rules against him. Bloomberg's Hans Nichols reports. (Source: Bloomberg)

As he previewed his agenda for donors at a May 14 fundraiser, Obama said he may be forced to try to revise parts of his health-care plan, depending on how the court rules later this month, said one activist, who requested anonymity to discuss the president’s comments. Guests at the $35,800-a-plate dinner in the Manhattan apartment of Blackstone Group LP (BX) President Tony James were asked to check their smart phones and BlackBerries at the door.

The president has made similar remarks, usually in response to questions, at other fundraising events since the Supreme Court heard arguments in the case during the last week of March, according to two other activists, who also requested anonymity.

Obama’s answers, which begin with the president repeating his contention that the high court will uphold the law, have led some contributors to conclude the White House is making contingency plans should the justices strike down parts of the law, which would give Republicans a powerful talking point about one of his signature issues.

A challenge by 26 states centers on the law’s requirement that individuals purchase health insurance or face a penalty.

Outside Groups

While Obama is discussing with wealthy donors the prospect of a rebuke from the court, administration officials are coordinating with health-care-reform groups on how to manage their public response in the aftermath of the decision.

“While I won’t discuss in detail the president’s private conversations, I can say that your reporting, attributed to unnamed sources, inaccurately reflects the president’s views,” Jay Carney, Obama’s spokesman, said in an e-mail.

On April 3, Obama professed “enormous confidence” the law is constitutional and “the court is going to exercise its jurisprudence carefully,” in response to a question at the Associated Press’s annual meeting. A day earlier, he said the Supreme Court would have to take “an unprecedented, extraordinary step” to throw out “a law that was passed by a strong majority” in Congress.

Yet a planning memo, including a reminder that it’s important “to continue projecting confidence that the court will uphold the law,” was discussed at a May 29 meeting hosted by a group called Protect Your Care, attended by officials from the White House and Department of Health and Human Services, said one of the attendees, who requested anonymity to discuss a private meeting.

Staging Events

“The best way to demonstrate public outrage or public celebration about the decision is to stage an event that shows average people actually responding to the news,” according to the memo, e-mailed on May 16 by an official at the Herndon Alliance, a coalition of groups that backs the health-care overhaul.

“The White House is obviously very involved in this stuff,” said Bob Crittenden, executive director of the Herndon Alliance. “Some of the groups we work with have very close connections with the White House.”

Nick Papas, a White House spokesman, and Anton Gunn, director of external affairs at Health and Human Services, make regular appearances at the Protect Your Care meetings, which are held every other week.

Private Meetings

Last week, Gunn and Hilary Haycock from the White House attended, along with representatives from Families USA, Health Care for America Now, the Center for American Progress and labor organizations including the Service Employees International Union and American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees.

“There’s a really strong feeling that getting out there and trying to do contingency planning out in public is not a very smart thing to do,” said Crittenden, also a professor of medicine at the University of Washington. “What we really want to do is to make sure that everyone is prepared to talk about the law when it comes up.”

Based on the tone of the justices’ questions to the lawyers arguing the case, some of the law’s supporters are concerned that the court will strike down the requirement that uninsured individuals purchase health insurance or else pay a fine.

Overturning Mandate

“The odds are that it’s slightly more likely to overturn the individual mandate,” said Richard Kirsch, a senior fellow at the Roosevelt Institute and the former campaign manager for Health Care for America Now, a group that fought for the overhaul. After the court makes its ruling, “one of the battles will be to define what’s happened.”

Even if the mandate is removed, supporters of the law should organize media events to have “people who continue to benefit from the law to tell their stories,” said Kirsch, author of “Fighting for Our Health: The Epic Battle to Make Health Care a Right in the United States.”

Public opinion is divided on the different parts of the law, said Bob Blendon, an associate dean at the Harvard School of Public Health.

“Nobody wants the whole bill thrown out,” he said. “Nobody wants the bill as it is. The majority would be happy if the mandate disappeared.”

While Republicans, including Mitt Romney, their presumptive presidential nominee, would “gain a little” if the mandate is removed, they may be forced to offer another plan to cover those with pre-existing conditions, Blendon said. “If the bill is upheld, it’s a real boost for the president.”

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candlegal
by Judy on Jun. 1, 2012 at 8:33 AM
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If the court rules in his favor, if he gets a second term. What if the court rules against obamacare and what if he doesn't get a second term?

Hope he has a contingency plan for both.

gsprofval
by on Jun. 1, 2012 at 9:32 PM
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Just hope his "contingency" plan doesn't involve any of us!

12hellokitty
by Platinum Member on Jun. 1, 2012 at 9:54 PM


Quoting candlegal:

If the court rules in his favor, if he gets a second term. What if the court rules against obamacare and what if he doesn't get a second term?

Hope he has a contingency plan for both.


According to Pelosi the answer to you questions is 6-3....

 

 

 

yourspecialkid
by Platinum Member on Jun. 1, 2012 at 9:57 PM
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 I wonder if he has started sending out resumes. 

I think striking down the mandate would be a big win as well.  Without the mandate there is no money.

Sat.Wed
by Bronze Member on Jun. 1, 2012 at 10:08 PM
Parts of it are allready in place, even if the mandate is thrown out ACA will not fall BUT if you all like the statues(sp) quo where INSURANCE compaines DETERMINED if your life saving surgery is elective or not, and they can go back to GOUGEING people even more and DENYING childern in the WOMB (true story happened to me)


Quoting yourspecialkid:

 I wonder if he has started sending out resumes. 


I think striking down the mandate would be a big win as well.  Without the mandate there is no money.


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yourspecialkid
by Platinum Member on Jun. 1, 2012 at 10:28 PM

 

Quoting Sat.Wed:

Parts of it are allready in place, even if the mandate is thrown out ACA will not fall BUT if you all like the statues(sp) quo where INSURANCE compaines DETERMINED if your life saving surgery is elective or not, and they can go back to GOUGEING people even more and DENYING childern in the WOMB (true story happened to me)


Quoting yourspecialkid:

 I wonder if he has started sending out resumes. 


I think striking down the mandate would be a big win as well.  Without the mandate there is no money.


 

I guess you haven't read the law.  The law depends on the mandate to fund it.  Are you happy that this law gives insurance companies a big payout?  Did you even realize it did?  This law is about requiring everyone to be INSURED not everyone getting care.  They could have managed that by expanding Medicaid, by allowing insurance to be sold across state lines, by putting limits on malpractice claims....so many many things.  The insurance companies were on board with this.....why do you think that is?

I could tell you a horror story of pregnancy and childbirth...mine involved the govt provided insurance Tricare.

Sat.Wed
by Bronze Member on Jun. 1, 2012 at 10:40 PM
How would YOU like some dumbass insurance company claims person BLAMING you for yoj
ur childs issue and says " Get an abortion and try again and this time try not to screw it up" then come talk to me So are you not for what ROMNEY did in MA? ACA is the EXCAT same thing are you just mad cause a Dem is TRYING or because he is BLACK? IF not for MY sentor I would be DROWNING in medical debt,yea the easy answer is expand medicaid BUT then you still get the why should I and umm Look at places that have some type of universal care and they are doing well, Yes the US has some of the best "medicine" in world YET we are ranked 28th in caring for our own what is wrong with this picture? ( and no need to get a damn additude with me, I have a special needs child so I KNOW wtf Im talking about)


Quoting yourspecialkid:

 


Quoting Sat.Wed:

Parts of it are allready in place, even if the mandate is thrown out ACA will not fall BUT if you all like the statues(sp) quo where INSURANCE compaines DETERMINED if your life saving surgery is elective or not, and they can go back to GOUGEING people even more and DENYING childern in the WOMB (true story happened to me)



Quoting yourspecialkid:


 I wonder if he has started sending out resumes. 



I think striking down the mandate would be a big win as well.  Without the mandate there is no money.



 


I guess you haven't read the law.  The law depends on the mandate to fund it.  Are you happy that this law gives insurance companies a big payout?  Did you even realize it did?  This law is about requiring everyone to be INSURED not everyone getting care.  They could have managed that by expanding Medicaid, by allowing insurance to be sold across state lines, by putting limits on malpractice claims....so many many things.  The insurance companies were on board with this.....why do you think that is?


I could tell you a horror story of pregnancy and childbirth...mine involved the govt provided insurance Tricare.


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grandmab125
by Gold Member on Jun. 1, 2012 at 11:29 PM
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Quoting 12hellokitty:

 

Quoting candlegal:

If the court rules in his favor, if he gets a second term. What if the court rules against obamacare and what if he doesn't get a second term?

Hope he has a contingency plan for both.


According to Pelosi the answer to you questions is 6-3....

 

 

 

And to think there are tens millions of people out there who think she's right.  Half of the time when she's speaking, she looks and sounds like she's high....because she makes absolutely no sense.  I don't know how she ever got elected to Congress, let alone became Speaker of the House.  The woman is a complete moron.  This is the woman who said "We'll know what's in the bill after it's signed." or something to that effect.  Can you imagine, all of those congressmen/women and senators voting on bills they never read?  That's how we get so many crappy bills in this country.

grandma B

grandmab125
by Gold Member on Jun. 1, 2012 at 11:32 PM


Quoting Sat.Wed:

How would YOU like some dumbass insurance company claims person BLAMING you for yoj
ur childs issue and says " Get an abortion and try again and this time try not to screw it up" then come talk to me So are you not for what ROMNEY did in MA? ACA is the EXCAT same thing are you just mad cause a Dem is TRYING or because he is BLACK? IF not for MY sentor I would be DROWNING in medical debt,yea the easy answer is expand medicaid BUT then you still get the why should I and umm Look at places that have some type of universal care and they are doing well, Yes the US has some of the best "medicine" in world YET we are ranked 28th in caring for our own what is wrong with this picture? ( and no need to get a damn additude with me, I have a special needs child so I KNOW wtf Im talking about)


Quoting yourspecialkid:

 


Quoting Sat.Wed:

Parts of it are allready in place, even if the mandate is thrown out ACA will not fall BUT if you all like the statues(sp) quo where INSURANCE compaines DETERMINED if your life saving surgery is elective or not, and they can go back to GOUGEING people even more and DENYING childern in the WOMB (true story happened to me)



Quoting yourspecialkid:


 I wonder if he has started sending out resumes. 



I think striking down the mandate would be a big win as well.  Without the mandate there is no money.



 


I guess you haven't read the law.  The law depends on the mandate to fund it.  Are you happy that this law gives insurance companies a big payout?  Did you even realize it did?  This law is about requiring everyone to be INSURED not everyone getting care.  They could have managed that by expanding Medicaid, by allowing insurance to be sold across state lines, by putting limits on malpractice claims....so many many things.  The insurance companies were on board with this.....why do you think that is?


I could tell you a horror story of pregnancy and childbirth...mine involved the govt provided insurance Tricare.


I am truly sorry for the problems you had with your insurance company.  But do you honestly think a gov't appointed panel of civilians, not drs, is going to make good decisions on our health care.  Those decisions will be based on cost and cost only.  You and your doctors will have no say in the matter.

grandma B

Sat.Wed
by Bronze Member on Jun. 2, 2012 at 12:59 AM
Dont tell me lies about being sorry it WAS "civilains" that said they would not cover my daughter, BCBS is horrid but I have NO choice snicethey control about 90% of the state, but anyways YOU didnt answer my question, We the US "supposedly" have the best healthcare YET we are Ranked 28th in the world and 60-65% of Americans are obese yet we do NOTHING to help our own yet whine and complain about crap, yes malpratice needs to be reigned in BUT when you have law firms that sue ANYTHING medical 1800 BAD DRUG ring a bell? besides ACA is based off of Romneys MA bill he signed Now my next question How many of you live in a state that has a BALANCED budget? I do, and previous poster there are 56 different medicaids tell me EXACTLY which one they should expand? My state has ALL 56 medicaids and we DONT have fraud Medicare not in awhile, So IF ACA is not good whats YOUR suggestion that will ACTUALLY WORK? hmmm?


Quoting grandmab125:



Quoting Sat.Wed:

How would YOU like some dumbass insurance company claims person BLAMING you for yoj
ur childs issue and says " Get an abortion and try again and this time try not to screw it up" then come talk to me So are you not for what ROMNEY did in MA? ACA is the EXCAT same thing are you just mad cause a Dem is TRYING or because he is BLACK? IF not for MY sentor I would be DROWNING in medical debt,yea the easy answer is expand medicaid BUT then you still get the why should I and umm Look at places that have some type of universal care and they are doing well, Yes the US has some of the best "medicine" in world YET we are ranked 28th in caring for our own what is wrong with this picture? ( and no need to get a damn additude with me, I have a special needs child so I KNOW wtf Im talking about)



Quoting yourspecialkid:


 



Quoting Sat.Wed:

Parts of it are allready in place, even if the mandate is thrown out ACA will not fall BUT if you all like the statues(sp) quo where INSURANCE compaines DETERMINED if your life saving surgery is elective or not, and they can go back to GOUGEING people even more and DENYING childern in the WOMB (true story happened to me)




Quoting yourspecialkid:



 I wonder if he has started sending out resumes. 




I think striking down the mandate would be a big win as well.  Without the mandate there is no money.




 



I guess you haven't read the law.  The law depends on the mandate to fund it.  Are you happy that this law gives insurance companies a big payout?  Did you even realize it did?  This law is about requiring everyone to be INSURED not everyone getting care.  They could have managed that by expanding Medicaid, by allowing insurance to be sold across state lines, by putting limits on malpractice claims....so many many things.  The insurance companies were on board with this.....why do you think that is?



I could tell you a horror story of pregnancy and childbirth...mine involved the govt provided insurance Tricare.



I am truly sorry for the problems you had with your insurance company.  But do you honestly think a gov't appointed panel of civilians, not drs, is going to make good decisions on our health care.  Those decisions will be based on cost and cost only.  You and your doctors will have no say in the matter.


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