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I would like to see the statistics of Illegal Immigrants granted legal rights as illegal immigrants to open, own, and operate businesses in the United States of America and why I cannot find anything regards to Business ownership and entrepreneurs in my business book about Illegal Immigrant Entrepreneurship and Opportunities.

Could someone please point out how illegal immigrants become part of the American Entrepreneur and own and operate businesses in our own country?


EDITED AND ADDED
This post is about illegals that enter the country illegally and open and operate and run a business in the USA. This is NOT about people that came on a VISA were or once legally here with permission running a business.

How does one enter illegally, live here illegally, and open and operate/run a legit/legal business in the USA?


by on Jun. 8, 2012 at 5:01 PM
Replies (201-207):
LadyByrdNest
by on Jun. 9, 2012 at 12:30 PM

chickI thought you had some baby birds to devour? 

Della529
by Matlock on Jun. 9, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Wanted to give you and a few others "KUDDOS" for your responses in this thread - Excellent responses, ladies.

Yes, there is a great deal of information at the IRS website.

Same with the SBA.

Starting a Business in the U.S. as a Foreign National

by NicoleD, Former Moderator

  • Created: June 8, 2009, 5:53 pm
  • Updated: June 13, 2011, 10:14 am

Breaking into the U.S. market can be a rewarding venture for many foreign businesses. Because U.S. citizenship and residency are not required, foreign nationals are able to start or expand on U.S. soil without experiencing much more red-tape than an American-born business owner would.

 Steps to Starting Up a Foreign Business in the U.S.:

 

Foreign business entities are incorporated at the state level in the U.S. The process will vary from state-to-state, but generally involves two steps: applying to register in that particular state, and establishing a registered agent with a valid address in that state (no PO Box numbers). A registered agent can be either the business owner or another person who is authorized to receive legal papers on behalf of the business, such as an attorney or secretary.

  • The rest of the steps to starting up are similar to those that an American citizen would take. The breakdown of 10 Steps to Starting a Business includes information on naming your business, requirement licenses and permits, and tax matters.
  • Establishing an online retail presence in the U.S. is a popular choice for many foreign business owners. You can read more about general resources for online businesses, including privacy and advertising regulations, here , along with specific information on international sales.

Importing Goods into the U.S.:

 

  • The Department of Commerce's Trade Information Center provides information and web links to importation procedures.
  • Working with a licensed customs broker could be a valuable asset to your import plan. A customs broker prepares all the documentation required for importing goods. To learn about laws and regulations applying to custom brokers, including licensing requirements, and importing procedures, visit the Transportation and Logistics Guide.
  • Many imported and exported products are regulated by federal agencies and may require specific licenses and permits. Check here to see if you need to obtain additional paperwork.

U.S. Tax information for Foreign Businesses:  

  • The U.S. tax code can be confusing even to life-long citizens. Violation of any tax - sales, payroll, income, etc. - can incur fees and penalties. The IRS offers a guide specifically on International Business,  but if you are still left with more questions, it is always safe to check with a qualified attorney or accountant.
  • U.S. citizens will likely need an Employment Identification Number to start up, a process that requires their social security number (SSN). In the case of foreign businesses, an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) will suffice. The IRS issues these 9-digit tax processing numbers to individuals who are required to pay US taxes but who are ineligible for a SSN, including resident and non-resident aliens and foreign nationals.
  • You may be required to file IRS Form 5472, which applies to US corporations with at least one foreign owner who owns 25% of shares, to account for the nature of monetary transactions.
  • There are also special tax credits and incentives available to businesses, including foreign tax treaties. The IRS offers a tax treaty overview and resources here.

Edited for formatting issues.

 http://www.sba.gov/community/blogs/community-blogs/business-law-advisor/starting-business-us-foreign-national

 

Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:

Actually, I found the info and it's submitted through the IRS. I thought it was the soc sec admn.

Quoting Della529:

 Are you sure you mean the SSA (Social Security Administration), or do you mean the SBA (Small Business Administration)?

 


Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:

Government isn't involved in the private sale of a business from one man to another in most cases - you should know that. As for obtaining ITINs, I'm not exactly sure how they get one but there is information on the SSA website on how to obtain them. I also thought at one time that they weren't contributing to the tax base, until one CMer found the info and explained it very well. She worked for the SSA.

It's not just Mexicans, but illegals of several races do it.



Quoting iluv2meow:


So let me get this straight, OUR government is purposely giving ILLEGAL immigrants permission to own and run businesses (as illegal aliens) and they are perfectly OK with that? WTF?

 


Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:

Somehow, they get ITINs in place of SSNs. Also, money doesn't seem to be a problem. In NYC, they have money coops in their communities and lend money to one another.



As for purchasing businesses, it doesn't take much to buy a laundry, or a deli. If they do have ITINs, they can file returns.



It gets done, maybe not above board, but it gets done.





Quoting iluv2meow:


Hmm sounds like a lot of theories regards to ILLEGALS owning businesses in America and really there was absolutely nothing explaining how Illegals are legally running these businesses. What type of ID are they using? How do they file their taxes? How does the government not know they are ILLEGAL when filing taxes for their businesses? Why is it that they are being granted permission to run and open businesses illegally in this country?

 


I have absolutely NOTHING against immigrants running and operating businesses in America we got tons of them and we also run businesses in other countries, but shit at least they are legal and many of our business owners are running legally in other countries.

 


 

 

 

 

JoshRachelsMAMA
by JRM on Jun. 9, 2012 at 3:08 PM
Thank you Del.

Quoting Della529:

Wanted to give you and a few others "KUDDOS" for your responses in this thread - Excellent responses, ladies.


Yes, there is a great deal of information at the IRS website.


Same with the SBA.



Starting a Business in the U.S. as a Foreign National





by NicoleD, Former Moderator






  • Created: June 8, 2009, 5:53 pm

  • Updated: June 13, 2011, 10:14 am



Breaking into the U.S. market can be a rewarding venture for many foreign businesses. Because U.S. citizenship and residency are not required, foreign nationals are able to start or expand on U.S. soil without experiencing much more red-tape than an American-born business owner would.

 Steps to Starting Up a Foreign Business in the U.S.:




 


Foreign business entities are incorporated at the state level in the U.S. The process will vary from state-to-state, but generally involves two steps: applying to register in that particular state, and establishing a registered agent with a valid address in that state (no PO Box numbers). A registered agent can be either the business owner or another person who is authorized to receive legal papers on behalf of the business, such as an attorney or secretary.



  • The rest of the steps to starting up are similar to those that an American citizen would take. The breakdown of 10 Steps to Starting a Business includes information on naming your business, requirement licenses and permits, and tax matters.

  • Establishing an online retail presence in the U.S. is a popular choice for many foreign business owners. You can read more about general resources for online businesses, including privacy and advertising regulations, here , along with specific information on international sales.

Importing Goods into the U.S.:

 



  • The Department of Commerce's Trade Information Center provides information and web links to importation procedures.

  • Working with a licensed customs broker could be a valuable asset to your import plan. A customs broker prepares all the documentation required for importing goods. To learn about laws and regulations applying to custom brokers, including licensing requirements, and importing procedures, visit the Transportation and Logistics Guide.

  • Many imported and exported products are regulated by federal agencies and may require specific licenses and permits. Check here to see if you need to obtain additional paperwork.


U.S. Tax information for Foreign Businesses:  



  • The U.S. tax code can be confusing even to life-long citizens. Violation of any tax - sales, payroll, income, etc. - can incur fees and penalties. The IRS offers a guide specifically on International Business,  but if you are still left with more questions, it is always safe to check with a qualified attorney or accountant.

  • U.S. citizens will likely need an Employment Identification Number to start up, a process that requires their social security number (SSN). In the case of foreign businesses, an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) will suffice. The IRS issues these 9-digit tax processing numbers to individuals who are required to pay US taxes but who are ineligible for a SSN, including resident and non-resident aliens and foreign nationals.

  • You may be required to file IRS Form 5472, which applies to US corporations with at least one foreign owner who owns 25% of shares, to account for the nature of monetary transactions.

  • There are also special tax credits and incentives available to businesses, including foreign tax treaties. The IRS offers a tax treaty overview and resources here.

Edited for formatting issues.

 http://www.sba.gov/community/blogs/community-blogs/business-law-advisor/starting-business-us-foreign-national


 


Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:

Actually, I found the info and it's submitted through the IRS. I thought it was the soc sec admn.


Quoting Della529:


 Are you sure you mean the SSA (Social Security Administration), or do you mean the SBA (Small Business Administration)?

 



Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:

Government isn't involved in the private sale of a business from one man to another in most cases - you should know that. As for obtaining ITINs, I'm not exactly sure how they get one but there is information on the SSA website on how to obtain them. I also thought at one time that they weren't contributing to the tax base, until one CMer found the info and explained it very well. She worked for the SSA.

It's not just Mexicans, but illegals of several races do it.




Quoting iluv2meow:



So let me get this straight, OUR government is purposely giving ILLEGAL immigrants permission to own and run businesses (as illegal aliens) and they are perfectly OK with that? WTF?

 



Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:

Somehow, they get ITINs in place of SSNs. Also, money doesn't seem to be a problem. In NYC, they have money coops in their communities and lend money to one another.



As for purchasing businesses, it doesn't take much to buy a laundry, or a deli. If they do have ITINs, they can file returns.



It gets done, maybe not above board, but it gets done.






Quoting iluv2meow:



Hmm sounds like a lot of theories regards to ILLEGALS owning businesses in America and really there was absolutely nothing explaining how Illegals are legally running these businesses. What type of ID are they using? How do they file their taxes? How does the government not know they are ILLEGAL when filing taxes for their businesses? Why is it that they are being granted permission to run and open businesses illegally in this country?

 



I have absolutely NOTHING against immigrants running and operating businesses in America we got tons of them and we also run businesses in other countries, but shit at least they are legal and many of our business owners are running legally in other countries.

 



 

 


 

 

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Redwall
by Silver Member on Jun. 13, 2012 at 7:52 PM

No idea, but once it becomes clear, send them from whence they came.

iluv2meow
by on Jun. 13, 2012 at 8:01 PM

apparently people in this group like using facts on their behalf even though their FACTS have nothing to do with the topic itself. I love how people posted FACTS on legal stances of business ownership (foreign laws) but failed to post regards business stance for ILLEGAL ALIENS that are not LEGAL!

muslimahpj
by Ruby Member on Jun. 13, 2012 at 8:18 PM


Quoting iluv2meow:

apparently people in this group like using facts on their behalf even though their FACTS have nothing to do with the topic itself. I love how people posted FACTS on legal stances of business ownership (foreign laws) but failed to post regards business stance for ILLEGAL ALIENS that are not LEGAL!

LOL

Woodbabe
by Woodie on Oct. 7, 2012 at 10:14 PM

How hard is it to pass out business cards door to door offering to clean homes? We get them all the time and they usually don't even speak English.

Anyone with the desire to work, will do so.

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