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Black women’s culture of social support to be studied for prevention of military suicides

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Veterans Affairs officials have announced that studying the uniquely supportive culture of black women might provide a key to addressing the spike in suicides occurring in the armed forces. According to the Los Angeles Times, "Suicides among U.S. military members have spiked this year, with an average of one suicide a day - the highest rate so far during a decade of war in Iraq and Afghanistan." MSNBC reports that this is an 18 percent increase in military suicides compared to last year.

While the government does not break down military suicides according to race, among the general population African-American women have the lowest suicide rate of any group. Surprisingly, white men die most often by their own hand. "The suicide rate among white men was 25.96 per 100,000 from 2005 to 2009, according to the Centerns for Disease Control and Prevention," related Government Executive magazine in its piece on studying black women to reduce soldier suicides. "By comparison, the rate for black women was less than three suicides per 100,000."

Veterans Affairs mental health director for suicide prevention, Jan Kemp, told the publication that the specific social qualities black women exhibit will be examined by her group to determine how they might be applied for military personnel. Desirable features of how African-American women relate include open and honest communication, strong social support, and positive encouragement.

"The sense of community among themselves, and the ... built-in support that they get from each other is something we're paying a lot of attention to, and trying to find ways to emulate," Kemp told Government Executive. "I think often that veterans and men don't have that same sort of personal support, and we have to build that for them."

Facets of black women's intensely loyal communities were glimpsed in a recent Washington Post story that focuses on how we are faring. This in-depth article elaborates on the findings of the most extensive poll concerning black women to date. The ladies featured are positive, resilient, and dedicated to helping each other thrive with full awareness of the pervasive stereotypes and depressing statistics threatening their sense of efficacy.

The Washington Post/Kaiser Family Foundation poll detailed found that 67 percent of black women describe themselves as having high self-esteem, as opposed to only 43 percent of white women - among other surprising facts that demonstrate that black women maintain their self-esteem regardless of circumstances.

The main question that the Post story fails to answer is: why? Why do black women have better emotional outcomes than both white men and women in the differing areas of suicide and self-esteem? Kemp and her colleagues will need to know how black women have survived the "double burden" of female and racial oppression if this incredible coping ability is to be transferred to soldiers.

 

by on Jun. 13, 2012 at 6:18 PM
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stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Jun. 14, 2012 at 8:45 PM
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You are the only one spazzing out, OP.  If you wish to be positive, BE IT.  Everyone but you is perfectly calm.  lol

Quoting Radarma:

 This was INTENDED to be a POSITIVE POST.

Great job to those who want to sully it. Kudos.

 


stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Jun. 14, 2012 at 8:46 PM
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My goodness, so positive.  lol

Quoting Radarma:

 

Quoting stacymomof2:

Why would you think shortie has to disagree with JonJon in the way you prefer her to?  It's like you are trying to strt a fight between them.  I can see JonJon's POV and she makes plenty of posts of her own as you well know.

Cut the lecture.  You can't tolerate JonJon, that doesn't mean other people don't get something from her posts.  Talk about attacking and projecting.  Jeez.

Quoting Radarma:

 You know what, I am DONE TIRED of some women here who want to be considered as "individuals" yet never counter someone of their own color when they are spewing absolute BS.

Just DONE TIRED of it.

NOT to mention, maybe the ol' "JJ" can make and chart her own damn post for once?

Now there is an idea, you know, without attacking and projecting on every responder.

GAH!

Quoting Stephanie329:

You are attacking her because she didn't reply the way you wanted her to towards JonJon, that's over the top. I'm not saying JJ's comments aren't over the top, that's kinda her "thing", if you will.

Dar, you're being very Mean Girls :(


Quoting Radarma:

 


Quoting Shortiekt:

Lol I think we just have healthy and attainable ideals towards beauty. I also think we have less images of unattainable standards ie. Super model skinny is not ideal in our culture. We're considered beautiful with or without accoutroments.


Quoting JonJon:


I have only glanced at a reply or two.  The op is about a good characteristic of black women and the replies are meant to invalidate and diminish the good thing. 


So far, we don't commit suicide because we don't have any pressure to be beautiful.  Let me keep reading while I'm multi-tasking.


 "LOL"?


Really, are you serious? WTFLYINGFUCK in the reponses is "meant to invalidate the good characteristic of black women"?


Dude, this would be a FINE time for YOU to step the hell up and shut down that BULLSHIT, coming from one of yo' own.


But nah, you LOL. Lovely.

 


 Blah Blah BLAAAAAHHHHHHH.

Poor persecuted, innocent Joni.

LMFAO

Yeah, whatever.


Carpy
by Ruby Member on Jun. 14, 2012 at 8:48 PM

That's good to hear.  More positive thoughts going your way.  I would hate to be in your shoes.  I have had enough of those runs with just one. 

Quoting charleyd68:

He is,he let the pain swell up til he was in tears then thought to let his parents know. SMH. But I am tired of the Emergency Room runs,lol. Thanks Carpy,I appreciate your kind thoughts!

Quoting Carpy:

Hope he is better today.

Quoting charleyd68:

They say he has a wryneck! Troy, maybe one and a half years ago suffered Temporary paralysis Messing around with his YOUNGER Brother,wwe,please don't try this at home. He was in the hospital,then rehab for three very Long weeks,and he has suffered nerve pain off and on since. He was born with scoliosis and it was a nothing fall,but for him it was worse. Today he sat for a while letting the pain build til he was in tears,nothing helped,hence the Hospital,I couldn't go,I knew I'd have blew,one wrong word or taking to Long I'd have been escorted out or to Lock up. Hubs was on his way,but TJ was done,they gave him a shot and said follow up with the Family Doc, we're going to the neurologist instead. He's Loopy but Home. The bad part was that Adam was back two-three nights ago,Momma is ready to snap,LOL! But you know I respect ,appreciate and Love you,thank you for asking! Our Bond Our Blessing post shows all the monsters, TJ has this simple straw hat on.LOL

Quoting JonJon:

Give us an update on your son's condition when you can.  I was so overwhelmed by your post of one of your sons' car accident I experienced one of my rare speechless moments.

I'll put a good thought out there for your son.

Quoting charleyd68:

Learning that lesson the hard way!clappingMy two cent,My Husband used to primp and preen,never passed a mirror without checking his self out,LOL! But I care,I ran out tonight because yet another Son had to rushed to the ER,and my hair is sticking up every which a way,tonight I could care less!

Quoting JonJon:

We already know that, according to some, black men need to dress a certain way and look a certain way or they can't blame anyone who decides to shoot them.

Quoting Shortiekt:

My ex and father spend more time primping than my mother and I!

Quoting Carpy:

LOL, I just read this to my nieces husband who is black.  I told him the women didn't get the vanity but you men must have.  Both my nieces husbands are primpy as hell in how they look.

Quoting Its.me.Sam.:

lol.  i grew up with mostly black and latino friends.  i always admired that sense of community.  that feeling of not always having to be perfect.  i saw small judgements - in my time it was light eyes and mocha skin that made one black female 'better' than the other - but in general there was an openess about the flaws - any kind - that i really liked.  i think white females all have to be friggin gisele bunchden and mary poppins and also a kink in the sack - else you just arent good enough.  know what i mean.  


Quoting Shortiekt:

I'm black and I agree. LOL

Quoting Its.me.Sam.:

i will say this... i have noticed that with black women it seems as if they arent so pressured to look this way or that.... i know its not all about looks.. but i have noticed that black women dont have the pressure amongst each other the way white women do.  white women are never good enough unless they are perfect.
i also think that black women seem to stick together more... i hav noticed that more black people than white people in my own circle have extended families and more familial support - like... they have a family place to go when in need. 
but i also know that things like depression and suicide are a bit more... hush hush or taboo.. im not sure which word im looking for.. but often it almost seems unacceptable to have those problems (not like with other mental illnesses that are known..like schizophrenia or something).
I'm not a black woman so i am only speaking of how i have experienced the black women in my life. 


Quoting Radarma:

 Bump...no thoughts? Nuthin'? :(












Radarma
by "OneDar" on Jun. 14, 2012 at 8:49 PM

 Yes, of course, it is ALWAYS ME, no one else. You betcha!

At ANY rate, yes, this is a GREAT POST and there are things to be learned here.

 

Radarma
by "OneDar" on Jun. 14, 2012 at 8:51 PM

 

Quoting stacymomof2:

You are the only one spazzing out, OP.  If you wish to be positive, BE IT.  Everyone but you is perfectly calm.  lol

Quoting Radarma:

 This was INTENDED to be a POSITIVE POST.

Great job to those who want to sully it. Kudos.

 


 Hey, have YOU ever, you know as a MOD, made a post that someone immediately came on and hijacked with ill wishes of and for YOU?

Gosh, no, I don't think ya have.

Until then, can it babe.

 

Carpy
by Ruby Member on Jun. 14, 2012 at 8:55 PM
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You can blame me if you want.  if they are hating on me then they are leaving someone alone who can't take it.

Quoting Radarma:

 Yes, of course, it is ALWAYS ME, no one else. You betcha!

At ANY rate, yes, this is a GREAT POST and there are things to be learned here.

 


stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Jun. 14, 2012 at 9:01 PM
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Someone was giving you "ill wishes?"  Sorry to hear that.  As far as how people trat me, hell yes lots of people have said stuff to me that pissed me off.  You should see some of the Islam threads and then come talk to me, mod or no mod.  Why are you so hung up on me being a mod?  I have been a consistent poster my whole time in this group.  What are you trying to imply with that?  Come out with it.

Anyways, I'm not going to "can it."  This is an open forum, when I read something I will state my opinion.  Enjoy!  :D

Quoting Radarma:

 

Quoting stacymomof2:

You are the only one spazzing out, OP.  If you wish to be positive, BE IT.  Everyone but you is perfectly calm.  lol

Quoting Radarma:

 This was INTENDED to be a POSITIVE POST.

Great job to those who want to sully it. Kudos.

 


 Hey, have YOU ever, you know as a MOD, made a post that someone immediately came on and hijacked with ill wishes of and for YOU?

Gosh, no, I don't think ya have.

Until then, can it babe.

 


Happymamax2
by Silver Member on Jun. 14, 2012 at 9:02 PM
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Quoting Radarma:



That's funny. Maybe you should reread and see how things really went down! Lol.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, I've seen you commenting on JonJon's posts before. So not only does she create her own posts, you actually follow her there.... You must like to get pissed!
Radarma
by "OneDar" on Jun. 14, 2012 at 9:04 PM

 

Quoting Happymamax2:

Quoting Radarma:



That's funny. Maybe you should reread and see how things really went down! Lol.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, I've seen you commenting on JonJon's posts before. So not only does she create her own posts, you actually follow her there.... You must like to get pissed!

 Yo stalker race martyr, I have not hit a JJ post for over six months now. And I will not.

NEXT!

stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Jun. 14, 2012 at 9:07 PM

Oh I can hate on you Carpy!  haha

I didn't see any hating in this post.  I might be annoying the OP but that's not the same thing, I don't know where all the hating is.

Quoting Carpy:

You can blame me if you want.  if they are hating on me then they are leaving someone alone who can't take it.

Quoting Radarma:

 Yes, of course, it is ALWAYS ME, no one else. You betcha!

At ANY rate, yes, this is a GREAT POST and there are things to be learned here.

 



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