Obamacare Stands & Now We Have to Pay Other People's Medical Bills - What do you think of Obamacare?
Obamacare Stands & Now We Have to Pay Other People's Medical Bills
The Supreme Court announced its decision on whether or not to turn over part or all of Obamacare. There have been rumors all week that Chief Justice John Roberts would issue the majority opinion, which led many (myself included) to hope that meant the individual mandate would be repealed.
Liberals have cited the Commerce Clause for the constitutionality of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (such a misnomer), which requires all Americans to purchase health insurance, or pay an annual fine. Because apparently the Commerce Clause isn’t just about regulating commerce, but compelling it. Or something.
Anyway, because Justice Roberts looked to be writing the ruling, and he typically votes Conservative, you can imagine the shock when it broke that he sided with the liberals in a 5-4 vote declaring that Obamacare stands. Say what now? It stands? With the individual mandate? And Roberts voted for it?
Sort of.
The court ruled that Obamacare could stand, but not on the Commerce Clause. It’s now officially a tax. Yup, Obama has levied the largest tax increase on the middle class in American history. Thanks, Mr. President! Even after the ruling was announced, Obama was still peddling the “you can keep your plan” lie.
But, but, but ... Why should I have to pay a tax for someone else’s benefit? I pay for insurance and co-pays, why should I pay for yours too? Well, people pay taxes all the time for other people’s benefits. For example -- taxes pay for the fire and police departments, but if your house never catches fire or you’re never the victim of a crime, that’s tax money you paid for someone else’s benefit. People that don’t have kids or don’t take advantage of the public education system aren’t exempt from paying taxes for schools.
I see now how it’s totally kosher to tax the middle class to pay other people’s medical bills. So now that we’ve established the constitutionality of Congress to force Americans to buy a product, and call it a tax, what else will they tax us with?
Will we have to buy Smart Cars for the ‘collective good’ of the environment? What about juicers, because juicing is so healthy? You don’t have to use your juicer, but you sure as heck have to buy one. Since our health care costs are spiraling out of control, it’s probably wise to make healthy food choices, so let’s impose a steak and arugula tax. Michelle Obama will be all over that one.
These scenarios may sound ridiculous, but where is the line? Whether you label it a fee or a tax, the government is forcing Americans to purchase a product whether they want it or not. When does it end?
I'm going to take a wild guess and say it ends November 6, 2012.
What do you think of Obamacare? What does this ruling mean for you?
So, in NH, if an insured driver is involved in an auto accident with an uninsured motorist, and it turns out the uninsured driver was at fault, who pays for the damage? Are there safeguards in place for the insured motorist or do they have to pay for the damage to their vehicle because they were responsible and bought insurance?
Should those of us who are responsible and buy health insurance for our families have to continue to see our rates increase to pay the bills of those who don't have insurance? Especially if it's made more affordable than it has been in years past?
Quoting fullxbusymom:New Hampshire
The state of NH is like no other when it comes to auto insurance. while the state of NH recommends that all motorists carry at least the minimum liablility insurance coverage, NH law, in most cases, does not require it.
In the state of NH certain drivers are required to carry minimum liability insurance, If you have been convicted of a DWI or accumulated a certain number of DMV demerit points, these violations will activate a auto minimum liability insurance requirement. First offense DWI convictions require liability insurance for 3 years and second offense DWI convictions require liability insurance for 5 years.
Quoting MeAndTommyLee:This is exactly what I said in another post on CM today and everyone ignored it.
Apparently, the new `compassion' everyone is supposed to have for one another goes only as far as when you actually have to reach inside your wallet for a pittance of what you make to help every American citizen obtain a basic human right. They're far more interested in fawning over nations that do NOTHING to help themselves through their own government. How dare Obama be a president that that is also a human being and attached himself to the commitment to putting Americans first during his administration.
Quoting LovelyDayz:
I believe everyone should have health care no matter what. As far as other ppl paying for the cost of their medical bill, I understand the frustration. If I have it, I will be glad to help. Well that's just me though.
As far as I know you are not penalized for not having auto insurance. Lots of people drive without insurance and unless they are in an accident there is no penalty for disregarding the law. In fact, I have to buy "uninsured motorist" insurance......
Quoting terpmama:
We already pay the cost of the uninsured... Not only in higher costs to us but also in hospitals closing which means fewer providers, linger waits and less availability of care (that's right costs that aren't monetary)...
This is the same as mandating auto insurance... No one argues with that one
Quoting yourspecialkid:
Quoting PurdueMom:
This is why we need single payer. We need to take profit out of healthcare.
No thank you. I have experienced govt insurance via Tricare. I had to wait 6 months to get 6 lumps removed from my breast and find out they weren't cancerous. I almost died giving birth to my second child because my assigned doctor "couldn't" do a c-section because she was already at 28%....took 3.5 days to have the baby and a year for me to recover from the damage it did to my body.
We pay out of pocket for insurance because I will no longer use Tricare.
You get what you pay for....how good do you think it will be if it is free?
I'm not military, but don't the physicians that work under Tricare also work for the government or military? Or are they civilian doctors?
Sherri
Quoting PurdueMom:
This is a lie and very misleading.
Quoting toomanypoodles:
How much am I going to be "taxed" for not buying Obamacare?
Does the Polygamous Community Deserve Food Stamps?
- Cafe Steph
on Jun. 28, 2012 at 5:49 PM