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A boy at my sons HS was allowed to bring his rifle to school

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 For his final in English he had to write a paper and then give a presentation about a subject of his choice. He brought the rifle to show how he can break it down and put it back together. He also went over gun safety.

He met with the principal and his parents. They developed a safety plan. the principal escorted him from his car to his office. the gun styed in the office until it was time for him to give his report. then the principal escorted him to the classroom and remained in the room while he gave the report. When the gun was removed from the case they checked to make sure it was unloaded...3 times.

I am glad this happened. This is why I love our school.

by on Jun. 29, 2012 at 12:06 AM
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anxiousschk
by anxiouss on Jul. 1, 2012 at 10:53 AM

A gun that *can't* be loaded is different from one that isn't.  

I've known schools where students brough ammo to school.  Who is to say that couldn't happen?  

I don't understand why a video demonstration wouldn't be as effective.  

Quoting mommychelle01:

I've never heard of any accidents happening with an unloaded gun..

Quoting anxiousschk:

I don't want guns in my school.  End of story.  

Sure, you can have all the safety in the word, but accidents happen. 

Hell, when you get into a car, how often do you intend to get into an accident?  It's the same thing with guns.  

I do believe all children should be aware of gun safety and know it, so that they are better prepared if something were to happen, however it won't eradicate gun accidents. 

I posted in here previously about a teen who was a champion shooter.  He was more than well aware of gun saftey, etc.  However, he still had an accdient and died from a gunshot.  

Accidents happen. 


mommychelle01
by Bronze Member on Jul. 1, 2012 at 11:00 AM
You do realize that the principal and teacher were both there during the presentation and would have seen the kid pulling out ammo he had been hiding and loading the gun and would have had time to grab the gun from him?

Quoting anxiousschk:

A gun that *can't* be loaded is different from one that isn't.  

I've known schools where students brough ammo to school.  Who is to say that couldn't happen?  

I don't understand why a video demonstration wouldn't be as effective.  


Quoting mommychelle01:

I've never heard of any accidents happening with an unloaded gun..



Quoting anxiousschk:

I don't want guns in my school.  End of story.  

Sure, you can have all the safety in the word, but accidents happen. 

Hell, when you get into a car, how often do you intend to get into an accident?  It's the same thing with guns.  

I do believe all children should be aware of gun safety and know it, so that they are better prepared if something were to happen, however it won't eradicate gun accidents. 

I posted in here previously about a teen who was a champion shooter.  He was more than well aware of gun saftey, etc.  However, he still had an accdient and died from a gunshot.  

Accidents happen. 


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Mrs.Sells
by on Jul. 2, 2012 at 8:19 AM


Quoting BMacIntyre:

I know that I am the minority in my opinion when it comes to guns. After his military service, my Dad felt (as do I) that guns are not for play or entertainment. We did not play games with toy guns, etc. He was clear that he felt that guns were far to dangerous to be seen as anything other that a way to kill someone. And since he planned never to do that again (his military service required that), we never had weapons in our home. And neither do I.

I would not be pleased to have my child being introduced to guns as hobbies, as entertainment. But I respect that others disagree. I only hope that I would have been told in advance and given an option for my child to sit this one out


I'm sure you would feel differently if you lived in an area where people hunt ot feed their families. Guns and shooting aren't just "hobbies"

anxiousschk
by anxiouss on Jul. 2, 2012 at 8:30 AM

Sure, b/c they're ninjas!  

Look, you simply can't plan for accidents.  

A kid falls in the hall while walking with the Principal or a teacher....but the Principal was there to grab him! (but he missed).  

Could you explain why a video would not have been just as effective?  Some of our students have to do demonstrations with explanations...walk you through step by step.  I've seen both in class and video (as well as powerpoint) versions of this and all are equally effective.  Why was it necessary for the gun to be there when a valuable opportunity to work on technological skills as well as the project was either missed or ignored. 

Quoting mommychelle01:

You do realize that the principal and teacher were both there during the presentation and would have seen the kid pulling out ammo he had been hiding and loading the gun and would have had time to grab the gun from him?


dustinsmom1
by JENN on Jul. 2, 2012 at 10:38 AM

 As long as itwas unloaded I would have nop problem w/ it. Gone are the days where we can go to school w/ our rifle in the rifle racks of our locked truck because of safety issues.

Someone said a police officer should have present, how stupid. The kid probably knows more about his rifle than a cop would.

mommychelle01
by Bronze Member on Jul. 2, 2012 at 11:53 AM
The time it takes to trip and fall and the time it takes to pull out bullets and load a gun are not comparable.


Quoting anxiousschk:

Sure, b/c they're ninjas!  

Look, you simply can't plan for accidents.  

A kid falls in the hall while walking with the Principal or a teacher....but the Principal was there to grab him! (but he missed).  

Could you explain why a video would not have been just as effective?  Some of our students have to do demonstrations with explanations...walk you through step by step.  I've seen both in class and video (as well as powerpoint) versions of this and all are equally effective.  Why was it necessary for the gun to be there when a valuable opportunity to work on technological skills as well as the project was either missed or ignored. 


Quoting mommychelle01:

You do realize that the principal and teacher were both there during the presentation and would have seen the kid pulling out ammo he had been hiding and loading the gun and would have had time to grab the gun from him?




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anxiousschk
by anxiouss on Jul. 2, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Eh....can be.  I've had students quite literally fall in slow motion.  They weren't close enough for me to help, but it's happened.  

I've also watched my friend with extensive firearms training pull and load his gun.  

At any rate, I don't care.  I don't want a gun in my school.  

Again, why would a video demonstration (or powerpoint, or prezi) not be as effective? 

Quoting mommychelle01:

The time it takes to trip and fall and the time it takes to pull out bullets and load a gun are not comparable.


Quoting anxiousschk:

Sure, b/c they're ninjas!  

Look, you simply can't plan for accidents.  

A kid falls in the hall while walking with the Principal or a teacher....but the Principal was there to grab him! (but he missed).  

Could you explain why a video would not have been just as effective?  Some of our students have to do demonstrations with explanations...walk you through step by step.  I've seen both in class and video (as well as powerpoint) versions of this and all are equally effective.  Why was it necessary for the gun to be there when a valuable opportunity to work on technological skills as well as the project was either missed or ignored. 


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