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Hate Obamacare? Don't Worry, Here Are Some Countries You Can Move To

Posted by on Jun. 30, 2012 at 1:50 PM
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Hate Obamacare? Don't Worry, Here Are Some Countries You Can Move To

Posted: 06/29/2012 12:49 pm


On the heels of the announcement of the Supreme Court's decision to uphold the majority of the Affordable Care Act, Buzzfeed released a compilation of tweets by outraged citizens claiming that they were going to move to Canada in an effort to avoid Obamacare.

While I may not agree with their utter disappointment at the prospect of roughly 40 million uninsured Americans being granted access to affordable health care, as a dual citizen of the U.S. and Canada, I feel somewhat of a responsibility to inform these people, in addition to those who have similar feelings but somehow held back from voicing them on Twitter, that Canada probably isn't the best place to go to avoid universal health care. In fact, it hasn't been since 1966.

While this may come as a disappointment to some who were hoping to blissfully drink Tim Horton's coffee while observing impoverished people die from treatable ailments, fear not: There are plenty of countries that you can move to where you'll have absolutely no government-mandated access to health care.

Perhaps you might consider moving to Haiti. Not only would you be able to dodge socialist doctors, but you might be able to avoid medical professionals altogether: The country only has 25 physicians per 100,000 people. While access to clean water may be a bit spotty, this is more than made up for by the short life expectancy and the absence of Barack Obamas. Pack your swimsuit!

But maybe Haiti is still a little too close to our socialist empire for comfort. (Dear God, what if America's newfound brand of Marxist, fascist dictatorship were to spread?!) Don't worry, because the majority of the continent of Africa is far away from both Obamacare -- and any sort of care whatsoever. In fact, for you diehard libertarians who hate having your government provide things, there aren't many places better-suited for you than Liberia. Not only will the Liberian government not provide you with health care, but it will also fail to provide for just about every other basic human need. It's no coincidence that the country's motto is, "The love of liberty brought us here," because nothing represents the anti-Obamacare brand of liberty than a very high risk of catching a serious infectious disease and a low likelihood of finding the resources to treat it. As a bonus for you fans of the Second Amendment who feel that it's necessary to have a gun on you at all times, you're going to love this beautiful land where that's probably a pretty good idea.

Now, I know what you're thinking: "But what if I hate Obamacare and also love human-rights violations? Where can I live to satisfy both these passions?" Worry not, friend, because I have four beautiful syllables for you: Turkmenistan. The former Soviet region not only abolished its free public health care in 2004, but it was also once again named as a chronic abuser of human rights by the United States State Department this past May.

There's really no reason to suffer through the grave injustice of universal health care when there is such a robust sampling of countries that (are not industrialized and) will happily allow you to not experience Obamacare. Granted, many have been plagued by poverty, unemployment, and civil war, but how is living in those conditions that different from life under the Obama administration? Have you seen that Rick Santorum ad? Spooky!

Of course, your other option is to continue to utilize your private health-care plan, as you are entitled to do, while taking pride in the fact that your country, which currently spends much more per capita on health care than any other nation in the world, has found a way to increase coverage for its citizens while reducing the deficit.

On the other hand, I hear Bangladesh is lovely this time of year.

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Sisteract
by Whoopie on Jun. 30, 2012 at 1:57 PM
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Hilarious-

It was very quiet here yesterday, I figured many were researching their options- the gun lovers who pack an arsenal better figure out where they can legally keep those goodies as well.

illegallyblonde
by Lawyerupbeeches on Jun. 30, 2012 at 2:01 PM
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That was awesome! Thanks for posting.

I hear India is lovely during monsoon season.
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stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Jun. 30, 2012 at 2:19 PM
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People don't see it as a problem to hand their lives over to a for profit insurance company with little regulation, but are appalled at handing over their health care to people who are not allowed to profit and furthermore must answer to us, the people.  It makes no sense.

worwalkerlds
by Member on Jun. 30, 2012 at 2:25 PM
I love this!
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momtoscott
by Platinum Member on Jun. 30, 2012 at 2:27 PM
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 Lol! Thanks for posting.  I really don't get all the agita over this decision and think that in four or five years people are going to realize it was good for everyone.  Except maybe insurance company executives, boo hoo. 

HouseKatof2
by on Jun. 30, 2012 at 2:29 PM

Nice! 

romalove
by Roma on Jun. 30, 2012 at 2:35 PM
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Quoting momtoscott:

 Lol! Thanks for posting.  I really don't get all the agita over this decision and think that in four or five years people are going to realize it was good for everyone.  Except maybe insurance company executives, boo hoo. 

 I think it's a horrible decision.  I think it's a nightmare for the middle class and I think it's a terribly infringement on our rights as citizens, and will lead to more taxations and penalties as government decides what is "best" for us.

It also sealed for me that I will not vote for Obama.  I'm going third party candidate this year.  Now, I know this means my candidate will not win, but I cannot in good conscience vote for either of the repugnant choices the main parties are giving me.

momtoscott
by Platinum Member on Jun. 30, 2012 at 2:41 PM

 I know this news hit you really hard, Roma, and I hope it turns out to be better than you think and that it will give self employed people low cost options for health coverage.  I'm not convinced that it's the tip of a slippery slope, but only time will tell.  

We haven't had lots of new taxes in Mass under Romneycare so far, although I know that's not tremendously reassuring.    

Quoting romalove:

 

Quoting momtoscott:

 Lol! Thanks for posting.  I really don't get all the agita over this decision and think that in four or five years people are going to realize it was good for everyone.  Except maybe insurance company executives, boo hoo. 

 I think it's a horrible decision.  I think it's a nightmare for the middle class and I think it's a terribly infringement on our rights as citizens, and will lead to more taxations and penalties as government decides what is "best" for us.

It also sealed for me that I will not vote for Obama.  I'm going third party candidate this year.  Now, I know this means my candidate will not win, but I cannot in good conscience vote for either of the repugnant choices the main parties are giving me.

 

heidimoose134
by Momma Moose on Jun. 30, 2012 at 2:43 PM
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I admit I'm ignorant to many of the aspects of Obamacare. 

There are parts of it that I do agree with but I struggle with the mandate. 

It's called the Affordable Care Act but where does the "affordable" fall into place? For middle class Americans who may not get insurance through their employer (and even some that do have that option) it's still going to be hundreds (potentially into the thousands) of dollars a month, depending on the size of their family. The insurance companies are still going to charge the same, I'm sure. I don't see private insurance lowering their rates just because they have more people on their plans. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they raised rates. But I'm forever skeptical of the practices of many companies in the private industry. 

If someone can explain how this is supposed to be "affordable" I'm willing to absorb the knowledge. lol


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romalove
by Roma on Jun. 30, 2012 at 2:49 PM
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Quoting momtoscott:

 I know this news hit you really hard, Roma, and I hope it turns out to be better than you think and that it will give self employed people low cost options for health coverage.  I'm not convinced that it's the tip of a slippery slope, but only time will tell.  

We haven't had lots of new taxes in Mass under Romneycare so far, although I know that's not tremendously reassuring.    

Quoting romalove:

 

Quoting momtoscott:

 Lol! Thanks for posting.  I really don't get all the agita over this decision and think that in four or five years people are going to realize it was good for everyone.  Except maybe insurance company executives, boo hoo. 

 I think it's a horrible decision.  I think it's a nightmare for the middle class and I think it's a terribly infringement on our rights as citizens, and will lead to more taxations and penalties as government decides what is "best" for us.

It also sealed for me that I will not vote for Obama.  I'm going third party candidate this year.  Now, I know this means my candidate will not win, but I cannot in good conscience vote for either of the repugnant choices the main parties are giving me.

 

 It has hit me hard in part because the idea that I will have to take on a large bill or suffer a tax penalty scares the hell out of me.  We are two self-employed people here.  Some months we are doing great, other months we are waiting for a month when we are doing great lol.  My business right now is in slow season (July-August).  A bill for 700 to a thousand dollars due anyway is frightening on top of mortgage and everything else.  Do I have to sell my house to pay for this monstrosity?

I am hopeful I am wrong and there will be affordable options but I am dubious at best.

I also will say, the argument I fear regarding the loss of freedom here is very real to me, whether or not the health care bill negatively impacts my own bottom line.  Maybe my husband will get hired and get benefits again (we've always had them till the last three years) and this will be moot for my personal pocketbook.  Maybe the way it shakes out our income will qualify us for subsidies, etc.  But it won't matter in terms of my core argument, which is that if the government can compell this through taxation, they can choose to compell anything through that mechanism.

And they will.

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