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Own a Gun? Doctors Can Refuse to Treat You

Posted by on Jul. 6, 2012 at 2:25 PM
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Own a Gun? Doctors Can Refuse to Treat You

If you have a gun in your home, can doctors be allowed to refuse you treatment?

At least one federal judge thinks so, and she has issued a permanent injunction against a Florida law that would have forced doctors to provide their service.

Last year, Florida passed the “Firearm Ownership Privacy Act,” which bars doctors from asking patients about guns in the home, “unless the practitioner in good faith believes the information is relevant to the patient’s medical care or safety” and would impose sanctions if doctors “unnecessarily harass a patient about firearm ownership.”

The law was passed after an Ocala, Fla., couple complained that a doctor had asked them about guns and after they declined to answer refused to see them anymore.

But U.S. District Judge Marcia Cooke had issued a temporary injunction after three doctors sued the state, claiming the “gag order” on talking to their patients about guns was an infringement of free speech and the doctor-patient relationship.

The resulting legal battle became known as the “Docs vs. Glocks” case.

The doctors were backed in the case by various physicians organizations, the American Civil Liberties Union and the Washington-based Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

The National Rifle Association, however, which helped push the law through the legislation, was barred by the judge from participating in the lawsuit, as Cooke claimed the state was fully capable of defending itself.

In a ruling issued late last week, Cooke decided for the doctors and made her injunction against the law permanent.

“The state, through this law, inserts itself in the doctor-patient relationship,” Cooke wrote in her 25-page ruling, “prohibiting and burdening speech necessary to the proper practice of preventive medicine, thereby preventing patients from receiving truthful, non-misleading information. … This it cannot do.”

Cooke asserted furthermore that the anti-harassment language of the bill is too vague and “does not provide fair notice as to what range of conduct it prohibits.”

Dan Gross, president of the Brady Center, celebrated the decision.

“Guns in the home are a proven deadly risk,” Gross said in a statement. “The government cannot tell us or our doctors that we are prohibited from discussing the deadly risks posed by guns.”

Florida Governor Rick Scott’s spokesman, Lane Wright, told the Palm Beach Post that the governor was considering whether or not to appeal the decision, but Rep. Jason Brodeur, a Republican who sponsored the bill, and the Florida Senate’s general counsel, Craig Meyer, both said they believed Scott would appeal.


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Posted by on Jul. 6, 2012 at 2:25 PM
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Ziva65
by Gold Member on Jul. 8, 2012 at 5:47 PM

Interesting. It seems to me that as physicians already ask about drinking/ drugs and smoking, I guess if they can refuse to treat a patient who has guns in the home, they might as well be able to refuse care to those who drink and smoke too.

IDK, it doesn't make sense ot me. Practitioners I would think, are there to treat people, so they don't have to listen, can keep taking health risks, but refuse to treat seems odd. I don't see a problem though with an insurer refusing to insure those who smoke, do drugs, drink or have guns in their homes... (BTW, I have guns, and an occassional glass of wine) but if there is a potential for unnecessary illness injury d/t someones high risk behavior- sure don't insure them. It's just like life insurance...

Redwall
by Silver Member on Jul. 8, 2012 at 7:15 PM

How on earth would they know?! 

andiemomo3
by Andie on Jul. 8, 2012 at 7:38 PM
None of our family doctors have ever asked about guns. I would find it odd if they started asking now. Though, I'm in Tennessee and I know very few people who don't own some sort of gun.
loisl25
by Member on Jul. 8, 2012 at 7:50 PM
I fail to understand how and why it's the doctor's business, unless the patient is there for a gun related injury. I understand a parent asking if there is a gun in the home before letting thier child play at my house, but it's not my doctor's business unless we are there for a gun related injury.
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stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Jul. 8, 2012 at 7:53 PM

My kid's pediatrician asked about guns.  I was like huh?  No...

But I figured it was the same sort of question as "does anyone in the house smoke" and "do you always use the carseat."  Just a little canned lecture they repeat to make people aware.  

Quoting andiemomo3:

None of our family doctors have ever asked about guns. I would find it odd if they started asking now. Though, I'm in Tennessee and I know very few people who don't own some sort of gun.


andiemomo3
by Andie on Jul. 8, 2012 at 7:56 PM
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Quoting stacymomof2:


That's what it sounds like. I just can't imagine the topic being introduced now, after so many years with the same doctors. My doctor did ask the smoking in the home one. The ped has never brought up cars seats etc. I think he assumes we know better? He does ask the children a variety of questions at every visit. He lets them lead all conversations. So it does get interesting sometimes.
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