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Where’s the Outrage?

Posted by on Jul. 28, 2012 at 11:54 AM
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July 27, 2012

Where’s the Outrage?

Are too many Democratic voters sleepwalking away from our democracy this election cycle, not nearly outraged enough about Big Money’s undue influence and Republican state legislatures changing the voting rules?

It seems so.

A Gallup poll released this week found that: “Democrats are significantly less likely now (39 percent) than they were in the summers of 2004 and 2008 to say they are ‘more enthusiastic about voting than usual’ in the coming presidential election.” Republicans are more enthusiastic than they were before the last election.

Some of that may be the effect of having a Democratic president in office; it’s sometimes easier to marshal anger against an incumbent than excitement for him. Whatever the reason, this lack of enthusiasm at this critical juncture in the election is disturbing for Democrats.

First, there’s the specter of the oligarchy lingering over this election, which disproportionately benefits Republicans. According to a report by Senator Bernard Sanders of Vermont, “So far this year, 26 billionaires have donated more than $61 million to super PACs, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. And that’s only what has been publicly disclosed.” That didn’t include “about $100 million that Sheldon Adelson has said that he is willing to spend to defeat President Obama; or the $400 million that the Koch brothers have pledged to spend during the 2012 election season.”

During a Senate Judiciary subcommittee hearing on Tuesday, Sanders put it this way: “What the Supreme Court did in Citizens United is to say to these same billionaires and the corporations they control: ‘You own and control the economy; you own Wall Street; you own the coal companies; you own the oil companies. Now, for a very small percentage of your wealth, we’re going to give you the opportunity to own the United States government.’ ”

Then, of course, there’s the widespread voter suppression mostly enacted by Republican-led legislatures.

According to the Brennan Center for Justice at the New York University School of Law, at least 180 restrictive voting bills were introduced since the beginning of 2011 in 41 states, and “16 states have passed restrictive voting laws that have the potential to impact the 2012 election” because they “account for 214 electoral votes, or nearly 79 percent of the total needed to win the presidency.”

A provision most likely to disenfranchise voters is a requirement that people show photo identification to vote. Millions of Americans don’t have these forms of ID, and many can’t easily obtain them, even when states say they’ll offer them free, because getting the documentation to obtain the “free” ID takes time and money.

This is a solution in search of a problem. The in-person voter ID requirements only prevent someone from impersonating another voter at the polls, an occurrence that the Brennan Center points out is “more rare than being struck by lightning.”

The voting rights advocates I’ve talked to don’t resist all ID requirements (though they don’t say they are all necessary, either). They simply say that multiple forms of identification like student ID and Social Security cards should also be accepted, and that alternate ways for people without IDs to vote should be included. Many of these laws don’t allow for such flexibility.

Make no mistake about it, these requirements are not about the integrity of the vote but rather the disenfranchisement of voters. This is about tilting the table so that more of the marbles roll to the Republican corner.

Look at it this way: We have been moving toward wider voter participation for a century. States began to issue driver’s licenses more than a century ago and began to include photos on those licenses decades ago. Yet, as the Brennan Center points out, “prior to the 2006 election, no state required its voters to show government-issued photo ID at the polls (or elsewhere) in order to vote.”

Furthermore, most voter laws have emerged in the last two years. What is the difference between previous decades and today? The election of Barack Obama. It is no coincidence that some of the people least likely to have proper IDs to vote are the ones that generally vote Democratic and were strong supporters of Obama last election: young people, the poor and minorities.

Republicans are leveraging the deep pockets of anti-Obama billionaires and sinister voter suppression tactics that harken back to Jim Crow to wrest power from the hands of docile Democrats.

There is little likely to be done about the Big Money before the election, and, although some of the voter suppression laws are being challenged in court, the outcome of those cases is uncertain.

These elements are not within voters’ control, but two things are: energy and alertness.

If Democrats don’t wake up soon, this election might not just be won or lost, it could be bought or stolen.


Sherri

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PurdueMom
by Sherri on Jul. 28, 2012 at 3:13 PM

It will take Republicans 2 years to undo what happened?  That should be much easier than Obama had to undo what happened in Bush's 8 years.  2 years of a Democrat-controlled House and Senate?   .... Are you sure about that?

I understand the frustration and hatred for a president you don't like or trust.  I suffered through that with Dubya, so I'm not totally unsympathetic to your concerns.  I just happen to believe the way to save this nation is not in the direction the Republicans wish to take us - their way or the highway and no compromise.  You must believe the Republicans can do better.... although I've never really seen you give specifics as to how but rather just your negative opinion of Obama.  Perhaps you can enlighten me? 

If Romney wins the White House and the Repubs get the Senate, I am very concerned what may happen.   It's just that every economist and expert I trust tells me the Republicans have it wrong...  And then there's the issue of the possibility of the next president appointing a Supreme Court Justice.  *shivers to think of another conservative on the Court*

Obama/Biden 2012! (if not then...) 

Hilary Clinton 2016!   :)

Quoting candlegal:

I will take at least 2 years of that so we can undue what happened in Obama's first 2 years when he had a Dem house and senate.  I am sure you would be concerned about a republican majority just as many of us are and were over a Democrat majority

Quoting PurdueMom:

I'm hopeful that when the presidential debates start more Democrats or independents get more involved.  

I have so much to say about what I believe will happen if the Republicans gain the White House and Senate, as well as keep the House.... but it might just have to happen for people to see there has to be a return to compromise and bi-partisanship as in past administrations.  A Republican-majority government greatly concerns me.

So many of us put our faith and hope in President Obama's presidency.  I have been disappointed in him in many instances, but I also believe he has done a lot of good that goes unnoticed or ignored.  I still have faith in him and will vote for him in November.



Sherri

cammibear
by Gold Member on Jul. 28, 2012 at 3:15 PM
The only possible change from big money lobbyists that dictate BOTH parties agendas is to change from within. Sorry, but I'll take the change fiscal conservatives would like to implement through the "Big Money" Republicans over the change Progressives are trying to implement through the Democrat party. **shrugs, because we are screwed either way if we can't unite under fiscal conservatism.**
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candlegal
by Judy on Jul. 28, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Hey, I didn't agree with a lot that Bush did but starting with the stimulus that didn't stimulate anything, Obama has cost us more money in 3 1/2 years than Bush did in 8.  I don't believe in bailouts and what the american taxpayers are now on the hook for.   

We will have to agree to disagree on this because I don't believe the Democrats know how to do anything that will help us out of the mess we are in.

Quoting PurdueMom:

It will take Republicans 2 years to undo what happened?  That should be much easier than Obama had to undo what happened in Bush's 8 years.  2 years of a Democrat-controlled House and Senate?   .... Are you sure about that?

I understand the frustration and hatred for a president you don't like or trust.  I suffered through that with Dubya, so I'm not totally unsympathetic to your concerns.  I just happen to believe the way to save this nation is not in the direction the Republicans wish to take us - their way or the highway and no compromise.  You must believe the Republicans can do better.... although I've never really seen you give specifics as to how but rather just your negative opinion of Obama.  Perhaps you can enlighten me? 

If Romney wins the White House and the Repubs get the Senate, I am very concerned what may happen.   It's just that every economist and expert I trust tells me the Republicans have it wrong...  And then there's the issue of the possibility of the next president appointing a Supreme Court Justice.  *shivers to think of another conservative on the Court*

Obama/Biden 2012! (if not then...) 

Hilary Clinton 2016!   :)

Quoting candlegal:

I will take at least 2 years of that so we can undue what happened in Obama's first 2 years when he had a Dem house and senate.  I am sure you would be concerned about a republican majority just as many of us are and were over a Democrat majority

Quoting PurdueMom:

I'm hopeful that when the presidential debates start more Democrats or independents get more involved.  

I have so much to say about what I believe will happen if the Republicans gain the White House and Senate, as well as keep the House.... but it might just have to happen for people to see there has to be a return to compromise and bi-partisanship as in past administrations.  A Republican-majority government greatly concerns me.

So many of us put our faith and hope in President Obama's presidency.  I have been disappointed in him in many instances, but I also believe he has done a lot of good that goes unnoticed or ignored.  I still have faith in him and will vote for him in November.




PurdueMom
by Sherri on Jul. 28, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Economists disagree with you that the stimulus did nothing.  As for Obama costing us more than Bush?  Here's a little more info on that.  

Of course we disagree on this.  lol  I'm a liberal, and you are conservative.  However, you still have not given me specifics on how the Republicans will do better, if not worse.  

Quoting candlegal:

Hey, I didn't agree with a lot that Bush did but starting with the stimulus that didn't stimulate anything, Obama has cost us more money in 3 1/2 years than Bush did in 8.  I don't believe in bailouts and what the american taxpayers are now on the hook for.   

We will have to agree to disagree on this because I don't believe the Democrats know how to do anything that will help us out of the mess we are in.

Quoting PurdueMom:

It will take Republicans 2 years to undo what happened?  That should be much easier than Obama had to undo what happened in Bush's 8 years.  2 years of a Democrat-controlled House and Senate?   .... Are you sure about that?

I understand the frustration and hatred for a president you don't like or trust.  I suffered through that with Dubya, so I'm not totally unsympathetic to your concerns.  I just happen to believe the way to save this nation is not in the direction the Republicans wish to take us - their way or the highway and no compromise.  You must believe the Republicans can do better.... although I've never really seen you give specifics as to how but rather just your negative opinion of Obama.  Perhaps you can enlighten me? 

If Romney wins the White House and the Repubs get the Senate, I am very concerned what may happen.   It's just that every economist and expert I trust tells me the Republicans have it wrong...  And then there's the issue of the possibility of the next president appointing a Supreme Court Justice.  *shivers to think of another conservative on the Court*

Obama/Biden 2012! (if not then...) 

Hilary Clinton 2016!   :)

Quoting candlegal:

I will take at least 2 years of that so we can undue what happened in Obama's first 2 years when he had a Dem house and senate.  I am sure you would be concerned about a republican majority just as many of us are and were over a Democrat majority

Quoting PurdueMom:

I'm hopeful that when the presidential debates start more Democrats or independents get more involved.  

I have so much to say about what I believe will happen if the Republicans gain the White House and Senate, as well as keep the House.... but it might just have to happen for people to see there has to be a return to compromise and bi-partisanship as in past administrations.  A Republican-majority government greatly concerns me.

So many of us put our faith and hope in President Obama's presidency.  I have been disappointed in him in many instances, but I also believe he has done a lot of good that goes unnoticed or ignored.  I still have faith in him and will vote for him in November.





Sherri

sherry132
by Silver Member on Jul. 28, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Agreed, I don't know any American that doesn't have an id, besides children. 

Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:

"MILLIONS" of Americans don't have ID?

Yeah, okay. :-/


candlegal
by Judy on Jul. 28, 2012 at 3:54 PM

some economists disagree with me, not all.

I am on the way out the door to work and yes you are a liberal and I am a conservertave, so we probably will disagree on most things having to do with politicians and the economy, etc.

Quoting PurdueMom:

Economists disagree with you that the stimulus did nothing.  As for Obama costing us more than Bush?  Here's a little more info on that.  

Of course we disagree on this.  lol  I'm a liberal, and you are conservative.  However, you still have not given me specifics on how the Republicans will do better, if not worse.  

Quoting candlegal:

Hey, I didn't agree with a lot that Bush did but starting with the stimulus that didn't stimulate anything, Obama has cost us more money in 3 1/2 years than Bush did in 8.  I don't believe in bailouts and what the american taxpayers are now on the hook for.   

We will have to agree to disagree on this because I don't believe the Democrats know how to do anything that will help us out of the mess we are in.

Quoting PurdueMom:

It will take Republicans 2 years to undo what happened?  That should be much easier than Obama had to undo what happened in Bush's 8 years.  2 years of a Democrat-controlled House and Senate?   .... Are you sure about that?

I understand the frustration and hatred for a president you don't like or trust.  I suffered through that with Dubya, so I'm not totally unsympathetic to your concerns.  I just happen to believe the way to save this nation is not in the direction the Republicans wish to take us - their way or the highway and no compromise.  You must believe the Republicans can do better.... although I've never really seen you give specifics as to how but rather just your negative opinion of Obama.  Perhaps you can enlighten me? 

If Romney wins the White House and the Repubs get the Senate, I am very concerned what may happen.   It's just that every economist and expert I trust tells me the Republicans have it wrong...  And then there's the issue of the possibility of the next president appointing a Supreme Court Justice.  *shivers to think of another conservative on the Court*

Obama/Biden 2012! (if not then...) 

Hilary Clinton 2016!   :)

Quoting candlegal:

I will take at least 2 years of that so we can undue what happened in Obama's first 2 years when he had a Dem house and senate.  I am sure you would be concerned about a republican majority just as many of us are and were over a Democrat majority

Quoting PurdueMom:

I'm hopeful that when the presidential debates start more Democrats or independents get more involved.  

I have so much to say about what I believe will happen if the Republicans gain the White House and Senate, as well as keep the House.... but it might just have to happen for people to see there has to be a return to compromise and bi-partisanship as in past administrations.  A Republican-majority government greatly concerns me.

So many of us put our faith and hope in President Obama's presidency.  I have been disappointed in him in many instances, but I also believe he has done a lot of good that goes unnoticed or ignored.  I still have faith in him and will vote for him in November.






mommygiggles317
by Bronze Member on Jul. 28, 2012 at 3:55 PM


Quoting Clairwil:






I like this... sad how history repeats itself...smh...

love you signExercising Knowledge, Wisdom and Understanding...

candlegal
by Judy on Jul. 28, 2012 at 3:56 PM

P.S.   :)    And the Dem congress Bush had to deal with had nothing to do with any of this, right?

Quoting PurdueMom:

Economists disagree with you that the stimulus did nothing.  As for Obama costing us more than Bush?  Here's a little more info on that.  

Of course we disagree on this.  lol  I'm a liberal, and you are conservative.  However, you still have not given me specifics on how the Republicans will do better, if not worse.  

Quoting candlegal:

Hey, I didn't agree with a lot that Bush did but starting with the stimulus that didn't stimulate anything, Obama has cost us more money in 3 1/2 years than Bush did in 8.  I don't believe in bailouts and what the american taxpayers are now on the hook for.   

We will have to agree to disagree on this because I don't believe the Democrats know how to do anything that will help us out of the mess we are in.

Quoting PurdueMom:

It will take Republicans 2 years to undo what happened?  That should be much easier than Obama had to undo what happened in Bush's 8 years.  2 years of a Democrat-controlled House and Senate?   .... Are you sure about that?

I understand the frustration and hatred for a president you don't like or trust.  I suffered through that with Dubya, so I'm not totally unsympathetic to your concerns.  I just happen to believe the way to save this nation is not in the direction the Republicans wish to take us - their way or the highway and no compromise.  You must believe the Republicans can do better.... although I've never really seen you give specifics as to how but rather just your negative opinion of Obama.  Perhaps you can enlighten me? 

If Romney wins the White House and the Repubs get the Senate, I am very concerned what may happen.   It's just that every economist and expert I trust tells me the Republicans have it wrong...  And then there's the issue of the possibility of the next president appointing a Supreme Court Justice.  *shivers to think of another conservative on the Court*

Obama/Biden 2012! (if not then...) 

Hilary Clinton 2016!   :)

Quoting candlegal:

I will take at least 2 years of that so we can undue what happened in Obama's first 2 years when he had a Dem house and senate.  I am sure you would be concerned about a republican majority just as many of us are and were over a Democrat majority

Quoting PurdueMom:

I'm hopeful that when the presidential debates start more Democrats or independents get more involved.  

I have so much to say about what I believe will happen if the Republicans gain the White House and Senate, as well as keep the House.... but it might just have to happen for people to see there has to be a return to compromise and bi-partisanship as in past administrations.  A Republican-majority government greatly concerns me.

So many of us put our faith and hope in President Obama's presidency.  I have been disappointed in him in many instances, but I also believe he has done a lot of good that goes unnoticed or ignored.  I still have faith in him and will vote for him in November.






PurdueMom
by Sherri on Jul. 29, 2012 at 12:19 AM

I suppose they had as much to do with this mess as the previous congress and the current congress.

Still waiting on specifics on how the Republicans will do better.

Quoting candlegal:

P.S.   :)    And the Dem congress Bush had to deal with had nothing to do with any of this, right?

Quoting PurdueMom:

Economists disagree with you that the stimulus did nothing.  As for Obama costing us more than Bush?  Here's a little more info on that.  

Of course we disagree on this.  lol  I'm a liberal, and you are conservative.  However, you still have not given me specifics on how the Republicans will do better, if not worse.  

Quoting candlegal:

Hey, I didn't agree with a lot that Bush did but starting with the stimulus that didn't stimulate anything, Obama has cost us more money in 3 1/2 years than Bush did in 8.  I don't believe in bailouts and what the american taxpayers are now on the hook for.   

We will have to agree to disagree on this because I don't believe the Democrats know how to do anything that will help us out of the mess we are in.

Quoting PurdueMom:

It will take Republicans 2 years to undo what happened?  That should be much easier than Obama had to undo what happened in Bush's 8 years.  2 years of a Democrat-controlled House and Senate?   .... Are you sure about that?

I understand the frustration and hatred for a president you don't like or trust.  I suffered through that with Dubya, so I'm not totally unsympathetic to your concerns.  I just happen to believe the way to save this nation is not in the direction the Republicans wish to take us - their way or the highway and no compromise.  You must believe the Republicans can do better.... although I've never really seen you give specifics as to how but rather just your negative opinion of Obama.  Perhaps you can enlighten me? 

If Romney wins the White House and the Repubs get the Senate, I am very concerned what may happen.   It's just that every economist and expert I trust tells me the Republicans have it wrong...  And then there's the issue of the possibility of the next president appointing a Supreme Court Justice.  *shivers to think of another conservative on the Court*

Obama/Biden 2012! (if not then...) 

Hilary Clinton 2016!   :)

Quoting candlegal:

I will take at least 2 years of that so we can undue what happened in Obama's first 2 years when he had a Dem house and senate.  I am sure you would be concerned about a republican majority just as many of us are and were over a Democrat majority

Quoting PurdueMom:

I'm hopeful that when the presidential debates start more Democrats or independents get more involved.  

I have so much to say about what I believe will happen if the Republicans gain the White House and Senate, as well as keep the House.... but it might just have to happen for people to see there has to be a return to compromise and bi-partisanship as in past administrations.  A Republican-majority government greatly concerns me.

So many of us put our faith and hope in President Obama's presidency.  I have been disappointed in him in many instances, but I also believe he has done a lot of good that goes unnoticed or ignored.  I still have faith in him and will vote for him in November.







Sherri

Citygirlk
by Gold Member on Jul. 29, 2012 at 12:24 AM
And how long will it take to finish up cleaning bush's mess.

Quoting candlegal:

I will take at least 2 years of that so we can undue what happened in Obama's first 2 years when he had a Dem house and senate.  I am sure you would be concerned about a republican majority just as many of us are and were over a Democrat majority

Quoting PurdueMom:

I'm hopeful that when the presidential debates start more Democrats or independents get more involved.  

I have so much to say about what I believe will happen if the Republicans gain the White House and Senate, as well as keep the House.... but it might just have to happen for people to see there has to be a return to compromise and bi-partisanship as in past administrations.  A Republican-majority government greatly concerns me.

So many of us put our faith and hope in President Obama's presidency.  I have been disappointed in him in many instances, but I also believe he has done a lot of good that goes unnoticed or ignored.  I still have faith in him and will vote for him in November.


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