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Should He Keep His Guns?

Posted by on Jul. 30, 2012 at 11:50 AM
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In recent weeks I have had the opportunity to work with a woman whom I will call Lilly. Lilly and her husband got counseling with their minister at the church they attended. Husband complained that Lilly needed counseling for pre menopause. As he described as irrational behavior and stated to his minister that he needed help coping with wife's behavior.  Minister suggested that the two get separated to save the marriage and seek more intense therapy with him. Husband help Lilly move out into an apartment and solicited their friends and family in the move.  Lilly ask husband for some of her personal things at the family home. Husband stated that either he was busy or wasn't ready to except her personal thing being moved as he expected for her to move back. Lilly went to the family home why he was taking a vacation with his friends. While in the house Lilly found hand guns, evidence of drug use, alcohol etc. Husband was sober for the entire 10 year marriage, nor did he do drugs. He never went hunting nor shown any interest in firearms nor was there any in the home during the marriage. Several weeks later Lilly found out that for almost two years of the marriage he was seeing someone else.  The counseling thing and him blaming her that she was crazy was all a rouse to try and have her look crazy. When lilly confronted him, he became angry and threating and she became concerned since he had hand guns. Lilly went back to the family home took the hand guns and all her remaining possessions.  Lilly then turned over the guns to the State Police and filed a PFA against him.

Here is the question: Should the courts order to give the handguns back to him or is it more prudent to keep them out of his hands?

Posted by on Jul. 30, 2012 at 11:50 AM
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sweet-a-kins
by TheRoundTable on Jul. 30, 2012 at 11:53 AM
As long as they were legal, they are his

But as his wife, she may have been within her rights to give their communal property away..that's for a judge

If you have a PFA against you, are you legally allowed to own a gun?
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protector
by Member on Jul. 30, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Court gave back the guns at the PFA hearing last week. This women is living in fear everyday. At the PFA hearing he made a big show and asked for protection from her stating she was crazy and feared for his life.

momof31995
by Silver Member on Jul. 30, 2012 at 12:04 PM
They are his guns.
Donna6503
by Gold Member on Jul. 30, 2012 at 12:33 PM
I'll let the courts handle this issue; from where I stand, I don't no all the facts.
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resipsa
by Member on Jul. 30, 2012 at 12:39 PM

she is crazy. give him back his guns.

 

sweet-a-kins
by TheRoundTable on Jul. 30, 2012 at 12:46 PM
Was he granted a PFA against her?

Quoting protector:

Court gave back the guns at the PFA hearing last week. This women is living in fear everyday. At the PFA hearing he made a big show and asked for protection from her stating she was crazy and feared for his life.

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by Wenchy on Jul. 30, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Both of them need a lot of help, since they have never learned coping skills. It might lead to a more amicable divorce. 

ETA: Kudos to the minister for convincing them to separate. He clearly saw something there.

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Lizardannie1966
by LC Mama on Jul. 30, 2012 at 12:54 PM

They're his guns. Did he threaten her WITH the guns or say he was going to use them on her?

I feel sorry for your friend, however. She's had to endure so much. Has she considered a restraining order and would that help? Is that what a PFA is?

mommychelle01
by Bronze Member on Jul. 30, 2012 at 12:56 PM

I don't have an answer to the question... but what a jerk. I can't imagine how that woman must be feeling right now.

I guess legally, the guns are his.. but if she feels like he is a threat to himself or others, she can court order him into a facility for mental health or rehab.

protector
by Member on Jul. 30, 2012 at 1:50 PM
He did not succeed in a PFA either. It was a he said she said case. Ultimate as I said before he was given his guns back. He did threaten her with bodly harm, what causes her alarm. This is not characteristic of him to just go out and buy 3 guns. He NEVER showed an interest in them before per her statmentments. In today's environment you don't know what people are thinking and when does one say I should have said or did something. I agree with other poster the minister did the right thing. He was totally manipulating this women in my opinion.
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