Join the Meeting Place for Moms!
Talk to other moms, share advice, and have fun!

(minimum 6 characters)

Do you think this is a hate crime?

Posted by   + Show Post

Police: Mich. student attack not likely hate crime

DETROIT –  A Michigan State University student said he was attacked at an off-campus party by two men who asked if he was Jewish, and when he said he was, punched him and then stapled his mouth.

"It's shameful that in 21st century America, such religious hatred exists in our country," Zach Tennen, a 19-year-old sophomore, said in a statement emailed to The Associated Press. "No one should ever be subjected to the horror I experienced."

But police in East Lansing said Tuesday the incident probably isn't a hate crime, and neither police nor Tennen's statement provided details about the attack, including how many people were present.

East Lansing police did not return several calls from The Associated Press asking for more information. The department's statement said the assault was "not likely a hate crime," but did not explain the criteria for classifying a case as a hate crime or why the Tennen assault did not rise to that level.

The statement said police have located two witnesses and identified a potential suspect, who "does not live in the area."

Michigan State spokesman Kent Cassella said because the incident took place off campus, questions about the investigation should be directed to East Lansing police. Cassella said the university had reached out to Tennen's family "to provide the academic and other support" he needs.

"MSU will work with the student and his professors to ensure he can fulfill his academic requirements, as we would with any student in need," Cassella said.

Tennen, who is from the Detroit suburb of Franklin, was recovering Tuesday from jaw surgery and did not immediately respond to a message left with follow-up questions. The attack took place early Sunday.

Stephen Goldman, executive director of the Holocaust Memorial Center in Farmington Hills, said while he and others at the center "abhor bias-type incidents," they are rare in Michigan, which he said is known for its "progressive" thinking.

"I would not expect it in East Lansing any more than I would expect it here" in (the Detroit area), Goldman said. "This is a very accepting area."

You just randomly ask someone if they are a specific religion, then you punch them and staple their mouth...yea definitely not a hate crime.

Give me a break! What crap!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/28/jewish-student-religious-hatred-fueled-assault/

by on Aug. 29, 2012 at 12:54 AM
Replies (21-30):
12hellokitty
by Platinum Member on Aug. 29, 2012 at 11:38 AM


Quoting Mommy_of_Riley:

If it happened exactly like the kid said then Yes it is a Hate Crime.

However the police say they have witnesses and such so maybe there is more to the story and it was just a vicious attack.


This is why I don't agree with hate crime laws.  Regardless if the attack was because the young man is Jewish or just because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time, he should receive the same justice under the law and the perpetrator should receive the same punishment. 

collectivecow
by Gold Member on Aug. 29, 2012 at 11:54 AM

??

Quoting Grainia:

FFS


candlegal
by Judy on Aug. 29, 2012 at 11:56 AM

It makes you wonder what they know if they aren't calling it a hate crime.

muslimahpj
by Ruby Member on Aug. 29, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Unless there is more to the story that we dont know about, yes, it's a hate crime.

muslimahpj
by Ruby Member on Aug. 29, 2012 at 12:02 PM


Quoting ramonafrog:

Yes. But bacon is not. Js.

Bacon, in and of itself is not a hate crime, but, what people do with it will determine if it is or not.

What if the attackers had placed bacon on this boy, Jews dont eat pork either, would you brush it off?


ramita
by Member on Aug. 29, 2012 at 12:04 PM
Hate crime for sure!!
Posted on CafeMom Mobile
collectivecow
by Gold Member on Aug. 29, 2012 at 12:04 PM

If my guess is correct - it's because they didn't use slurs.

Quoting candlegal:

It makes you wonder what they know if they aren't calling it a hate crime.


collectivecow
by Gold Member on Aug. 29, 2012 at 12:06 PM
1 mom liked this

Well, I don't believe anyone just 'happens to be carrying' bacon around in their trunk. I heard the reply for the guy and it was just awkward. Trash gets picked up daily in New York, so there really is no excuse as to why he couldn't throw it away in his garbage can.

Quoting muslimahpj:
Quoting ramonafrog:
Yes. But bacon is not. Js.

Bacon, in and of itself is not a hate crime, but, what people do with it will determine if it is or not.

What if the attackers had placed bacon on this boy, Jews dont eat pork either, would you brush it off?


Grainia
by Member on Aug. 29, 2012 at 12:10 PM


Quoting collectivecow:

??

Quoting Grainia:

FFS


For Fuck's Sake

ramonafrog
by Bronze Member on Aug. 29, 2012 at 12:11 PM

I do not care one iota about the bacon, placed on any person. My opinion is the same now about the bacon as before... it was childish. I do however care about the violent act of punching someone then stapling his mouth.

Quoting muslimahpj:


Quoting ramonafrog:

Yes. But bacon is not. Js.

Bacon, in and of itself is not a hate crime, but, what people do with it will determine if it is or not.

What if the attackers had placed bacon on this boy, Jews dont eat pork either, would you brush it off?


Add your quick reply below:
You must be a member to reply to this post.
Join the Meeting Place for Moms!
Talk to other moms, share advice, and have fun!

(minimum 6 characters)



Featured