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The Gay Marriage Debate: Brought to you by Contraception

Posted by on Aug. 29, 2012 at 12:02 PM
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The Gay Marriage Debate: Brought to you by Contraception

Steve Skojec

by Steve Skojec
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ContraceptionI’ve been reflecting on some of the comments on my most recent post. Again and again, gay marriage advocates come to the debate insisting that marriage is a fundamental civil right, which begs the question. This assumption would not be possible if certain logical fallacies did not already commonly exist.

First, there is the false notion that marriage is a right. Marriage is not a right — not for anyone — it is a license. The difference between freedom and license no longer being widely understood, an easy way to distinguish a right from a license is that in the case of a license, you typically have to obtain a license to have permission to perform the action. Driving requires a license. Starting a business requires a license. Being a barber requires a license. And of course, getting married requires a license.

Licenses may be denied on various grounds, at the discretion of the issuing body. Driver’s licenses may be refused if the driver has too many moving violations or a DUI, for example. Marriage licenses will not be issued in most states to people wanting to marry their first cousin. Closer lines of consanguinity are against the law everywhere. Bigamy is illegal. Polygamy is also illegal. (You won’t see anyone getting a marriage license that will allow them to marry their car, for that matter, though there are some who would wish it so.) There are plenty of circumstances in which the state legitimately denies the request of persons wishing to be married.

So if we accept that marriage is not a right, but a license, then there must be some reasoning behind why the state is involved in issuing licenses for marriage at all. In most cultures, marriage is something sacred, far above and beyond a civil contract. But if there is a government imperative to regulate marriage in any degree, then it must mean that marriage has some impact upon the society being governed.

Of course it does. Marriage is the most natural and stable context for the procreation and education of children (always what the Catholic Church has noted as the primary end of marriage) which, in turn, provides citizens for the nation. Families are the building blocks of civilization. It stands to reason that governments have an imperative to protect them, and even to promote them. This isn’t a position based on religion. Consider, for example, “The Secular Case Against Gay Marriage” written by Adam Kolasinski, a doctoral student in financial economics at MIT:

When a state recognizes a marriage, it bestows upon the couple certain benefits which are costly to both the state and other individuals. Collecting a deceased spouse’s social security, claiming an extra tax exemption for a spouse, and having the right to be covered under a spouse’s health insurance policy are just a few examples of the costly benefits associated with marriage. In a sense, a married couple receives a subsidy. Why? Because a marriage between two unrelated heterosexuals is likely to result in a family with children, and propagation of society is a compelling state interest. For this reason, states have, in varying degrees, restricted from marriage couples unlikely to produce children.

If the propagation of society is “a compelling state interest,” it stands to reason that the state would enact legislation to protect the institution which enables this action. Bigamy and polygamy are widely considered to be bad for the stability of a family unit, which explains why both of these situations are illegal under current marriage regulations. Bigamists and polygamists may believe they are being discriminated against, but I’m not certain that anyone is currently very interested in taking those arguments seriously. From what I’ve seen, most gay marriage advocates seem rather interested in distancing themselves from promoting these unpopular sexual ideologies, despite the fact that they are the logical consequence of promoting any sort of non-traditional marriage that involves consenting adults.

So would gay marriage be beneficial to society? Putting aside the biblical and magisterial proscriptions which I take as a given in a Catholic forum such as this, I don’t see how it would be. Even committed homosexual relationships — including marriages — are more likely to involve promiscuous behavior that is consented to by both partners. There is new evidence that children in gay households experience a negative impact on development. And of course the most obvious problem should be taken into account – by their very nature, homosexual relationships are infertile, meaning that there is no inherent capacity in these relationships toward the procreation and education of children. If the defining characteristic of marriage as a positive good to society is that it provides the best and most stable and natural context for bringing new citizens into the nation, gay marriage fundamentally fails to pass muster.

But this is where the argument for traditional marriage begins to break down. It’s been quite a long time since the defining characteristic of marriage, from a societal standpoint, had anything to do with children. With the advent of modern techniques for contraception in the 20th century, it has become increasingly easy (and common) for marriage and children to be mutually exclusive.

As Catholics, we must understand this: Sterile sex is unnatural sex. When unnatural sex has become commonplace, as it has in a contraceptive culture, it becomes intellectually impossible to make significant distinctions between homosexual sex and contraceptive heterosexual sex. By removing openness to procreation as the fundamental defining characteristic of legitimate marital sexual intimacy, we have embraced any and all sexual relations that express emotional love as the sort of relations which are proper to marriage.

In a 2008 article, Hoover Institution research fellow and author Mary Eberstadt made note of this blurring of the lines from the perspective of the Anglican Church:

By giving benediction in 1930 to its married heterosexual members purposely seeking sterile sex, the Anglican Church lost, bit by bit, any authority to tell her other members—married or unmarried, homosexual or heterosexual—not to do the same. To put the point another way, once heterosexuals start claiming the right to act as homosexuals, it would not be long before homosexuals start claiming the rights of heterosexuals.

Thus in a bizarre but real sense did Lambeth’s attempt to show compassion to married heterosexuals inadvertently give rise to the modern gay-rights movement—and consequently, to the issues that have divided their church ever since. It is hard to believe that anyone seeking a similar change in Catholic teaching on the subject would want the Catholic Church to follow suit into the moral and theological confusion at the center of today’s Anglican Church—yet such is the purposeful ignorance of so many who oppose Rome on birth control that they refuse to connect these cautionary historical dots.

We reap what we sow. The contraceptive approach to human sexuality has a domino effect, with more far-reaching implications than many who have championed it ever imagined. When sexual love is no longer inherently life-giving, it quickly becomes permissive, self-centered, hedonistic. This is true in all relationships, including heterosexual ones. God, in His wisdom, balanced the raw power and pleasure of human sexual intimacy against the responsibility of creating and caring for a new human life. It is, perhaps, the only thing that could keep such a primal appetite in check.

If we are unable to regain this understanding of human sexuality as a culture, this is an argument we will never win. Voluntarily sterile heterosexual marriages are simply not sufficiently different from inherently sterile homosexual ones to make a cogent argument that one is superior to the other. And if one kind of sterile marriage is acceptable to society, why shouldn’t all of them be?

Advocacy of contraception undermines the case for traditional marriage. Being open to life in the marital act, as Catholic spouses are obligated to be, is the only philosophy of sexual intimacy that holds moral weight in the debate over marriage. If we cannot define marriage by its openness to children, we cannot really define it at all. Without such a definition, there’s simply no chance we will prevail in preserving the integrity of this institution which can (and has) become whatever people want it to be.

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_Kissy_
by on Aug. 29, 2012 at 12:15 PM
My spidey senses are telling me. Lesbian and on birth control, congrats..
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MicheleJM
by Bronze Member on Aug. 29, 2012 at 12:17 PM
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This gentleman is speaking from a strictlycatholic viewpoint. They dont believe in contraception either. Marriage offers more benefits to society than just conception. A stable home for both spouses, greater financial security if both spouses work, better health and emotional stability. If one looks at these benefits marriage, whether man/woman or homisexual, fertile or not, makes more sense.
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lizmarie1975
by Silver Member on Aug. 29, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Oh yeah...

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When sexual love is no longer inherently life-giving, it quickly becomes permissive, self-centered, hedonistic

candlegal
by Judy on Aug. 29, 2012 at 1:50 PM

of course he is, it is from a catholic website.   That doesn't make him wrong.

Quoting MicheleJM:

This gentleman is speaking from a strictlycatholic viewpoint. They dont believe in contraception either. Marriage offers more benefits to society than just conception. A stable home for both spouses, greater financial security if both spouses work, better health and emotional stability. If one looks at these benefits marriage, whether man/woman or homisexual, fertile or not, makes more sense.


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Donna6503
by Gold Member on Aug. 29, 2012 at 1:52 PM
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Yeah, we can never get enough debate about gay marriage here on CEHT.

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JoshRachelsMAMA
by Da Boss LadiEE on Aug. 29, 2012 at 1:54 PM
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I think that he does a very good job explaining his point of view. That it's "catholi-centric" really isn't the issue.

Quoting candlegal:

of course he is, it is from a catholic website.   That doesn't make him wrong.

Quoting MicheleJM:

This gentleman is speaking from a strictlycatholic viewpoint. They dont believe in contraception either. Marriage offers more benefits to society than just conception. A stable home for both spouses, greater financial security if both spouses work, better health and emotional stability. If one looks at these benefits marriage, whether man/woman or homisexual, fertile or not, makes more sense.



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candlegal
by Judy on Aug. 29, 2012 at 1:55 PM

to many on here, that will be the only issue

Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:

I think that he does a very good job explanining is point of view. That it's "catholi-centric" really isn't the issue.

Quoting candlegal:

of course he is, it is from a catholic website.   That doesn't make him wrong.

Quoting MicheleJM:

This gentleman is speaking from a strictlycatholic viewpoint. They dont believe in contraception either. Marriage offers more benefits to society than just conception. A stable home for both spouses, greater financial security if both spouses work, better health and emotional stability. If one looks at these benefits marriage, whether man/woman or homisexual, fertile or not, makes more sense.




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MicheleJM
by Bronze Member on Aug. 29, 2012 at 2:00 PM
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I think he is wrong. Marriage is more than for procreation. It is one of the sacraments...its a gift of grace, a gift from God. The author needs to read his catecism. One can be married and practice family planning. A catholic isnt supposed to use artificial birth control is all. As far as gay marriage I disagree with the church on that. I think one can make a argument that gay marriage can benefit society. Gay married people have the benefits I mentioned earlier. I fail to see how it hurts anyone.


Quoting candlegal:

of course he is, it is from a catholic website.   That doesn't make him wrong.

Quoting MicheleJM:

This gentleman is speaking from a strictlycatholic viewpoint. They dont believe in contraception either. Marriage offers more benefits to society than just conception. A stable home for both spouses, greater financial security if both spouses work, better health and emotional stability. If one looks at these benefits marriage, whether man/woman or homisexual, fertile or not, makes more sense.



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futureshock
by Ruby Member on Aug. 29, 2012 at 2:03 PM
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It is not true that "sterile" sex is unnatural sex.  People have sex whether they are fertile at a certain time of the month or if they are not (and they have sex during pregnancy).  People are also sexual past menopause.  One REASON for human beings to be sexual APART from procreation is to KEEP THE PARTNERSHIP together, which helps create the stability which is good for children.



krysstizzle
by DeepThought on Aug. 29, 2012 at 2:05 PM
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It makes him wrong to those who aren't catholic. I don't agree with his views. And our government isn't catholic either, so he's wrong on that front. 

Quoting candlegal:

of course he is, it is from a catholic website.   That doesn't make him wrong.

Quoting MicheleJM:

This gentleman is speaking from a strictlycatholic viewpoint. They dont believe in contraception either. Marriage offers more benefits to society than just conception. A stable home for both spouses, greater financial security if both spouses work, better health and emotional stability. If one looks at these benefits marriage, whether man/woman or homisexual, fertile or not, makes more sense.



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