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Blaming our troops

Posted by on Sep. 18, 2012 at 12:09 PM
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'Friendly' fire attacks have killed dozens of our heroes. The Pentagon's response? Ordering sensitivity training about Islam

Afghan security forces, our supposed allies, are slaughtering American troops. Thirty-three soldiers have been killed by “green on blue” attacks this year alone. The situation is so bad that the training of Afghan forces has been temporarily suspended.

How has the Pentagon responded?

By blaming our troops.

Top officials believe culturally offensive behavior is the motivation behind the killings, so it’s stepped up Islamic sensitivity training for our troops.

If you don’t want to be shot in the back by your Afghan training partners, the Pentagon advises, don’t offend their religious sensibilities. Don’t kick your feet up on a table, for instance, and never ask to see a picture of their wives and kids. “There’s a percentage [of attacks] which are cultural affronts,” Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey said in a recent interview.

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No matter how sensitive American soldiers are, Afghans continue to protest the United States.
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No matter how sensitive American soldiers are, Afghans continue to protest the United States.

Dempsey echoes the concerns of Gen. Sher Mohammad Karimi, the Afghan National Army’s chief of staff, who earlier this month argued both sides need to do more to “teach” foreign troops Islamic traditions and values to reduce the chance of violent reactions to cultural slights.

AFGHAN INSIDE ATTACK KILLS US TROOPS: OFFICIALS

“It is our duty to teach this to them. Our indifference about these issues causes the incident,” he said.

In the past three years, uniformed Afghans have murdered at least 97 US and NATO troops.

The Taliban has taken credit for many of the attacks, but the Pentagon has been reluctant to admit widespread infiltration of the Afghan security forces it’s training.

Standing up a national army and police force that can protect the US-sponsored government in Kabul is the linchpin of President Obama’s announced 2014 withdrawal strategy.

Some 120,000 American and other foreign troops mix closely with 350,000 Afghan security forces. Afghan trainees and guards are co-located on US bases, where they share bathrooms, gyms and mess halls.

To avoid offending them, US commanders are putting troops through intense Muslim sensitivity training. Among other things, they’ve been ordered to:

* Wear surgical gloves whenever handling a copy of the Koran.

* Never walk in front of a praying Muslim.

* Never show the bottom of boots while sitting or lying across from a Muslim, which in Islam is considered an insult.

* Never share photos of wives or daughters.

* Never smoke or eat in front of Muslims during the monthlong Ramadan fasting.

* Avoid winking, cursing or nose-blowing in the presence of Muslims — all viewed as insults in Islam.

* Avoid exiting the shower without a towel.

* Avoid offering and accepting things with the left hand, which in Islam is reserved for bodily hygiene and considered unclean.

Troops who violate the sensitivity rules face severe punishment.

Military officials who have done tours in Afghanistan are outraged that brass would even suggest US troops are partly to blame for their own murders.

“I would like to see a public affairs officer explain to the press where showing the bottom of your shoe to a Muslim or shaking with your left hand was legitimate grounds for murder,” growled one US Army official.

They say their Muslim partners would still resent them even if they followed their Islamic protocols to the letter.

“The cultural affronts excuse is a bunch of garbage,” a senior US Army intelligence official told me. “The Afghans that know we’re doing all this PC cultural sensitivity crap are laughing their asses off at our stupidity.”

Explained the intelligence official: “They’re killing us because we’re ‘infidels’ occupying Islamic lands. It’s what the Koran and every imam over there is telling them, and no amount of cultural sensitivity is going to stop that or change the fact that we’re ‘infidels.’ ”

Indeed, a Taliban video released last month revealed uniformed Afghans are itching for a chance to “kill infidels.”

“I opened fire on three Americans who were sitting together,” a rogue Afghan soldier, identified as Ghazi Mahmood, says while smiling for the camera. “The reason I killed them is because they have occupied our country. They are enemies of our religion.”

Internally, the military has acknowledged the larger religious problem. A May 2011 study commissioned by the US Army says “fratricidal” assaults by uniformed Afghans stem in part from Afghan religious attitudes that their American counterparts are “infidel bullies.” (The same report says US troops regarded their Afghan training partners as “treacherous and murderous radicals” secretly colluding with the Taliban.)

Further pointing up the absurdity of putting troops through Islamic finishing school: The intelligence official notes that if there are any truly obnoxious cultural offenses, they are committed by Afghan trainees quartered inside our bases.

“They like to stand on our toilets and poop all over them,” he said.

Why? They refuse to touch the toilet seats used by the “dirty infidels” they’re training and living with.

Paul Sperry is a Hoover Institution media fellow and author of “Infiltration.”

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_Kissy_
by on Sep. 18, 2012 at 12:13 PM
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Respect.

We're in their country.
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LindaClement
by Thatwoman on Sep. 18, 2012 at 12:14 PM
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They are not at home, they are in someone else's home. Being disrespectful isn't going to get them anywhere they want to go.

Waiting until everyone else is respectful before they are is a variety of 5yo 'tit for tat' that is something, but it sure as hell isn't World Leadership.

candlegal
by Judy on Sep. 18, 2012 at 12:14 PM
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Respect is right, they need to respect those that are there helping them.

Quoting _Kissy_:

Respect.

We're in their country.


KimmyShaw
by Member on Sep. 18, 2012 at 12:15 PM

OMG how f*cking absurd! I doubt any of them were "friendly" fires anyway.

UpSheRises
by Platinum Member on Sep. 18, 2012 at 12:17 PM
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They didn't really ask for our help, in fact, it seems like they'd very much like us to leave.

Quoting candlegal:

Respect is right, they need to respect those that are there helping them.

Quoting _Kissy_:

Respect.

We're in their country.



KimmyShaw
by Member on Sep. 18, 2012 at 12:18 PM

It has nothing to do with disrespect, they want to kill us no matter how much we help them or learn their ways:

“I opened fire on three Americans who were sitting together,” a rogue Afghan soldier, identified as Ghazi Mahmood, says while smiling for the camera. “The reason I killed them is because they have occupied our country. They are enemies of our religion.”

Quoting LindaClement:

They are not at home, they are in someone else's home. Being disrespectful isn't going to get them anywhere they want to go.

Waiting until everyone else is respectful before they are is a variety of 5yo 'tit for tat' that is something, but it sure as hell isn't World Leadership.


Mommy_of_Riley
by Jes on Sep. 18, 2012 at 12:19 PM
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It's called Respect.

As the wife of a Marine who teaches the "sensitivity" courses I can tell you that they do a lot of good. He has deployed multiple times and has great friends overseas.
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LindaClement
by Thatwoman on Sep. 18, 2012 at 12:20 PM
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'They' don't 'all' want anything. 'They' have as much variation in opinion as any other group of people.

This kind of stereotyping is as helpful as suggesting that 'they' who go to Batman movies 'all' want to shoot up theatres full of people.

One individual --and his mental issues or personal opinions-- is not a reason to forget that respect is leadership.

Quoting KimmyShaw:

It has nothing to do with disrespect, they want to kill us no matter how much we help them or learn their ways:

“I opened fire on three Americans who were sitting together,” a rogue Afghan soldier, identified as Ghazi Mahmood, says while smiling for the camera. “The reason I killed them is because they have occupied our country. They are enemies of our religion.”

Quoting LindaClement:

They are not at home, they are in someone else's home. Being disrespectful isn't going to get them anywhere they want to go.

Waiting until everyone else is respectful before they are is a variety of 5yo 'tit for tat' that is something, but it sure as hell isn't World Leadership.



Lizardannie1966
by on Sep. 18, 2012 at 12:21 PM
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with mutual respect. This will never happen in this world between countries and especially when you have troops in your backyard from another country.

Imagine, if you will, how we Americans might feel were the tables turned?

Oh wait...remember 9/11? A new (or in some instances, renewed) hatred toward the Muslim culture, religion and people began. Was beyond the worst type of hatred I've personally ever read, heard or seen.

So I am all for some "sensitivity training" for our troops. Some of them are going over there guns-a-blazing mentally and emotionally.

Not good. Not good at all.

kailu1835
by Ruby Member on Sep. 18, 2012 at 12:21 PM
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 They don't need sensitivity training, they need to be trained how to spot a "friendly" who wants to kill them.

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