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No Welfare State Here! *update*

Posted by on Sep. 26, 2012 at 3:44 PM
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I see many (MANY!) people denouncing 'welfare states' and social programs as inherently flawed, and, I admit, some programs are...but what I don't see (and I've asked quite a few times) is people discussing the Nordic Model...these countries run what is technically a welfare state, and are thriving with their systems in place...economies are good, people are healthy and happy, educations are world class, etc...why the opposition to trying to emulate some of their successful practices?

The Nordic model refers to the economic and social models of the Nordic countries (Denmark, Iceland, Norway, Sweden and Finland). This particular adaptation of the mixed market economy is characterised by a large degree of free market and deregulation policies along side "universalist" welfare states (relative to other developed countries), which are aimed specifically at enhancing individual autonomy, ensuring the universal provision of basic human rights and stabilising the economy. It is distinguished from other welfare states with similar goals by its emphasis on maximising labour force participation, promoting gender equality, egalitarian and extensive benefit levels, large magnitude of redistribution, and liberal use of expansionary fiscal policy.[1] The Nordic Model however is not a single model with specific components or rules; each of the Nordic countries has its own economic and social models, sometimes with large differences from its neighbours.

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mommy_2_be_2010
by Bronze Member on Sep. 26, 2012 at 3:46 PM
Sorry you going to need to explain a little more the question threw me off
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ButterMeUp
by Silver Member on Sep. 26, 2012 at 3:46 PM
I've got nothing to add but I'd LOVE to see this debate
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LucyMom08
by Gold Member on Sep. 26, 2012 at 3:49 PM
What do you mean?

Quoting mommy_2_be_2010:

Sorry you going to need to explain a little more the question threw me off
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LucyMom08
by Gold Member on Sep. 26, 2012 at 3:49 PM
Me too :)

Quoting ButterMeUp:

I've got nothing to add but I'd LOVE to see this debate
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radioheid
by Libertarian on Sep. 26, 2012 at 3:50 PM

 Such as...?

Break it down and I'll see whether I agree or disagree, and we'll go from there.


"Roger that. Over."

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LucyMom08
by Gold Member on Sep. 26, 2012 at 3:51 PM
Break what down? The Nordic Model or opposition or what?

Quoting radioheid:

 Such as...?


Break it down and I'll see whether I agree or disagree, and we'll go from there.

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3gr8tKids
by Bronze Member on Sep. 26, 2012 at 3:51 PM
would it be considered by the conservatives as socialism?

Im just asking bc I am not familiar with this Nordic program.

Quoting LucyMom08:

I see many (MANY!) people denouncing 'welfare states' and social programs as inherently flawed, and, I admit, some programs are...but what I don't see (and I've asked quite a few times) is people discussing the Nordic Model...these countries run what is technically a welfare state, and are thriving with their systems in place...economies are good, people are healthy and happy, educations are world class, etc...why the opposition to trying to emulate some of their successful practices?


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radioheid
by Libertarian on Sep. 26, 2012 at 3:53 PM

 WTF is the Nordic Model, for starts?

I'm admittedly ignorant.

Quoting LucyMom08:

Break what down? The Nordic Model or opposition or what?

Quoting radioheid:

 Such as...?


Break it down and I'll see whether I agree or disagree, and we'll go from there.

 


"Roger that. Over."

R   A   D    I    O    H    E    I    D

mustbeGRACE
by on Sep. 26, 2012 at 3:53 PM
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Quoting LucyMom08:

Break what down? The Nordic Model or opposition or what?

Quoting radioheid:

 Such as...?


Break it down and I'll see whether I agree or disagree, and we'll go from there.

Do you really think the Nordic Model will work here?

Or ANY  model  ?

You'v e had your question answered SO SHUT IT DOWN  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  sidesplittinglaughter

LucyMom08
by Gold Member on Sep. 26, 2012 at 3:54 PM

 No, it's not...they place a huge emphasis on free market and deregulation...

Quoting 3gr8tKids:

would it be considered by the conservatives as socialism?

Im just asking bc I am not familiar with this Nordic program.

Quoting LucyMom08:

I see many (MANY!) people denouncing 'welfare states' and social programs as inherently flawed, and, I admit, some programs are...but what I don't see (and I've asked quite a few times) is people discussing the Nordic Model...these countries run what is technically a welfare state, and are thriving with their systems in place...economies are good, people are healthy and happy, educations are world class, etc...why the opposition to trying to emulate some of their successful practices?


 

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