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CREWS: Homosexuals in the military demand special privileges

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Toleration doesn’t cut both ways

The American armed forces exist to defend our nation, not to conduct social science lab experiments in which our troops serve as human subjects. Try telling that to this administration.

The first anniversary of the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” Sept. 20, has come and gone. Now, there is mounting evidence that proves our warnings were not idle chatter. The threat to freedom posed by this radical sexual experiment on our military is real: It is grave and it is growing.

Activists inside and outside our government who pushed the repeal have deployed a smoke screen around the fact that once the military was forced to exalt homosexuality in the ranks, the all-too-foreseen consequence reared its ugly head.

Senior military officials have allowed personnel in favor of repeal to speak to media while those who have concerns have been ordered to be silent. Two airmen were publicly harassed in a Post Exchange food court as they were privately discussing their concerns about the impact of repeal. A chaplain was encouraged by military officials to resign his commission unless he could “get in line with the new policy,” demonstrating no tolerance for that chaplain’s religious viewpoint. Another chaplain was threatened with early retirement, and then reassigned to be more “closely supervised” because he had expressed concerns with the policy change, again demonstrating no tolerance for that chaplain’s religious viewpoint.

At an officer training service school, a male serviceman sexually harassed another male serviceman through text messages, emails, phone calls and in-person confrontations. The harassing male insisted the two would “make a great couple.” The harassed serviceman reported the harassment, but the command failed to take disciplinary action.

Service members engaged in homosexual behavior protested a service school’s open-door policy for all students that prohibited the closing of room doors for the purpose of hiding sexual behavior. The protesters claimed that they had a right to participate in sexual behavior with their same-sex roommates.

A senior chaplain was stripped of his authority over the chapel under his charge because, in accordance with federal law, he proclaimed the chapel to be a “sacred space” where marriage ceremonies would only be between one man and one woman.

The Navy has allowed sailors openly engaged in homosexual behavior to choose their bunkmates. Imagine in this new age of “tolerance” if a sailor asked to be moved from a close-quarters berthing area because of his concern about another sailor’s sexual appetites. We already know what would happen, because tolerance has never been a two-way street.

Obviously, the recent “study” (aka propaganda) claiming that the repeal went off without a hitch should be shredded post-haste. It has no connection to reality.

This is just the first wave in the first year of the assault on the constitutionally protected freedom of our service members. Remember, the groups that forced their sexual experiment on the armed forces represent the lesbian, homosexual, bisexual and transgender community. It’s only a matter of time before a man who claims to be transgender demands to be placed with women during training, in the showers and in the barracks. The women in the units will have no recourse, especially if their objection to living, changing, bathing and bunking with a man is based on sincerely held religious beliefs. They would have two choices: Either accept this outrageous imposition silently or be charged with bigotry, hatred, intolerance and every other name the advocates of this agenda can throw at them. Neither choice is acceptable. When “sensitivity training” is in full force, these women just might face discipline and punitive separation merely for speaking up and requesting a reasonable measure of privacy and protection of their religious freedom.

This outrageous social science lab experiment could have been easily prevented. The Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty has worked closely with members of Congress to enact legislation, which has already passed the House, to protect freedom of conscience for chaplains and those they serve.

Even more outrageous is that we have to ask Congress to protect freedom of conscience for chaplains and those who serve in the military. The fact that Congress excluded a religious freedom protection amendment (authored in partnership with Alliance Defending Freedom), to the repeal sends a clear message that our current leadership does not consider, much less respect, the constitutional implications of their actions while they bow in allegiance to the powerful and aggressive lobby of those who supported the repeal.

Col. Ron Crews, a retired Army chaplain, is executive director for Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty.

by on Oct. 2, 2012 at 7:04 AM
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rfurlongg
by on Oct. 2, 2012 at 8:10 AM
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This article reads like the white supremacist op/ed of the 50's only it is about hetero supremacy. Like so many from the 50's I hope he grows and learns to view those with a different sexual orientation with compassion and worthy of equal treatment. Not seperate but equal, but truly equal.
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SilverSterling
by MrsSilverusSnape on Oct. 2, 2012 at 8:12 AM

Sadly that is a lesson some still need to learn in this day and age. I had hoped that way of thinking would eventually die out... Sadly I was wrong...

Quoting rfurlongg:

This article reads like the white supremacist op/ed of the 50's only it is about hetero supremacy. Like so many from the 50's I hope he grows and learns to view those with a different sexual orientation should be treated equally. Not separate but equal, but truly equal.


rfurlongg
by on Oct. 2, 2012 at 8:15 AM
You quoted me while I was editing, lol!
I realize there are still racist people, but they are the minority and they are not as vocal and hold less power. There will always be bigots, but hopefully less.


Quoting SilverSterling:

Sadly that is a lesson some still need to learn in this day and age. I had hoped that way of thinking would eventually die out... Sadly I was wrong...

Quoting rfurlongg:

This article reads like the white supremacist op/ed of the 50's only it is about hetero supremacy. Like so many from the 50's I hope he grows and learns to view those with a different sexual orientation should be treated equally. Not separate but equal, but truly equal.


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lga1965
by Ruby Member on Oct. 2, 2012 at 8:16 AM
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 AT first I thought this was from The Onion because it was so absurd and blatantly offensive ....but then I reaized it was just another homophobic, bigoted effort from a "Chaplain" who is supposed to be a man of God. And look who posted this! So predictable.

He calls gays in the military "a sexual experiment", not a fact of life that gays ARE serving in the Military. And he claims they "demand special privileges" . This Crews guy is discriminating against millions of our servicemen just because he "thinks" they are sinners. I am disgusted with him---he has a screw loose and he thinks he has the power to influence just because he was "a chaplain", a so-called religious man.

slashteddy
by Bronze Member on Oct. 2, 2012 at 8:16 AM
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Go figure. Female service members are raped, harassed, and sexually assaulted every day, but no one in the military cares; let a male harass another male and "It's all the gays' fault!"

JoshRachelsMAMA
by JRM on Oct. 2, 2012 at 8:16 AM
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But they can be forced.

That's the Bullshit.


Quoting SilverSterling:

They aren't forced too preform anything against their beliefs just like churches arent being forced to marry anyone they dont want too No matter how raciest or bigoted they might be (remember the white church that wouldnt marry a black couple who belonged there?)

They are forced to keep their bigoted thoughts to themselves and no longer permitted to voice a hateful hurtful position. They just don't like loosing control.. They bitched when the arm forces were forced (for lack of a better way of putting it) other faiths and beliefs. Some Christians have a problem with not being the center of attention. I think in some cases that is the problem in a nutshell. No one is taking away anyone Beliefs.. You can Believe what ever you want However You can not enforce or force your beliefs on anyone else nor can you act upon your beliefs.

Quoting sweet-a-kins:


This is Bs



Give one example of a church forced to perform or condone gay marriage




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rfurlongg
by on Oct. 2, 2012 at 8:20 AM
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Good point, especially after all the revelations of the Pentagon hiding sexual assaults. Although, women and men, gay and straight, serving in the armed forces should be treated and protected equally.

Quoting slashteddy:

Go figure. Female service members are raped, harassed, and sexually assaulted every day, but no one in the military cares; let a male harass another male and "It's all the gays' fault!"

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SEEKEROFSHELLS
by Platinum Member on Oct. 2, 2012 at 8:29 AM
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 Well a senior chaplain was stripped of his authority over a chapel, and some others were encouraged to resign if they couldn't get on board with the party line.  Seems to me they were still negative towards the part of their flock that was "gay," If you are in the military you have to " echo the party line," That's the way it has always been. Look what happened to the career of General Patton. He was a great military leader, didn't echo the party line, and it affected his career.  I also respect religious men, they have different views. Who am I to come between a chaplain and his " God?" I can't tell a priest or a minister what to believe. I would hope they recognize ALL men as created from God and quit with the discrimination. Focus on the good of the men, instead of what they percieve as sins. I don't understand the issue of marrying gays. If they are not protected by a union in the states how can they expect the military to marry them? Very interesting post and it brings up a lot of questions. 

butlerro1013
by Bronze Member on Oct. 2, 2012 at 8:31 AM
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This article is biased and ridiculous.

I am proud to live in a country that allows people to serve their country openly.  My niece is a gay soldier, and a damn good soldier.  She demands nothing above her fellow "battle buddies" and it matters to no one she serves with that she's a lesbian. 


romalove
by Roma on Oct. 2, 2012 at 8:34 AM

 

Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:

But they can be forced.

That's the Bullshit.


Quoting SilverSterling:

They aren't forced too preform anything against their beliefs just like churches arent being forced to marry anyone they dont want too No matter how raciest or bigoted they might be (remember the white church that wouldnt marry a black couple who belonged there?)

They are forced to keep their bigoted thoughts to themselves and no longer permitted to voice a hateful hurtful position. They just don't like loosing control.. They bitched when the arm forces were forced (for lack of a better way of putting it) other faiths and beliefs. Some Christians have a problem with not being the center of attention. I think in some cases that is the problem in a nutshell. No one is taking away anyone Beliefs.. You can Believe what ever you want However You can not enforce or force your beliefs on anyone else nor can you act upon your beliefs.

Quoting sweet-a-kins:


This is Bs



Give one example of a church forced to perform or condone gay marriage




 What would a military chaplain do that would require him to do something for gay people that is different from straight people?

I mean, from what I understand, this isn't about being forced to marry anyone, right?

Do the chaplains not want to minister to someone openly gay? 

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