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 Why does the debate matter? 

Will it give people a clearer picture of the policies being touted by both sides and therefore enlighten voters better?

Or is it to see if the better debater can win an hour show and therefore make the righteous feel better about their party?

by on Oct. 4, 2012 at 8:31 PM
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mommyintraining
by Member on Oct. 4, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Will it give people a clearer picture of the policies being touted by both sides and therefore enlighten voters better?

Sounds intelligent and accurate...the true reason for the debates in the first place

Or is it to see if the better debater can win an hour show and therefore make the righteous feel better about their party?

sounds like bitterness spewed from a poor loser....if Obama had won last nights debate, would you propose this question with the same choice of words?

FromAtoZ
by AllieCat on Oct. 4, 2012 at 8:52 PM
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For me, it wasn't so much the 'debating' aspect as it was wanting to really hear what Romney has to offer.  Not his attacks against the President and the current Administration.  I wanted to hear some clear and concise answers.  

I don't buy in to the whole 'he won' and 'he lost'.  I never have.  No one won and no one lost.  Outside of what the media says, of course, and we all know how many follow along with what they are told.

I was not enlightened about any thing in regards to Romney.  I was disappointed.  

Euphoric
by Bazinga! on Oct. 4, 2012 at 8:53 PM

 I agree.

Quoting Godgaveme4:

 I do not think it matters.  It is like another political commercial. 

 

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katy_kay08
by on Oct. 4, 2012 at 8:55 PM
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Why I think Romney actually lost, all anyone is talking about is his trying to cut the legs out from under Big Bird.  While he may have had style it's pretty obvious he didn't have substance because no one is dancing around praising anything he said.  

MomTiara19
by Bronze Member on Oct. 4, 2012 at 8:56 PM

The debate is important but you really should know the candidates policies and why you are voting for them.This election is extremely crucial to me because in all my 45 years I actually fear Romney.I have NEVER before been so frightened of a candidate.He lies and acts fake like he breaths. Romney changes his views and policies constantly.He says whatever lies he needs to to win...and to win presidency only for the rich.He may be a charming performer and actor on stage but in reality he has no concern for the poor and middle class and government assistance.

Who is the real Mitt....the one who said I have no concern for %47 of those people.

~Tia

 

FromAtoZ
by AllieCat on Oct. 4, 2012 at 8:56 PM
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Quoting toomanypoodles:

 

Quoting turtle68:

 So whoever "wins" the debate....wins the presidential race.

Quoting toomanypoodles:

You're kidding right? The vote was decided last night. That debate was VERY telling.

 Watch those poll numbers increase now for Romney.  His support went up last night.  There's a very good chance that he will win the election based on his stellar performance last night.

Sorry, Obama bombed. 

The fact that some feel Romney's performance was stellar scares me.

If he should win the election and it is found to be based, in part, on his performance last night, this country is far worse off, intellectually and otherwise, than I thought.

My statement above has nothing to do with the President. I am basing my opinion on Romney and what people call his 'stellar' performance.  

What do you think those who are undecided learned about Romney last night, that is of importance and not just that he can attack?

"A bird doesn't sing because it has an answer, it sings because it has a song." ~ Maya Angelou

Lizardannie1966
by on Oct. 4, 2012 at 8:57 PM

Gives us a chance to see where the candidates truly stand on issues in their own words and their own voices and not have to rely on biased media reports and supporters from either side who've spent an enormous amount of time trashing the candidates and THEIR supporters.

And then we can come back to forums like this one or find cutesy little Rotten eCards as well as photo shopped photos of the candidates and/or their families that have negative, disrespectful things written on them and post them on our Facebook profiles. Why? Because we've been enlightened.

Soooo...so yeah....the debates can be these incredibly eye-opening, enlightening televised events that gives us pause and helps to decide..... or makes us want to move to another country...take your pick.

Sisteract
by Whoopie on Oct. 4, 2012 at 8:58 PM
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He expects that we will vote MR and trust him.

UM, trust a man that was caught on tape throwing 47% of our citizenry, many in his own base, under the bus?

Does he really think people are that ignorant and desperate?

If his plan is so great and superior, disclose it- convince us all.

Quoting FromAtoZ:

For me, it wasn't so much the 'debating' aspect as it was wanting to really hear what Romney has to offer.  Not his attacks against the President and the current Administration.  I wanted to hear some clear and concise answers.  

I don't buy in to the whole 'he won' and 'he lost'.  I never have.  No one won and no one lost.  Outside of what the media says, of course, and we all know how many follow along with what they are told.

I was not enlightened about any thing in regards to Romney.  I was disappointed.  


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turtle68
by Mahinaarangi on Oct. 4, 2012 at 9:04 PM

 

Quoting mommyintraining:

Will it give people a clearer picture of the policies being touted by both sides and therefore enlighten voters better?

Sounds intelligent and accurate...the true reason for the debates in the first place

Or is it to see if the better debater can win an hour show and therefore make the righteous feel better about their party?

sounds like bitterness spewed from a poor loser....if Obama had won last nights debate, would you propose this question with the same choice of words?

 Yes I would of....I dont understand it.

Im a foreigner this doesnt happen here.  It is basically the main policies of each party are put to the public.  We vote based on those.  We know they lie and the smaller stuff may become bigger issues during their time in office, and they will either sink the party the next time around or make them swim for another 4 years. 

We also dont get a choice to not vote.  It is mandatory to vote here.

(I did however think as hindsight that I should of added "or be upset that their candidate lost") 

 

turtle68
by Mahinaarangi on Oct. 4, 2012 at 9:10 PM

 

Quoting katy_kay08:

Dick Morris's Hilariously Dumb Misunderstanding of the "Incumbent Rule"

The funniest prank that Fox News plays on viewers occurs every other night, when freelance strategist Dick Morris -- a former Clintonite who now despises Democrats -- lurches in front of a camera and explains that Republicans will win everything. In 2010, Morris used his multiple media platforms, including the stages of Tea Party events, to ask for donations to his Super PAC for America. Give him enough, and "we could win an additional 50 seats, giving Republicans 100 new seats for this Congress!" (Read Brad Plumer for more about this. It was hilarious.)

This morning I gave a link to Morris's latest Fox News appearance, but I somehow missed out on his latest long treatise on why the polls are wrong and Mitt Romney's going to win. The knee-slapper comes when Morris describes the "incumbent rule."

Almost all of the published polls show Obama getting less than 50% of the vote and less than 50% job approval. A majority of the voters either support Romney or are undecided in almost every poll.
But the fact is that the undecided vote always goes against the incumbent... an undecided voter has really decided not to back the incumbent. He just won’t focus on the race until later in the game.
So, when the published poll shows Obama ahead by, say, 48-45, he’s really probably losing by 52-48!

Got that? According to Morris, literally 100 percent of "undecided" voters will eventually vote against Barack Obama. Leaving aside how the theory ignores spillover to write-ins and third-party candidates, this is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Nate Silver, bless him, has already explained why the "incumbent rule" doesn't actually exist. "The challenging candidate has typically been underrated by head-to-head polls when he is still engaged in a heated primary battle, when his name recognition is low, or both," wrote Silver. "These effects seem to evaporate by April of the election year or so, when the result of the nomination process is likely to have become clear and when the presumptive nominee is likely to have become widely known to voters."

That deals with the pre-election polls. The exit polls tell us the rest of the story about how undecided voters feel about incumbents. In the last presidential race with an incumbent on the ballot, 2004, we can define "undecided" voters as the ones who made up their mind in the polling booth. In 2004, only 52 percent of these people chose John Kerry over George W. Bush.

Back to Morris. There's literally no evidence that undecided voters will break the way he says they're breaking. But he's telling an audience of voters -- and more importantly for him, potential consumers -- that the media is covering up how Mitt Romney's winning the election. It's silly, and at the same time it lays the ground for endless paranoia if Romney doesn't win.

 I dont really see how that is that stupid.  If I like the incumbent then Im going to vote for the incumbent.  If I am sitting on the fence its because Im not happy with the incumbent but just as not happy with the opponent.  I could be swayed to the new guy / gal

However if something was to swing me it would be the leadup policies that they stand for over a period of time...not an hour show where answers arent given or policies detailed.

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