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The First Debate: Mitt Romney's Five Biggest Lies

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The First Debate: Mitt Romney's Five Biggest Lies

The truth behind that $5 trillion tax cut, pre-existing conditions and more

  
President Barack Obama and Mitt Romney at the first Presidential Debate.
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October 4, 2012 9:32 AM ET

Mitt Romney turned in a polished performance in last night's presidential debate - and revealed himself to be an accomplished and unapologetic liar. In an evening where he sought to slice and dice the president with statistics, Romney baldly misrepresented his own policy prescriptions, made up numbers to fit his attacks and buried clear contrasts with the president under a heaping pile of horseshit.

Here are mendacious Mitt's five most outrageous statements:

1. "I don't have a $5 trillion tax cut." Romney flatly lied about the cost of his proposal to cut income-tax rates across the board by another 20 percent (undercutting even the low rates of the Bush tax cuts). Independent economists at the Tax Policy Center have shown that the price tag for those cuts is $360 billion in the first year, a cost that extrapolates to $5 trillion over a decade.

2. "I will not reduce the taxes paid by high-income Americans." Romney has claimed that he will pay for his tax cuts by closing a variety of loopholes and deductions. The factual problem? Romney hasn't named a single loophole he's willing to close; worse, there's no way to offset $5 trillion in tax cuts even if you get rid of the entire universe of deductions for the wealthy that Romney has not put off the table (like the carried interest loophole or the 15 percent capital gains rate.) The Tax Policy Center report concludes that Romney's proposal would create a "net tax cut for high-income tax payers and a net tax increase for lower- and or middle-income taxpayers." Moreover, some of Romney's tax cuts are micro-targeted at American dynasties, particularly his proposal to eliminate the estate tax, which would reduce his own sons' tax burden by tens of millions of dollars.

3. "We've got 23 million people out of work or [who have] stopped looking for work in this country." Romney is lying for effect. The nation's crisis of joblessness is bad, but not 23 million bad. The official figure is 12.5 million unemployed. An additional 2.6 million Americans have stopped looking for jobs. How does Romney gin up his eye-popping 23 million figure? He counts more than 8 million wage earners who hold part-time jobs as also being "out of work."

4. Obamacare "puts in place an unelected board that's going to tell people ultimately what kind of treatments they can have." Romney is reviving Sarah Palin's old death panels lie here. Obamacare does establish an Independent Payment Advisory Board to help constrain the growth of Medicare spending. The body has no authority to dictate the practices of the private insurance marketplace. And the law also makes explicit that this body is banned from rationing care or limiting medical benefits to seniors.

5. "Pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan." In the biggest whopper of the night, Romney suggested that his health care proposal would guarantee coverage to Americans with pre-existing conditions. This is just not true. Under Romney, if you have a pre-existing condition and have been unable to obtain insurance coverage or if you have had to drop coverage for more than 90 days because you lost your job or couldn't afford the premiums, you would be shit out of luck. Insurance companies could continue to discriminate and deny you coverage, as even Romney's top adviser conceded after the debate was over



Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-first-debate-mitt-romneys-five-biggest-lies-20121004#ixzz28Neky213

by on Oct. 4, 2012 at 8:40 PM
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lga1965
by Ruby Member on Oct. 4, 2012 at 11:22 PM
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 no, she/he  is hopeless....

Quoting annabl1970:

banging head into wallYou're helpless LOL

Quoting asfriend:

Did you happen to notice the country loved what they saw?

Did you feel the subdued haze over the site today, no Obama energy whatsoever.

You crowd is shrinking, pretty much down to the blacks, the occupy types, the fringe moms defending their vaginas from nonexistent danger, and daily Koz people.
Your time is almost up.
tick, tick, tick


Quoting annabl1970:

Nice try asfriend!


She meant Obama Let Romney to get away with lies, to show country who is real Romney - BIG TIME LIAR.


Quoting asfriend:

Hang himself?

Are you serious? Do you have even the first clue how racially charged comments like that are? That couldn't have been an accident, you know one of those men on stage was a Black man, you should be utterly ashamed of yourself for that. SMFH
Ridiculous, how can we ever come together, with divisive hate speech rhetoric.
Surely this thread will be pulled.
Unbelievable.



Quoting Lurion:


Wow, how long did it take to narrow it down to just 5?


I think Obama was just so stunned by the BS that was pouring out of Romney's mouth, he didn't even know how to respond...or he was just giving him enough rope to hang himself. Hoping for the latter.



 


 

 

toomanypoodles
by Ruby Member on Oct. 4, 2012 at 11:46 PM

 

Quoting lga1965:

 

Quoting toomanypoodles:

Oh, I ALWAYS get MY news from Rolling Stone. lol

 If it is the TRUTH, it doesn't martter where it is published.

It IS the truth.

Deal with it.

If you had an open mind and wanted to learn something, you would read Rolling Stone. But that won't happen ,will it. @@

 Nope.  I prefer Highlights Magazine to Rolling Stone.

 

asfriend
by on Oct. 5, 2012 at 8:16 AM
I don't know what the Colombian America reference means.


Quoting AdrianneHill:

Lol.

Really? How can we come together? Really?



The person who likes to pop in with a "ridiculous post" and then smirk in the background? You are trying to bring people together? Or do you just claim people are driving a wedge when they refuse to like your propaganda? Tell us about pre Columbian America again. Please




Quoting asfriend:

Hang himself?





Are you serious? Do you have even the first clue how racially charged comments like that are? That couldn't have been an accident, you know one of those men on stage was a Black man, you should be utterly ashamed of yourself for that. SMFH


Ridiculous, how can we ever come together, with divisive hate speech rhetoric.


Surely this thread will be pulled.


Unbelievable.






Quoting Lurion:

Wow, how long did it take to narrow it down to just 5?

I think Obama was just so stunned by the BS that was pouring out of Romney's mouth, he didn't even know how to respond...or he was just giving him enough rope to hang himself. Hoping for the latter.



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asfriend
by on Oct. 5, 2012 at 8:16 AM
Sckoll?


Quoting Aslen:

When did you drop out of school? Like, 2nd grade? Because your lack of reading comprehension is laughable


Quoting asfriend:

Oh, so lynching whitie done be okay!





Quoting Aslen:

She was talking about Romney. And that saying is not racial. Saying you'd like to see that *N* get lynched would be racial







Quoting asfriend:

Hang himself?







Are you serious? Do you have even the first clue how racially charged comments like that are? That couldn't have been an accident, you know one of those men on stage was a Black man, you should be utterly ashamed of yourself for that. SMFH



Ridiculous, how can we ever come together, with divisive hate speech rhetoric.



Surely this thread will be pulled.



Unbelievable.









Quoting Lurion:

Wow, how long did it take to narrow it down to just 5?

I think Obama was just so stunned by the BS that was pouring out of Romney's mouth, he didn't even know how to respond...or he was just giving him enough rope to hang himself. Hoping for the latter.









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Stephanie329
by Platinum Member on Oct. 5, 2012 at 8:52 AM
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Great post.

*ETA Didnt realize who I was quoting. I hate feeding trolls.
Quoting asfriend:

Ridiculous post





Quoting Lurion:

Wow, how long did it take to narrow it down to just 5?

I think Obama was just so stunned by the BS that was pouring out of Romney's mouth, he didn't even know how to respond...or he was just giving him enough rope to hang himself. Hoping for the latter.


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Stephanie329
by Platinum Member on Oct. 5, 2012 at 8:56 AM
I know, WTF?



Quoting annabl1970:

banging head into wallYou're helpless LOL


Quoting asfriend:

Did you happen to notice the country loved what they saw?

Did you feel the subdued haze over the site today, no Obama energy whatsoever.

You crowd is shrinking, pretty much down to the blacks, the occupy types, the fringe moms defending their vaginas from nonexistent danger, and daily Koz people.
Your time is almost up.
tick, tick, tick



Quoting annabl1970:


Nice try asfriend!



She meant Obama Let Romney to get away with lies, to show country who is real Romney - BIG TIME LIAR.



Quoting asfriend:

Hang himself?

Are you serious? Do you have even the first clue how racially charged comments like that are? That couldn't have been an accident, you know one of those men on stage was a Black man, you should be utterly ashamed of yourself for that. SMFH
Ridiculous, how can we ever come together, with divisive hate speech rhetoric.
Surely this thread will be pulled.
Unbelievable.




Quoting Lurion:



Wow, how long did it take to narrow it down to just 5?



I think Obama was just so stunned by the BS that was pouring out of Romney's mouth, he didn't even know how to respond...or he was just giving him enough rope to hang himself. Hoping for the latter.




 




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asfriend
by on Oct. 5, 2012 at 9:38 AM
Me too


Quoting Stephanie329:

Great post.



*ETA Didnt realize who I was quoting. I hate feeding trolls.
Quoting asfriend:

Ridiculous post








Quoting Lurion:

Wow, how long did it take to narrow it down to just 5?

I think Obama was just so stunned by the BS that was pouring out of Romney's mouth, he didn't even know how to respond...or he was just giving him enough rope to hang himself. Hoping for the latter.



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shannonnigans
by Gold Member on Oct. 5, 2012 at 10:30 AM
Does Highlights quote Romney's own campaign manager also?! ;)


Quoting toomanypoodles:

 


Quoting lga1965:


 


Quoting toomanypoodles:


Oh, I ALWAYS get MY news from Rolling Stone. lol


 If it is the TRUTH, it doesn't martter where it is published.


It IS the truth.


Deal with it.


If you had an open mind and wanted to learn something, you would read Rolling Stone. But that won't happen ,will it. @@


 Nope.  I prefer Highlights Magazine to Rolling Stone.


 


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MentorMom1
by on Oct. 5, 2012 at 10:49 AM


Quoting asfriend:

Hang himself?

Are you serious? Do you have even the first clue how racially charged comments like that are? That couldn't have been an accident, you know one of those men on stage was a Black man, you should be utterly ashamed of yourself for that. SMFH
Ridiculous, how can we ever come together, with divisive hate speech rhetoric.
Surely this thread will be pulled.
Unbelievable.


Quoting Lurion:

Wow, how long did it take to narrow it down to just 5?

I think Obama was just so stunned by the BS that was pouring out of Romney's mouth, he didn't even know how to respond...or he was just giving him enough rope to hang himself. Hoping for the latter.



Oh my goodness! Lurion did not mean Romney was just giving Obama enough rope to hang himself. It was confusing because of all the pronouns.

The antecedent of the first  "he" is Obama. The antecedent of the second "he" is also Obama, not Romney. "Him" refers to Romney. To be accurate, Lurion should have said, "Obama didn't even know how to respond... or he was just giving Romney enough rope to hang himself."  Then you would not have misunderstood.

I write for a newspaper. I deal with this all the time.

Aslen
by Silver Member on Oct. 5, 2012 at 10:51 AM
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yeah you really cant read. It's spelled, in my original comment, SCHOOL. Thank you for proving me right!


Quoting asfriend:

Sckoll?




Quoting Aslen:

When did you drop out of school? Like, 2nd grade? Because your lack of reading comprehension is laughable



Quoting asfriend:

Oh, so lynching whitie done be okay!








Quoting Aslen:

She was talking about Romney. And that saying is not racial. Saying you'd like to see that *N* get lynched would be racial










Quoting asfriend:

Hang himself?









Are you serious? Do you have even the first clue how racially charged comments like that are? That couldn't have been an accident, you know one of those men on stage was a Black man, you should be utterly ashamed of yourself for that. SMFH




Ridiculous, how can we ever come together, with divisive hate speech rhetoric.




Surely this thread will be pulled.




Unbelievable.












Quoting Lurion:

Wow, how long did it take to narrow it down to just 5?

I think Obama was just so stunned by the BS that was pouring out of Romney's mouth, he didn't even know how to respond...or he was just giving him enough rope to hang himself. Hoping for the latter.













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