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What's Next on the School Force Food Agenda? School District Bans Ice Cream


School District Bans PTA Ice Cream Sales

School District Bans PTA Ice Cream Sales

Oct 5, 2012

By Todd Starnes

A New Jersey school district has ordered the PTA to stop selling ice cream to students on campus because the longtime fundraising violates state and federal law.

For years the PTA in Parsippany, New Jersey sold ice cream once a week on campuses across the district. The money was used to fund cultural arts programs and field trips for the students.

But earlier this week, the district superintendent sent a letter to the group informing the parents that those tiny cups of ice cream could no longer be sold on campus.

“We don’t know the full extent of the issue, but the PTA cannot sell ice cream during our lunch time hour,” PTA president Liz Kadian told Fox News. “It’s disturbing to many parents.”

Supt. LeRoy Seitz told Fox News that the district has no choice in the matter.

“While we fully understand that our students enjoyed the PTA ice cream fundraisers in the past and that the ice cream sale fundraiser was very successful for our PTAs, we cannot approve activities, including PTA ice cream sales that are in violation of state regulations,” he said in a statement.

The law forbids any food sale fundraising efforts during the “hours when our school nutritional program is in operation.”

“It is unfortunate that we cannot permit the PTA ice cream sales during the hours that lunch is being served and again, we have asked our principales to work with his or her PTA to find other opportunities to fundraise that are in compliance with state regulations,” he said.

“I think it’s ridiculous and a majority of the parents feel the same way,” Kadian told Fox News. “It’s a once-a-week treat.”

Dozens of parents are voicing their extreme displeasure about the new ice cream ban on the Parsippany Patch website.

“I can only imagine what will be next,” one parent wrote. “Will the school board start checking lunch boxes making sure that parents did not pack too many Twinkies or yodels?”

“Whether it is federal, state or local government-mandated, another piece of childhood innocence is being taken away,” another parent wrote. “How sad that an elementary school child can’t look forward to buying something as simple as an ice cream bar once a week.”

Last week more than 1,000 students at Parsippany Hills High School staged a strike against the cafeteria to protest federal guidelines governing portion size. As a result, a number of parents are now packing lunches for their children.

Kadian said she understands the USDA’s concerns over healthy lunches – but she noted that the ice cream they sold met state guidelines. The ice cream cups contained about four bites of – and the ice pops were sugar-free.

Teachers also used the weekly ice cream sale as an incentive – offering students the chance to earn certificates for a free treat.

But Kadian said the bigger issue is fundraising. Without the ice cream sales, many student activities could be jeopardized.

She said the PTA will be meeting soon to discuss their options.

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/school-district-bans-ice-cream.html

....I am only responsible for what I say,NOT for what you understand.....
by on Oct. 6, 2012 at 1:22 PM
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GotSomeKids
by Silver Member on Oct. 6, 2012 at 2:46 PM

That is very sad to me.  She doesn't have to be.

Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:


Michele is ornamental, not functional. She needs to play her position.


Lizardannie1966
by on Oct. 6, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Again, the parents can feed their kids this sort of thing when the child gets home.

I'm not seeing where this has anything to do with nutrition or unhealthy options, however? Am I not comprehending what I am reading correctly?

Here is my question, however--will the state of NJ still allow the kids to sell Christmas items (which includes dips, chocolates, cookies, fudge) door-to-door for fundraising? Is this all due to what is being done ON campus only?

ETA--what about GS Cookies? Will this also be done off campus in NJ, too? IE..the teachers and/or parents can no longer try to peddle those delicious Thin Mints and Samoa (or whatever they're called--the ones with coconut) cookies during school hours? I know when my kids were in public schools, the teachers and the parents would try to make sales to other parents and teachers for their daughters who were Girl Scouts and no eyebrows were ever raised.

tessaloveof3
by Member on Oct. 6, 2012 at 3:04 PM

I think how the federal law reads is that if you participate in the school lunch program, fundraising cannot occur during meal hours.   I think you would still be able to sell the stuff on the order forms or girl scout cookies (if it was done after the last lunch of the day).   Or that is how it is interpreted at my school.

Quoting Lizardannie1966:

Again, the parents can feed their kids this sort of thing when the child gets home.

I'm not seeing where this has anything to do with nutrition or unhealthy options, however? Am I not comprehending what I am reading correctly?

Here is my question, however--will the state of NJ still allow the kids to sell Christmas items (which includes dips, chocolates, cookies, fudge) door-to-door for fundraising? Is this all due to what is being done ON campus only?

ETA--what about GS Cookies? Will this also be done off campus in NJ, too? IE..the teachers and/or parents can no longer try to peddle those delicious Thin Mints and Samoa (or whatever they're called--the ones with coconut) cookies during school hours? I know when my kids were in public schools, the teachers and the parents would try to make sales to other parents and teachers for their daughters who were Girl Scouts and no eyebrows were ever raised.


JoshRachelsMAMA
by JRM on Oct. 6, 2012 at 3:05 PM
No one elected her.

Quoting GotSomeKids:

That is very sad to me.  She doesn't have to be.

Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:


Michele is ornamental, not functional. She needs to play her position.


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tessaloveof3
by Member on Oct. 6, 2012 at 3:05 PM
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That is always the role of the FLOTUS.   She should never be involved in policy because she wasn't elected.

Quoting GotSomeKids:

That is very sad to me.  She doesn't have to be.

Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:


Michele is ornamental, not functional. She needs to play her position.



Lizardannie1966
by on Oct. 6, 2012 at 3:08 PM

It's been a while for me to have a child in a public school. Last one was our son and graduated from high school in 2011.

I seem to recall a similar rule about fundraising during the lunch hours at my youngest Dd's last ps. She's been home-schooled for five years now and I would guess some of the rules have changed possibly.

I'm just wondering if it's exclusively about the fund raising or can this be interpretated as another attempt to take another "unhealthy" food option away?

Quoting tessaloveof3:

I think how the federal law reads is that if you participate in the school lunch program, fundraising cannot occur during meal hours.   I think you would still be able to sell the stuff on the order forms or girl scout cookies (if it was done after the last lunch of the day).   Or that is how it is interpreted at my school.

Quoting Lizardannie1966:

Again, the parents can feed their kids this sort of thing when the child gets home.

I'm not seeing where this has anything to do with nutrition or unhealthy options, however? Am I not comprehending what I am reading correctly?

Here is my question, however--will the state of NJ still allow the kids to sell Christmas items (which includes dips, chocolates, cookies, fudge) door-to-door for fundraising? Is this all due to what is being done ON campus only?

ETA--what about GS Cookies? Will this also be done off campus in NJ, too? IE..the teachers and/or parents can no longer try to peddle those delicious Thin Mints and Samoa (or whatever they're called--the ones with coconut) cookies during school hours? I know when my kids were in public schools, the teachers and the parents would try to make sales to other parents and teachers for their daughters who were Girl Scouts and no eyebrows were ever raised.



SEEKEROFSHELLS
by Platinum Member on Oct. 6, 2012 at 3:19 PM

That IS insane. What a mess!

Quoting romalove:

 In NJ they passed a law a few years ago that makes bringing any foods into school that weren't "nutritious" illegal.  They had a crazy formula for figuring this out.  For example, fat free Italian ices were banned because they are sugar and water so have no nutritional value, but full fat ice cream (because it has some calcium and protein) were permitted.  The ices would be a better choice for kids watching calories, but they can't have it.  You can have a cupcake but you can't put candy corn on top.  You can have chocolate bars but you can't have marshmallows.

It is insane.


jesusismyfriend
by Silver Member on Oct. 6, 2012 at 3:20 PM
So they can't do this after school hours because.....????
tessaloveof3
by Member on Oct. 6, 2012 at 3:22 PM

Probably because most kids don't hang around the school once it is out.  The ice cream sales at lunch could reach every child.

Quoting jesusismyfriend:

So they can't do this after school hours because.....????


rfurlongg
by on Oct. 6, 2012 at 3:27 PM
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While I have no issue with mandated nutritional guidelines for school lunches, this particular situation does not seem to fit that bill. The PTA (at least here) is a totally seperate entity from the school. They take absolutely no money from the school. The PTA at our local highschool has bake sales as fundraisers weekly on campus. They are not allowed to sell in the cafeteria, but they can set up in the courtyard or main hall. Perhaps they can do that and their school?
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