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What's Next on the School Force Food Agenda? School District Bans Ice Cream


School District Bans PTA Ice Cream Sales

School District Bans PTA Ice Cream Sales

Oct 5, 2012

By Todd Starnes

A New Jersey school district has ordered the PTA to stop selling ice cream to students on campus because the longtime fundraising violates state and federal law.

For years the PTA in Parsippany, New Jersey sold ice cream once a week on campuses across the district. The money was used to fund cultural arts programs and field trips for the students.

But earlier this week, the district superintendent sent a letter to the group informing the parents that those tiny cups of ice cream could no longer be sold on campus.

“We don’t know the full extent of the issue, but the PTA cannot sell ice cream during our lunch time hour,” PTA president Liz Kadian told Fox News. “It’s disturbing to many parents.”

Supt. LeRoy Seitz told Fox News that the district has no choice in the matter.

“While we fully understand that our students enjoyed the PTA ice cream fundraisers in the past and that the ice cream sale fundraiser was very successful for our PTAs, we cannot approve activities, including PTA ice cream sales that are in violation of state regulations,” he said in a statement.

The law forbids any food sale fundraising efforts during the “hours when our school nutritional program is in operation.”

“It is unfortunate that we cannot permit the PTA ice cream sales during the hours that lunch is being served and again, we have asked our principales to work with his or her PTA to find other opportunities to fundraise that are in compliance with state regulations,” he said.

“I think it’s ridiculous and a majority of the parents feel the same way,” Kadian told Fox News. “It’s a once-a-week treat.”

Dozens of parents are voicing their extreme displeasure about the new ice cream ban on the Parsippany Patch website.

“I can only imagine what will be next,” one parent wrote. “Will the school board start checking lunch boxes making sure that parents did not pack too many Twinkies or yodels?”

“Whether it is federal, state or local government-mandated, another piece of childhood innocence is being taken away,” another parent wrote. “How sad that an elementary school child can’t look forward to buying something as simple as an ice cream bar once a week.”

Last week more than 1,000 students at Parsippany Hills High School staged a strike against the cafeteria to protest federal guidelines governing portion size. As a result, a number of parents are now packing lunches for their children.

Kadian said she understands the USDA’s concerns over healthy lunches – but she noted that the ice cream they sold met state guidelines. The ice cream cups contained about four bites of – and the ice pops were sugar-free.

Teachers also used the weekly ice cream sale as an incentive – offering students the chance to earn certificates for a free treat.

But Kadian said the bigger issue is fundraising. Without the ice cream sales, many student activities could be jeopardized.

She said the PTA will be meeting soon to discuss their options.

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/school-district-bans-ice-cream.html

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by on Oct. 6, 2012 at 1:22 PM
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NutHouseMomma
by Silver Member on Oct. 8, 2012 at 7:53 AM
But this is not the case. I have seen people use their food stamps/EBT to purchase sodas, koolaid, cookies, ice cream, bakery items like cakes, candy, chips, etc. Ridiculous!

Quoting sissyboogs:

New Jersey Regulation: 

C.18A:33-16  Regulation of items sold, served, given away on school property. 

 2.  a.  As of September 2007, the following items shall not be served, sold or given away 

as a free promotion anywhere on school property at any time before the end of the school 

day, including items served in the reimbursable After School Snack Program: 

 (1) Foods of minimal nutritional value, as defined by the United States Department of 

Agriculture; 

 (2) All food and beverage items listing sugar, in any form, as the first ingredient; and 

 (3) All forms of candy as defined by the New Jersey Department of Agriculture. 

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2006/Bills/PL07/45_.PDF

Federal Regulation: (210.11 for those who click on the link below to read)

Such rules or regulations shall 

prohibit the sale of foods of minimal 

nutritional value, as listed in appendix 

B of this part, in the food service areas 

during the lunch periods.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2011-title7-vol4/pdf/CFR-2011-title7-vol4-part210.pdf


Here's how I see it: people on foodstamps have to follow rules and regulations or else they face consequences, can be forced to pay fines, and can lose their foodstamps. It's really no different, except this is a school...receiving government funding. They have to follow rules and regulations. Sure, they've been doing this fundraiser with no issues until now, but I'm betting someone got wind of it and the school district was told they needed to stop or they would have to pay fines or lose funding, something along those lines. That's just how it works. 

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JoshRachelsMAMA
by JRM on Oct. 8, 2012 at 8:18 AM
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And beer

Quoting NutHouseMomma:

But this is not the case. I have seen people use their food stamps/EBT to purchase sodas, koolaid, cookies, ice cream, bakery items like cakes, candy, chips, etc. Ridiculous!



Quoting sissyboogs:

New Jersey Regulation: 

C.18A:33-16  Regulation of items sold, served, given away on school property. 

 2.  a.  As of September 2007, the following items shall not be served, sold or given away 

as a free promotion anywhere on school property at any time before the end of the school 

day, including items served in the reimbursable After School Snack Program: 

 (1) Foods of minimal nutritional value, as defined by the United States Department of 

Agriculture; 

 (2) All food and beverage items listing sugar, in any form, as the first ingredient; and 

 (3) All forms of candy as defined by the New Jersey Department of Agriculture. 

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2006/Bills/PL07/45_.PDF

Federal Regulation: (210.11 for those who click on the link below to read)

Such rules or regulations shall 

prohibit the sale of foods of minimal 

nutritional value, as listed in appendix 

B of this part, in the food service areas 

during the lunch periods.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2011-title7-vol4/pdf/CFR-2011-title7-vol4-part210.pdf


Here's how I see it: people on foodstamps have to follow rules and regulations or else they face consequences, can be forced to pay fines, and can lose their foodstamps. It's really no different, except this is a school...receiving government funding. They have to follow rules and regulations. Sure, they've been doing this fundraiser with no issues until now, but I'm betting someone got wind of it and the school district was told they needed to stop or they would have to pay fines or lose funding, something along those lines. That's just how it works. 

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Bookwormy
by Platinum Member on Oct. 8, 2012 at 8:49 AM
I guess you have caught me in hypocricy. Absolutely not, beyond food & diapers. As a child who's mom briefly was on food stamps, that system is shame based enough without more judgement being thrown into it.

I was also on free & then reduced cost lunches for a couple years. Nothing wrong in my mind with the food they are giving you being healthier. When it was reduced cost, I did find a way to take the same amount of money from my mom & buy for lunch instead a hot pretzel or an ice cream for lunch daily. As an adult, *disgusting*.


Quoting NutHouseMomma:

So then you agree that food stamp recipients should be monitored on their purchases as well? I would hope so!



Quoting Bookwormy:

I really hope this is a private schoo that receives no public funding for meals! That is disgusting!






Quoting Godgaveme4:

 Our ASB just sold boxes of krispy Kremes at lunch last week.  The kids loved it.  Next week the sophmores are selling candy.  All of it is for fundtraising.




And in the elementary the kids can choose ice cream as a side item.




I love my school!



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RowdyRoxyRainbw
by Gold Member on Oct. 8, 2012 at 9:00 AM
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I disagree with you.  It does matter that government thinks it can make decisions for me and my family to this extent.  I do pack my kids lunches though.  The government consistently adds more and more mundane laws and I feel as though our liberty is slipping through the cracks..straight on down to what food choices we make.  If we want to run ourselves to the grave thats a personal choice and not the governments.  If we want our children to have an icecream or a sugar free pop once a week as a parent we can dedcide.  It's not the governments place to tell us what we can or cannot eat.

Quoting Sisteract:

Snowflakes do not need super sized portions or ice cream during the school day.

No kid was ever permanently damaged from eating appropriate proportions, and nutritional meals devoid of sweets.

AND seemingly FEW parents/adults/ teens have the personal responsibility necessary to make the best food and exercises choices all on their own.

Teachers, incentives, treats...kids aren't show animals.

I know, liberty, nanny state, blah, blah.

None of it matters when you're prematurely dead d/t your terrible habits- the schools (we, we are the schools) do not need to perpetuate the problem.



grandmab125
by Gold Member on Oct. 8, 2012 at 9:14 AM


Quoting 1stpreggers:

This is getting ridiculous! They should just send kids home for lunch !


Most kids ride a school bus or public transportation.  Very few live within walking distance; and if they did, a half an hour wouldn't be long enough to go back and forth.

grandma B

grandmab125
by Gold Member on Oct. 8, 2012 at 9:17 AM


Quoting jesusismyfriend:

So they can't do this after school hours because.....????

Because most kids ride school buses, unless you live in a city.  Busses won't wait for the kids.  Only the kids who walk or have mom's to pick them up would be able to participate.

grandma B

lga1965
by on Oct. 8, 2012 at 9:51 AM

 

Quoting Godgaveme4:

 Our ASB just sold boxes of krispy Kremes at lunch last week.  The kids loved it.  Next week the sophmores are selling candy.  All of it is for fundtraising.

And in the elementary the kids can choose ice cream as a side item.

I love my school!

 Krispie Kreme is yummy.....but they use Trans Fats in them. You do know how harmful Trans Fats are,right? And candy---HFCS? Your school is promoting unhealthy snacks and treats. Your kids' health will suffer.  We had a Krispy Kreme store in our suburb but it closed within a year . losing business,losing money,because nobody wanted to stuff Trans Fats down their throats.

Schools have a responsibility to the kids. Parents do too, if they are informed and aware.

Sisteract
by Whoopie on Oct. 8, 2012 at 10:55 AM

Oh I agree- serve it at home- where you are the person making all the decisions. The schools should not be dispensing stuff that we know is not healthy and the tax payer should not be footing the bill for bad choices. Parents, in the confines over their own homes, are free to serve all the crap that they want. In terms of the school day, parents could still pack a lunch full of ho-hos, chips, ice cream and soda for their snowflake to consume at lunch. You still have a choice.

Quoting RowdyRoxyRainbw:

I disagree with you.  It does matter that government thinks it can make decisions for me and my family to this extent.  I do pack my kids lunches though.  The government consistently adds more and more mundane laws and I feel as though our liberty is slipping through the cracks..straight on down to what food choices we make.  If we want to run ourselves to the grave thats a personal choice and not the governments.  If we want our children to have an icecream or a sugar free pop once a week as a parent we can dedcide.  It's not the governments place to tell us what we can or cannot eat.

Quoting Sisteract:

Snowflakes do not need super sized portions or ice cream during the school day.

No kid was ever permanently damaged from eating appropriate proportions, and nutritional meals devoid of sweets.

AND seemingly FEW parents/adults/ teens have the personal responsibility necessary to make the best food and exercises choices all on their own.

Teachers, incentives, treats...kids aren't show animals.

I know, liberty, nanny state, blah, blah.

None of it matters when you're prematurely dead d/t your terrible habits- the schools (we, we are the schools) do not need to perpetuate the problem.



Separation of church and state is for the protection of BOTH church and state.
Leading with hate and intolerance only leads to MORE hate and intolerance.
FromAtoZ
by AllieCat on Oct. 8, 2012 at 11:02 AM

Personally, I think that is silly, however, there are other times to sell the ice cream.

The schools here sell it after school.

FromAtoZ
by AllieCat on Oct. 8, 2012 at 11:03 AM
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I wanted to add, not being able to sell the ice cream isn't going to hurt a single student.  On the other side, the parents complaining have me giggling a bit.

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