AIG answers Bill Nye - Bill Nye's Crusade for Your Kids
In this second YouTube video, Ken Ham responds to intolerant Bill Nye defenders who did not like that our YouTube videos had the comments disabled (3:26 minutes).
Nyeâs programs seen on PBS-TV and elsewhere have for years done a marvelous job of explaining experimental (operational, or observational) science to children. Parents and teachers have been delighted to see youngsters who watch them get excited about science. Experimental science is the kind of science that invents new technology, figures out how things work, and finds cures for disease. However, some of Nyeâs programs have ventured into historical (or origins) scienceâthe kind of science that draws conclusions about the untestable, unrepeatable, unobservable past. And his conclusions about our origins are based on his worldview, a secular (humanistic) worldview2 with a prior commitment to reject the eyewitness account God provided in the Bible. For instance, I recall watching his program about dinosaurs with my children. In it he and his assistant repeatedly declared that dinosaurs did not live at the same time as people.3 Yet God reported in Genesis that He created all kinds of land animals on the same day He created Adam and Eve, and dinosaurs are land animals. Who are we to believe, Bill Nye (who wasnât there, knows next to nothing when compared with all there is to know, and makes mistakes) or God (who was there and knows all things, and never makes mistakes)?
Nye indicates that todayâs children must believe in evolution if our country is to remain tomorrowâs leader in technology. Curiously, after saying that âdenial of evolution is unique to the United Statesâ (an erroneous statement, by the way, as we show in our video response to Nye) he went on to say the United States has the worldâs most advanced technology due to âthe general understanding of science,â equating understanding science with believing in evolution. Then he added, âWhen you have a portion of the population that doesnât believe in that, it holds everybody back, really.â But Nye fails to address how our country, held back by a contingent of evolution-denying people, could ever have risen to such a glorious technological height in the first place.
Next, Nyeâwho holds a bachelorâs degree in mechanical engineering, which is in the realm of operational, not historical, scienceâmade another erroneous statement. He said, âEvolution is the fundamental idea in all of life science, in all of biology.â This is of course reminiscent of the popular but mythical Darwinian aphorism, âNothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution.â4 The most fundamental law that is observable in biology, the law of biogenesis, indicates that life only arises from living things. Yet evolutionists like Nye claim life randomly created itself from non-living elements. Despite this blatant contradiction between Nyeâs statement and this incontrovertible law of observational biological science and the fact that scientists have never observed life coming from non-life, Nye considers evolution the most fundamental of biological laws.
Bill Nye did make a brief (two minute) trip to the Creation Museum property in January 2011 while in the area for a speaking engagement. Sadly, he did not choose to tour the Museum or even to come inside. Since the lobby of the museum features animatronic children and dinosaurs togetherâa strict violation of a principle taught on a Nye television programâhe would have doubtless not found it to his taste. Had he toured, however, and perhaps spent some time speaking with any of Answers in Genesis scientists holding earned doctoral degrees in geology, astronomy, medicine, cell biology, molecular genetics and the history of geology, perhaps he would have respected, if not the biblical basis for creation, at least the scientific basis for the positions creation scientists take. Or perhaps not. At any rate, Nye did not avail himself of that opportunity but only drove onto the museum property, snapped a photo, and left. So much for honest, intellectual (really, scientific) investigation before drawing conclusions!
In a follow-up interview with CBS, Nye said, âReligion is one thing, but science, provable science is something else.â5 Indeed, science and religionâor biblical Christianity in this instanceâare not the same, yet if both reveal truth, they will not conflict. Nye went on to further demonstrate his lack of discernment concerning the difference between experimental science and historical science as he elaborated on what he considers âprovable science.â He said, âMy concern is you donât want people growing up not believing in radioactivity, not believing in geology and deep time. You donât want people in the United Sates growing up without the expectation that we can land spacecraft on Mars. You want people to believe in science, this process, this great idea that humans had to discover more about the universe and our place in it, our place in space.â5 As a tour of the Creation Museum or a serious reading of articles and books featured on the Answers in Genesis website and bookstore will reveal, however, creation scientists do âbelieve inâ geology and radioactivity and space exploration. What we as biblical creationists do not accept are interpretations of geological, biological, anthropological, genetic, astronomical, and radiometric data that are based on unverifiable assumptions about the past and deny Godâs eyewitness account of events (e.g., Creation Week, the Fall of man, Noahâs Flood, the Tower of Babel).
âProvable scienceâ is performed in the present. Historical science involves interpreting scientific data through the filter of what you already believe about the unobservable past. Nye reminds us in his video that Carl Sagan was one of his college professors. Nyeâs worldview accords with Saganâs, who believes, âThe cosmos is all that is or ever was or ever will be.â6 Sagan and Nye were not present during âdeep time,â nor was any other scientist. âDeep timeâ cannot therefore be subject to âprovable science.â Their declarations about âdeep timeâ (their interpretations of scientific data) are based on their prior commitment to believe that there could be no Creator and that the Bible is untrue, a commitment nicely summarized by another famous evolutionist, Richard Lewontin. Lewontin wrote the following:
Our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural. We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.7
And what in the Bibleâs account does Nye find so difficult to accept? He provided an example in another interview, saying, âThe bible, as translated into English, claims that the Sun lights the day, and the Moon lights the night. .Â .Â . To my ear, it doesnât seem as though the author realized that the Moonâs light is reflected sunlight.â5 Yet biblical creationists do not think the moon produces its own light, the biblical text does not state or even imply that, and Bible-believing Christians do not teach their children that. Nye is imposing a nonsensical meaning to the words of Scripture and to the beliefs of creation scientists (whether concerning the nature of the moon or the possibilities of space exploration) and then mocking them. So much for careful, accurate, intellectual debate.
Bill Nye, the charismatic âScience Guyâ of PBS-TV fame, keeps busy these days crusading for science literacy. Nye is pictured here delivering a May 2012 lecture at Ohio State University (where Answers in Genesis speaker and researcher Georgia Purdom earned her PhD in molecular genetics). The previous year he dropped by the Creation Museum property but opted not to enter or speak with the staff. Unfortunately, he erroneously equates science literacy with believing evolutionary dogma. Image courtesy of Doobie Jefferson.8
Nye said in his video, âYour world just becomes fantastically complicated when you donât believe in evolution. .Â .Â . The idea of deep time, of this billions of years, explains so much of the world around us.â Evolutionary belief, however, is a worldview that attempts without any corroborating eyewitness account to explain the origin of life and all things without a Creator. This âdeep timeâ is extrapolated from, as Nye said in the video, âancient dinosaur bones or fossils .Â .Â . radioactivity .Â .Â . [and] distant stars,â but it is an interpretation of observed data based entirely on anti-biblical and unverifiable assumptions about the past.
Time, for evolutionists, is âthe hero of the plot.â9 Timeââbillions of yearsâ Nye claimsââexplains so much.â Actually, time doesnât explain anything. Evolutionary beliefs represent an attempt to explain the origin of life by assuming that given enough time anything can randomly create itself. Yet evolutionary beliefs cannot explain the origin of life from non-living elements through undirected natural processes. This is because evolutionary beliefsâthose beliefs Nye asserts our children must acceptâoffer no natural observable process that can explain the origin of genetic information (stored in the DNA molecule of every plant, animal, and human) through random natural processes. Furthermore, evolutionary scientists have not been able to produce any undisputed transitional fossil forms to substantiate their contention that organisms evolved from simpler kinds, much less explain how the first living cell could arise in the first place.10
Time doesnât solve these problems; in fact, time is an enemy of evolution, because the more time you have, the more mutations there are, which destroy functional genetic information. But evolutionists continue to assure us that their conclusions about the unobservable past are factual. Since we exist, they believe we must have gotten here through evolution. How? Because, they think, over âbillions of yearsâ anythingâeven things we never observe in the presentâcould happen.
And where do Nye and fellow evolutionists find those billions of years? âHere is radioactivity. Here are distant stars,â Nye says. Yet a close look at âdistant starsâ reveals a variety of stars but not how they got there. Big bang cosmology suffers from significant scientific problems of its own.11 Likewise, radiometric dating methods are based on a series of demonstrably faulty assumptions and often produce unreliable and inconsistent results. (See Radiometric Dating: Back to Basics, Radiometric Dating: Problems with the Assumptions, and Radiometric Dating: Making Sense of the Patterns to learn more.) And Nyeâs âancient dinosaur bones or fossilsâ are dated based on the radiometric dates of nearby rock layers. And evolutionists seem unwilling to use the dating methods that could expose the myth of millions of years for the age of those dinosaurs bones.12 Even molecular dating in genetics is based on presumed mutation rates, the untenable belief that mutations can create new genetic information, and the evolutionary dates already assigned to fossils. Evolution appears to âexplain so muchâ because evolutionary reasoning is circular.
On the other hand, Godâs Word provides an eyewitness account of our origins and of eventsâsuch as the global Floodâthat make sense of the world around us. Animals and plants reproduce after their kinds, just as Genesis describes. They produce incredible variety within each kind, but one kind doesnât change into a different kind. And the geologic column makes sense as a record of the catastrophic burial of countless organisms during the cataclysmic destruction of habitats all over the world by Noahâs Flood. (Read more in Chapter 31: Doesnât the Order of Fossils in the Rock Record Favor Long Ages?)
Nyeâs belief that âbillions .Â .Â . explains so muchâ is based on circular reasoning and unverifiable assumptions. Godâs Word, however, explains our origins, what we see in the world, and even why we are the intelligent yet sinful creatures we areâall on the authority of the God who has always been here and always tells the truth. Nye claims, âThere is no evidence for itââGodâs explanation for what we see. But he is wrong. The evidence affirming Godâs explanation is all around us and even beneath our feet in the fossil record (Romans 1:18â20). And itâs also in our conscience (Romans 2:14â16).
Nye predicts gloom and doom for our country if we donât train up our children to accept evolution. He claims acceptance of evolutionary beliefs is essential if they are to be âscientifically literate voters and taxpayers .Â .Â . engineers that can build stuff, solve problems.â Yet engineers build technological solutions for todayâs problems and physicians discover the causes and cures for diseases and deformities by âdoing scienceâ in the present worldâmaking observations, developing and testing hypotheses, trying out their ideas repeatedly in controlled circumstances. It is irrational and unscientific to think that the technology was made by intelligent engineers, but the bodies of the engineers and all other living creatures were made by a blind, purposeless, directionless process called evolution.
Furthermore, scientific progress does not rely on acceptance of evolution. (In fact, as retired internist and creationist Dr. Tommy Mitchell discusses in âEvolution and Medicine,â evolutionary beliefs can actually hinder medical progress. The remarkable accomplishments of eminent Johns Hopkins physician and creationist Dr. Benjamin Carson is a recent testimony to the fact that acceptance of molecules-to-man evolution is unnecessary for medical progress, even in an area where evolutionists claim to have great insightâdevelopment defects. (Read about the controversy surrounding Dr. Carsonâs statements about both science and the logical basis for morality in News to Note, May 26, 2012.)
Nyeâs mission is to âfoster a scientifically literate society, to help people everywhere understand and appreciate the science that makes our world work.â13 Science literacy includes the ability to discern the difference between experimental science that draws conclusions based on observable, testable, controllable, repeatable investigationsââthe science that makes our world workââand historical, or origins, science which tries to reconstruct the unobserved past. Our world is already here. We cannot go back and test or observe its origins. And accepting the worldview of those who reject the eyewitness account of the Creator of the universe does not improve anyoneâs ability to build things that work, only their ability to spin more just-so mythological stories about the past.
Be sure to catch Ken Hamâs comments in yesterdayâs blog post, âTime is Nye for rebuttal.â There Ken reminds readers why we care what children are taught about God their Creator. Ken wrote the folowing:
We teach children and adults the truth concerning who they are in the Creatorâs eyesâand where they came from. And we tell people that they do have purpose and meaning in life, and that they were created for a purpose. Our Creator loves us, even while we are sinners (for we have all sinned in Adam). Christ paid the penalty for our sin and offers a free gift of salvation. No, we are not just evolved animals as Nye believes; we are all made in the image of God.â
Weâve heard in Nyeâs video why he says he cares what children believe. Nyeâs worldview rejects the Creatorâs Word revealed in the Bible as the ultimate basis for determining right and wrong, good and bad. In Nyeâs worldview, therefore, each individual determines what is good and desirable, what is a disservice to children and to the country, and even what sort of things he should care about. By claiming to represent what is âbestâ for kids and to tell parents what is the ârightâ thing to do, Nye is really borrowing from a âbiblicalâ worldview. (See Morality and the Irrationality of an Evolutionary Worldview for more about this distinction.)
But letâs listen to what Jesus Christ, the Son of God, by whom all things were created (Colossians 1:16â17), says about how the way we view Godâs testimony in Genesis (recorded by Moses) affects the way we view Him, our Savior. Jesus said the following:
For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My word? (John 5:46â47)
And letâs listen to what He said about children.
At that time the disciples came to Jesus, saying, âWho then is greatest in the kingdom of heaven?â Then Jesus called a little child to Him, set him in the midst of them, and said, âAssuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. Whoever receives one little child like this in My name receives Me. But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea.â (Matthew 18:1â6)
Woe to Christian or non-Christian evolutionists who destroy childrenâs faith in Christ and His Word.
What we teach children does make a difference. Thatâs why Godâs Word in Proverbs 22:6 commands us to âtrain up a child in the way he should go.â In fact, biblically sound instruction is not to be reserved for Sunday morning alone. God told the Israelites in Deuteronomy 6:6â9 that His Word should be a part of every aspect of their childrenâs lives, diligently taught. And Paul commended Timothyâs mother and grandmother when he remarked, âFrom childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesusâ (2 Timothy 3:15). Therefore, on the ground of biblical authority, Christian parents today who heed Nyeâs advice, encourage their children to accept evolution, and keep their biblical beliefs to themselves are abdicating their God-given responsibility, robbing their children of Godâs best, and endangering their eternal well-being.
Donât miss watching and sharing the Answers in Genesis video âBill Nye, Creationism is Highly Appropriate for our Childrenâ rebutting Nye on YouTube. It features Dr. David Menton and Dr. Georgia Purdom. Dr. Purdom has a PhD in molecular genetics from The Ohio State University and was a biology professor at Mount Vernon Nazarene University. Dr. Menton has a PhD in cell biology from Brown University. He is an Associate Professor Emeritus of Anatomy at Washington University School of Medicine where he trained medical students for 34 years before retiring to come work for Answers in Genesis. They are clearly qualified to share their insights on creation science and science education, being experienced professionals at the highest levels of their fields. Watch their video and please share it with others who might be deceived by the charismatic Science Guyâs âsmoke and mirrorsâ reasoning.
Listen to veteran educators Dr. David Menton and Dr. Georgia Purdom share their insights about Bill Nyeâs claims on this YouTube video prepared especially to respond to Nyeâs crusade to capture kids for evolution.
For more information about some modern scientists who have accepted the biblical account of creation see Creation scientists and other biographies of interest. Scientists like those on staff at Answers in Genesis, those on this list, Johns Hopkinsâ Dr. Benjamin Carson (mentioned above), and many others stand on the shoulders of some of the âgreatsâ in the history of scienceâlike Sir Isaac Newton, Michael Faraday, and James Clerk Maxwell. These men believed in a Creator God and expected to find His orderly handiwork in the world of science. Despite Bill Nyeâs assertions, a worldview that honors God as Creator of the universe and the physical laws in it did not hold these scientists back at all but rather was the very foundation on which they built their scientific understanding.