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People who value honesty should not be voting for Mitt Romney. The fact that people will still vote for him speaks volumes about them.

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When did we, as a culture, become so accepting of lies?



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Paul Krugman Blasts Media Over Presidential Debate: Press Can't 'Handle Flat-Out Untruths' (VIDEO)

Paul Krugman hammered the media over its handling of the first presidential debate, specifically what he said was its failure to fact-check Mitt Romney.

President Obama's performance on Wednesday dominated the roundtable discussion on ABC News' "This Week" Sunday. Instead of piling criticism on Obama like other pundits, however, Krugman took aim at factual inaccuracies made by Romney during the debate. Watch his remarks at the 6:39 mark in the clip above.

"I don’t know whether to blame Lehrer or the president but it was kind of amazing cause Romney was not only saying things that are not true, he was saying things that his own campaign had previously said weren’t true," he said.

The Nobel Prize-winning economist alleged that Romney displayed "contempt" for the press and assumed that "the news media will not cover me on this. As long as I say it forcefully, they'll say I won."

"Oh, so you’re saying the press is against Obama now?” panelist Mary Matalin asked in disbelief.

“The press just doesn’t know how to handle flat-out untruths," he said.

Other members of the roundtable objected. James Carville said that Obama could have confronted Romney "on any number of issues" during the debate, while Peggy Noonan insisted that it was "the president's job" to correct Romney's inaccuracies. Jonathan Karl claimed that Obama was also "loose with the facts."

"No, those were minor compared with Romney’s," Krugman said, when Karl gave specific examples.

to see the accompanying video:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/07/paul-krugman-media-debate-reaction_n_1946360.html




by on Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:30 PM
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kailu1835
by Ruby Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 1:40 AM

I never did understand the whole "OMG, HE ATE DOG" crap.  The Indians are probably over there in India freaking out about us eating beef.  Big whoop.  Let's not be ethnocentric people!  All animals are a source of meat to someone.

Quoting lga1965:

 We don't know how Obama's Daddy cooked the dog. Obama was just a little kid and probably doesn't remember. His daddy could have roasted it over a fire. Or put it in a brick oven. Or stewed it in a pot on the stove?



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brookiecookie87
by Platinum Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 4:40 AM

How can you post that. And follow it with, "Well gee, sure the guy I support lies a LOT but sometimes the other guy lies too so its all good"????

Again-I never said lying is okay. Especially during a debate. And Especially to the degree and amount that Romney used. That is not saying lying is okay in small amounts. That is not saying Democrats don't lie. That is just saying that Romney really takes the cake when it comes to lying and to the degree he is willing to lie.

That doesn't mean it's okay for everyone to lie, and that doesn't mean Democrats never lie-Understand?

I guess you didn't understand. I never said President Obama has never told a lie. In fact even in this Topic when Naturewomen posted President' Obama's "5 Biggest Lies" that one of them was actually a lie.

Heck-The last sentence of my Post says Democrats lie.

What i am saying is the extent, ferocity and complete abandon for truth that Romney uses with his lies is over the top.

http://www.ukprogressive.co.uk/the-monday-line-mitt-romney-the-767-lyin-king/article20268.html

767 Lies is a LOT of lies. That's more than 2 lies per day.

http://www.roboromney.com/

You having him covering every issue as a Liberal, Moderal, or Conservative.

Again-I am not saying that no one else lies. I am saying that the Extreme Romney takes it-Is Extreme.



Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

So you arent voting FOR Obama, then, because he is ALSO a liar, right? Because the premise of the thread is how can people still vote for Romney even though he is, like all poloticians, a liar. And yet those touting that position are ALSO voting for a liar. Sink in yet?


Quoting brookiecookie87:



Quote:

Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

Hoky fuck, your defense is "well gee, sure the guys I support lies but the other guy lies more so its all good"????


How can you post that. And follow it with, "Well gee, sure the guy I support lies a LOT but sometimes the other guy lies too so its all good"????

Again-I never said lying is okay. Especially during a debate. And Especially to the degree and amount that Romney used. That is not saying lying is okay in small amounts. That is not saying Democrats don't lie. That is just saying that Romney really takes the cake when it comes to lying and to the degree he is willing to lie.

That doesn't mean it's okay for everyone to lie, and that doesn't mean Democrats never lie-Understand?

Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

Your body of work speaks for itself, dear, but play innocent if that is what floats your boat. The FACT is that Obama/Dems are liars, too, and yet the only lies YOU ever to point out are Romey's/Repubs





Quoting brookiecookie87:


You are making a bunch of assumptions here that are wrong

I -Never- said lying is okay.
I -NEVER- said we should accept being lied to.

We are pointing out that Mitt Romney lied nearly the entire Debate. You chime in with all Politicians lie.

I was pointing out that no one ever said Politicians don't lie. Or that no Democrats has ever lied.

We are just pointing out the degree and the amount of lies Mitt Romney has been using. This doesn't mean, "Everyone lies and it's okay-Lets just accept it".

This is us pointing out his lying is out of Control. This is us -NOT- accepting it.

YOU are the one coming in here trying to say, "Politicians are liars. For Bobs sake STOP acting like Dems are little angels of truth and fucking morality"

I was just pointing out that Mitt Romney lies are exceeding that of most Politicians in numbers and in the degree of the lie.



Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

Hoky fuck, your defense is "well gee, sure the guys I support lies but the other guy lies more so its all good"????





Here is an idea, how about we stop accepting being lied to and people like you and your Repub counterparts STOP DEFENDING the lies with "but but but the OTHER guy" bullshit.








Quoting brookiecookie87:





Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

Politicians are liars. For Bobs sake STOP acting like Dems are little angels of truth and fucking morality.

No one is saying Politicians don't lie. And no one is saying Democrats are all little angels.

We are just saying the degree to which they lie and the amount is not nearly as high as Mitt Romney does.

I believe he is at 767 lies this campaign. That is more than two lies a day.

http://www.ukprogressive.co.uk/the-monday-line-mitt-romney-the-767-lyin-king/article20268.html











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thehickinhickor
by Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 4:44 AM
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Was it not obama that Said he would not run again if he did not do well the first time ?


i won't be voting for either one because i don't believe they are right for the job
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mustbeGRACE
by on Oct. 10, 2012 at 5:31 AM


Quoting futureshock:


Quoting mustbeGRACE:

This post is a joke, right?

To call Mr. Obama a liar would be kind.....

He is a scummy person.

Period.

I am pretty sure you know nothing about him.  You only know what lies you have been fed, in my humble opinion.


Democracy cannot succeed unless those who express their choice are prepared to choose wisely. The real safeguard of democracy, therefore, is education.” 

― Franklin D. Roosevelt



“The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.” 
― Winston Churchill

LoveMyBoyK
by Ruby Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 7:14 AM
Repeating your last post is not an answer. How many liew each has toldis subjective. ARE YOU voting for a man other people say is LIAR or not, it is a simple question. Go read the subject of this thread again.


Quoting brookiecookie87:

How can you post that. And follow it with, "Well gee, sure the guy I
support lies a LOT but sometimes the other guy lies too so its all
good"????

Again-I never said lying is okay. Especially during a
debate. And Especially to the degree and amount that Romney used. That
is not saying lying is okay in small amounts. That is not saying
Democrats don't lie. That is just saying that Romney really takes the
cake when it comes to lying and to the degree he is willing to lie.

That doesn't mean it's okay for everyone to lie, and that doesn't mean Democrats never lie-Understand?

I guess you didn't understand. I never said President Obama has never told a lie. In fact even in this Topic when Naturewomen posted President' Obama's "5 Biggest Lies" that one of them was actually a lie.

Heck-The last sentence of my Post says Democrats lie.

What i am saying is the extent, ferocity and complete abandon for truth that Romney uses with his lies is over the top.

http://www.ukprogressive.co.uk/the-monday-line-mitt-romney-the-767-lyin-king/article20268.html

767 Lies is a LOT of lies. That's more than 2 lies per day.

http://www.roboromney.com/

You having him covering every issue as a Liberal, Moderal, or Conservative.

Again-I am not saying that no one else lies. I am saying that the Extreme Romney takes it-Is Extreme.




Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

So you arent voting FOR Obama, then, because he is ALSO a liar, right? Because the premise of the thread is how can people still vote for Romney even though he is, like all poloticians, a liar. And yet those touting that position are ALSO voting for a liar. Sink in yet?





Quoting brookiecookie87:




Quote:

Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

Hoky fuck, your defense is "well gee, sure the guys I support lies but the other guy lies more so its all good"????



How can you post that. And follow it with, "Well gee, sure the guy I support lies a LOT but sometimes the other guy lies too so its all good"????

Again-I never said lying is okay. Especially during a debate. And Especially to the degree and amount that Romney used. That is not saying lying is okay in small amounts. That is not saying Democrats don't lie. That is just saying that Romney really takes the cake when it comes to lying and to the degree he is willing to lie.

That doesn't mean it's okay for everyone to lie, and that doesn't mean Democrats never lie-Understand?


Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

Your body of work speaks for itself, dear, but play innocent if that is what floats your boat. The FACT is that Obama/Dems are liars, too, and yet the only lies YOU ever to point out are Romey's/Repubs








Quoting brookiecookie87:


You are making a bunch of assumptions here that are wrong

I -Never- said lying is okay.
I -NEVER- said we should accept being lied to.

We are pointing out that Mitt Romney lied nearly the entire Debate. You chime in with all Politicians lie.

I was pointing out that no one ever said Politicians don't lie. Or that no Democrats has ever lied.

We are just pointing out the degree and the amount of lies Mitt Romney has been using. This doesn't mean, "Everyone lies and it's okay-Lets just accept it".

This is us pointing out his lying is out of Control. This is us -NOT- accepting it.

YOU are the one coming in here trying to say, "Politicians are liars. For Bobs sake STOP acting like Dems are little angels of truth and fucking morality"

I was just pointing out that Mitt Romney lies are exceeding that of most Politicians in numbers and in the degree of the lie.




Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

Hoky fuck, your defense is "well gee, sure the guys I support lies but the other guy lies more so its all good"????







Here is an idea, how about we stop accepting being lied to and people like you and your Repub counterparts STOP DEFENDING the lies with "but but but the OTHER guy" bullshit.











Quoting brookiecookie87:






Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

Politicians are liars. For Bobs sake STOP acting like Dems are little angels of truth and fucking morality.

No one is saying Politicians don't lie. And no one is saying Democrats are all little angels.

We are just saying the degree to which they lie and the amount is not nearly as high as Mitt Romney does.

I believe he is at 767 lies this campaign. That is more than two lies a day.

http://www.ukprogressive.co.uk/the-monday-line-mitt-romney-the-767-lyin-king/article20268.html















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brookiecookie87
by Platinum Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 8:05 AM

If you can repeat your question after I answer it. I can repeat my answer to the question.

How can you post that. And follow it with, "Well gee, sure the guy I
support lies a LOT but sometimes the other guy lies too so its all
good"????

Again-I never said lying is okay. Especially during a
debate. And Especially to the degree and amount that Romney used. That
is not saying lying is okay in small amounts. That is not saying
Democrats don't lie. That is just saying that Romney really takes the
cake when it comes to lying and to the degree he is willing to lie.

That doesn't mean it's okay for everyone to lie, and that doesn't mean Democrats never lie-Understand?

I guess you didn't understand. I never said President Obama has never told a lie. In fact even in this Topic when Naturewomen posted President' Obama's "5 Biggest Lies" that one of them was actually a lie.

Heck-The last sentence of my Post says Democrats lie.

What i am saying is the extent, ferocity and complete abandon for truth that Romney uses with his lies is over the top.

http://www.ukprogressive.co.uk/the-monday-line-mitt-romney-the-767-lyin-king/article20268.html

767 Lies is a LOT of lies. That's more than 2 lies per day.

Again-I am not saying that no one else lies. I am saying that the Extreme Romney takes it-Is Extreme. Anybody who is willing to tell people in Private one thing, and then tell people in Public something completely different, who is willingly to openly and blatantly lie to the public repeatedly.

Again. I am not saying no one lies. I am just saying there should be more than lies to someone.

Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

Repeating your last post is not an answer. How many liew each has toldis subjective. ARE YOU voting for a man other people say is LIAR or not, it is a simple question. Go read the subject of this thread again.


Quoting brookiecookie87:

How can you post that. And follow it with, "Well gee, sure the guy I
support lies a LOT but sometimes the other guy lies too so its all
good"????

Again-I never said lying is okay. Especially during a
debate. And Especially to the degree and amount that Romney used. That
is not saying lying is okay in small amounts. That is not saying
Democrats don't lie. That is just saying that Romney really takes the
cake when it comes to lying and to the degree he is willing to lie.

That doesn't mean it's okay for everyone to lie, and that doesn't mean Democrats never lie-Understand?

I guess you didn't understand. I never said President Obama has never told a lie. In fact even in this Topic when Naturewomen posted President' Obama's "5 Biggest Lies" that one of them was actually a lie.

Heck-The last sentence of my Post says Democrats lie.

What i am saying is the extent, ferocity and complete abandon for truth that Romney uses with his lies is over the top.

http://www.ukprogressive.co.uk/the-monday-line-mitt-romney-the-767-lyin-king/article20268.html

767 Lies is a LOT of lies. That's more than 2 lies per day.

http://www.roboromney.com/

You having him covering every issue as a Liberal, Moderal, or Conservative.

Again-I am not saying that no one else lies. I am saying that the Extreme Romney takes it-Is Extreme.




Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

So you arent voting FOR Obama, then, because he is ALSO a liar, right? Because the premise of the thread is how can people still vote for Romney even though he is, like all poloticians, a liar. And yet those touting that position are ALSO voting for a liar. Sink in yet?





Quoting brookiecookie87:




Quote:

Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

Hoky fuck, your defense is "well gee, sure the guys I support lies but the other guy lies more so its all good"????



How can you post that. And follow it with, "Well gee, sure the guy I support lies a LOT but sometimes the other guy lies too so its all good"????

Again-I never said lying is okay. Especially during a debate. And Especially to the degree and amount that Romney used. That is not saying lying is okay in small amounts. That is not saying Democrats don't lie. That is just saying that Romney really takes the cake when it comes to lying and to the degree he is willing to lie.

That doesn't mean it's okay for everyone to lie, and that doesn't mean Democrats never lie-Understand?


Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

Your body of work speaks for itself, dear, but play innocent if that is what floats your boat. The FACT is that Obama/Dems are liars, too, and yet the only lies YOU ever to point out are Romey's/Repubs








Quoting brookiecookie87:


You are making a bunch of assumptions here that are wrong

I -Never- said lying is okay.
I -NEVER- said we should accept being lied to.

We are pointing out that Mitt Romney lied nearly the entire Debate. You chime in with all Politicians lie.

I was pointing out that no one ever said Politicians don't lie. Or that no Democrats has ever lied.

We are just pointing out the degree and the amount of lies Mitt Romney has been using. This doesn't mean, "Everyone lies and it's okay-Lets just accept it".

This is us pointing out his lying is out of Control. This is us -NOT- accepting it.

YOU are the one coming in here trying to say, "Politicians are liars. For Bobs sake STOP acting like Dems are little angels of truth and fucking morality"

I was just pointing out that Mitt Romney lies are exceeding that of most Politicians in numbers and in the degree of the lie.




Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

Hoky fuck, your defense is "well gee, sure the guys I support lies but the other guy lies more so its all good"????







Here is an idea, how about we stop accepting being lied to and people like you and your Repub counterparts STOP DEFENDING the lies with "but but but the OTHER guy" bullshit.











Quoting brookiecookie87:






Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

Politicians are liars. For Bobs sake STOP acting like Dems are little angels of truth and fucking morality.

No one is saying Politicians don't lie. And no one is saying Democrats are all little angels.

We are just saying the degree to which they lie and the amount is not nearly as high as Mitt Romney does.

I believe he is at 767 lies this campaign. That is more than two lies a day.

http://www.ukprogressive.co.uk/the-monday-line-mitt-romney-the-767-lyin-king/article20268.html
















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candlegal
by Judy on Oct. 10, 2012 at 8:35 AM
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This post made me laugh out loud.   We have a liar in chief for President yet no once seems to criticize him or call him out for it.

meriana
by Platinum Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 8:51 AM

BUMP!

mikiemom
by Ruby Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 9:03 AM

they don't care that he is lying.

lga1965
by on Oct. 10, 2012 at 9:12 AM

 I know!  ;-)  But the fact that his Daddy cooked a dog is a convenient but dumb reason for some to bash the President..As you say, all animals are a source of meat to somone.

Quoting kailu1835:

I never did understand the whole "OMG, HE ATE DOG" crap.  The Indians are probably over there in India freaking out about us eating beef.  Big whoop.  Let's not be ethnocentric people!  All animals are a source of meat to someone.

Quoting lga1965:

 We don't know how Obama's Daddy cooked the dog. Obama was just a little kid and probably doesn't remember. His daddy could have roasted it over a fire. Or put it in a brick oven. Or stewed it in a pot on the stove?



 

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