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Parents Upset Over Lunchtime Palm Scanner

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Parents Upset Over Lunchtime Palm Scanner

$300,000 system leads to privacy concerns.

Parents of students at Carroll County schools in Baltimore, Md., say a new policy that scans kids' palms to pay for their lunches goes too far.

Photo: Barbara Haddock Taylor/Baltimore Sun/MCT via Getty ImagesWith the PalmSecure system, students hover their hands over an infrared scanner that ID's them by the unique patterns in their skin and registers a sale, according to a report from the Daily Herald.

The Herald talked to Mike Richmond, who has two children at a Westminster elementary school. He said the scanning started before parents were given the chance to opt-out.

"I didn't appreciate how they handled it. I'm concerned about it. I know it's the way of the future, but it's fingerprinting, it's palm-printing."

The district said the goal is to decrease the time it takes to pay for lunches since the children have a limited amount of time to eat their meals.

The controversial system is operating in three Carroll County elementary schools with plans to expand to the whole district within a year. It's also used in many other schools around the country where there have also been concerns about invasion of privacy as well as the cost of the system. Once implemented, PalmSecure will run the Carroll County district about $300,000.

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Photo: Barbara Haddock Taylor/Baltimore Sun/MCT via Getty Images

 

 

by on Oct. 7, 2012 at 9:09 PM
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NiCo86
by Member on Oct. 8, 2012 at 12:16 AM

I don't believe that my minor child's finger/palm prints need to be in any type of system for identification. That's what they do to criminals, not small children. I would be much better off with a sytem that required them to enter the last, say 6 of their social security number or a school provided student identification number. I don't feel as if the "time saving" feature is worth the cost OR the privacy that it infringes upon.

Quoting Aamy:

ok the price tag, wow, but really, i see nothing wrong with it. 


toomanypoodles
by Ruby Member on Oct. 8, 2012 at 12:18 AM
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Quoting SEEKEROFSHELLS:

 I don't know if it is the " Mark of the Beast" but there is a mark in the accounting ledger that says 300,000 dollars for this scanner. The taxpayer pays for this and that money could of gone for teaching materials, books,or teachers salaries. It is disgusting this waste of money. Oh I hope this nonsense doesn't spread to other schools. Think of the wasted dollars the taxpayer will pay!

Quoting toomanypoodles:

 Wow....is this the way the dept. of education is spending taxpayer money? 

I just hope there are enough Bible believers out there to see this is the beginning of the end for us. 

 

I think it's desensitising people---getting them ready for the mark of the beast when it does come. If Satan can get a hold of the children his job becomes that much easier.

Sisteract
by Whoopie on Oct. 8, 2012 at 12:22 AM

In terms of the money- you know the excuse would be certain money is designated to certain areas of the budget- Labor is always sacred. I am sure the books, equipment and technology have allocations from different monies as well.

disneyrose
by Member on Oct. 8, 2012 at 12:24 AM

I don't like it, I wouldnt let my kid do it, and it has nothing to do with religion either

SEEKEROFSHELLS
by Platinum Member on Oct. 8, 2012 at 12:29 AM


Quoting toomanypoodles:

Quoting SEEKEROFSHELLS:

 I don't know if it is the " Mark of the Beast" but there is a mark in the accounting ledger that says 300,000 dollars for this scanner. The taxpayer pays for this and that money could of gone for teaching materials, books,or teachers salaries. It is disgusting this waste of money. Oh I hope this nonsense doesn't spread to other schools. Think of the wasted dollars the taxpayer will pay!

Quoting toomanypoodles:

 Wow....is this the way the dept. of education is spending taxpayer money? 

I just hope there are enough Bible believers out there to see this is the beginning of the end for us. 


I think it's desensitising people---getting them ready for the mark of the beast when it does come. If Satan can get a hold of the children his job becomes that much easier.

 Oh, OK, now I understand. Got ya!

taniamorse85
by Bronze Member on Oct. 8, 2012 at 12:31 AM

I would not be okay with this kind of system.  I'd much rather see something like was in place in my schools when I was growing up.  Each student was given a 4-digit pin to enter on a keypad at the lunch line register.  That pin identified the student and determined what the student owed for that meal.

lga1965
by on Oct. 8, 2012 at 12:32 AM
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Quoting toomanypoodles:

Quoting SEEKEROFSHELLS:

 I don't know if it is the " Mark of the Beast" but there is a mark in the accounting ledger that says 300,000 dollars for this scanner. The taxpayer pays for this and that money could of gone for teaching materials, books,or teachers salaries. It is disgusting this waste of money. Oh I hope this nonsense doesn't spread to other schools. Think of the wasted dollars the taxpayer will pay!

Quoting toomanypoodles:

 Wow....is this the way the dept. of education is spending taxpayer money? 

I just hope there are enough Bible believers out there to see this is the beginning of the end for us. 

 

I think it's desensitising people---getting them ready for the mark of the beast when it does come. If Satan can get a hold of the children his job becomes that much easier.

 LOL, "the mark of the beast"...yah,sure,you betcha. LOL. Wow....now I have heard everything! The "Poodles" and the mark of the beast. You must have watched "The Omen" too many times.

Oh wow.

toomanypoodles
by Ruby Member on Oct. 8, 2012 at 12:34 AM

 

 

Question: "What is the mark of the beast (666)?"

Answer:
The main passage in the Bible that mentions the “mark of the beast” is
Revelation 13:15-18. Other references can be found in Revelation 14:9, 11, 15:2, 16:2, 19:20, and 20:4. This mark acts as a seal for the followers of Antichrist and the false prophet (the spokesperson for the Antichrist). The false prophet (the second beast) is the one who causes people to take this mark. The mark is literally placed in the hand or forehead and is not simply a card someone carries.

The recent breakthroughs in medical implant chip and RFID technologies have increased interest in the mark of the beast spoken of in Revelation chapter 13. It is possible that the technology we are seeing today represents the beginning stages of what may eventually be used as the mark of the beast. It is important to realize that a medical implant chip is not the mark of the beast. The mark of the beast will be something given only to those who worship the Antichrist. Having a medical or financial microchip inserted into your right hand or forehead is not the mark of the beast. The mark of the beast will be an end-times identification required by the Antichrist in order to buy or sell, and it will be given only to those who worship the Antichrist.

Many good expositors of Revelation differ widely as to the exact nature of the mark of the beast. Besides the implanted chip view, other speculations include an ID card, a microchip, a barcode that is tattooed into the skin, or simply a mark that identifies someone as being faithful to the Antichrist's kingdom. This last view requires the least speculation, since it does not add any more information to what the Bible gives us. In other words, any of these things are possible, but at the same time they are all speculations. We should not spend a lot of time speculating on the precise details.

The meaning of 666 is a mystery as well. Some have speculated that there was a connection to June 6, 2006—06/06/06. However, in Revelation chapter 13, the number 666 identifies a person, not a date.
Revelation 13:18 tells us, “This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.” Somehow, the number 666 will identify the Antichrist. For centuries Bible interpreters have been trying to identify certain individuals with 666. Nothing is conclusive. That is why Revelation 13:18 says the number requires wisdom. When the Antichrist is revealed (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4), it will be clear who he is and how the number 666 identifies him.

Recommended Resource:
Understanding End Times Prophecy by Paul Benware.

 

slashteddy
by Bronze Member on Oct. 8, 2012 at 12:36 AM

...I'm confused as to exactly how this works. The kids scan their palms and bam it's paid for? Or do they pay in advance and scanning just deducts the cost of the meal from their balance? Does it charge the parents or something? :\

Considering how many times in school I missed out on lunch because the lines were so long that the bell rang almost as soon as I got to sit down, I'm all for ideas that help make it go faster. I'm just confused how this DOES make it faster.

mlg1989
by Bronze Member on Oct. 8, 2012 at 12:37 AM
Because just handling money is too difficult? I don't see why its even necessary. Why not continue to type in your last 4 digits of your SSN? Its not hard.
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