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Parents Upset Over Lunchtime Palm Scanner

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Parents Upset Over Lunchtime Palm Scanner

$300,000 system leads to privacy concerns.

Parents of students at Carroll County schools in Baltimore, Md., say a new policy that scans kids' palms to pay for their lunches goes too far.

Photo: Barbara Haddock Taylor/Baltimore Sun/MCT via Getty ImagesWith the PalmSecure system, students hover their hands over an infrared scanner that ID's them by the unique patterns in their skin and registers a sale, according to a report from the Daily Herald.

The Herald talked to Mike Richmond, who has two children at a Westminster elementary school. He said the scanning started before parents were given the chance to opt-out.

"I didn't appreciate how they handled it. I'm concerned about it. I know it's the way of the future, but it's fingerprinting, it's palm-printing."

The district said the goal is to decrease the time it takes to pay for lunches since the children have a limited amount of time to eat their meals.

The controversial system is operating in three Carroll County elementary schools with plans to expand to the whole district within a year. It's also used in many other schools around the country where there have also been concerns about invasion of privacy as well as the cost of the system. Once implemented, PalmSecure will run the Carroll County district about $300,000.

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Photo: Barbara Haddock Taylor/Baltimore Sun/MCT via Getty Images

 

 

by on Oct. 7, 2012 at 9:09 PM
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toomanypoodles
by Ruby Member on Oct. 8, 2012 at 12:37 AM
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Quoting lga1965:

 

Quoting toomanypoodles:

Quoting SEEKEROFSHELLS:

 I don't know if it is the " Mark of the Beast" but there is a mark in the accounting ledger that says 300,000 dollars for this scanner. The taxpayer pays for this and that money could of gone for teaching materials, books,or teachers salaries. It is disgusting this waste of money. Oh I hope this nonsense doesn't spread to other schools. Think of the wasted dollars the taxpayer will pay!

Quoting toomanypoodles:

 Wow....is this the way the dept. of education is spending taxpayer money? 

I just hope there are enough Bible believers out there to see this is the beginning of the end for us. 

 

I think it's desensitising people---getting them ready for the mark of the beast when it does come. If Satan can get a hold of the children his job becomes that much easier.

 LOL, "the mark of the beast"...yah,sure,you betcha. LOL. Wow....now I have heard everything! The "Poodles" and the mark of the beast. You must have watched "The Omen" too many times.

Oh wow.

 If ya live long enough, Iga, YOU will be facing this.  You're mockery and lack of acceptance of Christ will lead you to your destruction. 

One day you just may say, "OH, so this is what that stupid poodle lady was talking about!"

lga1965
by on Oct. 8, 2012 at 12:45 AM

 I know....but I don't believe any of that. I think the Bible is fiction with some good advice but basically fiction and most of it is too violent and extremely outdated. there is no way you can convince me that fingerprinting or palm printing is a bad thing or related in any way to "the mark of the beast". I am not surprised that you believe that. Naive and misled.

.....sigh.........

Quoting toomanypoodles:

 

 

Question: "What is the mark of the beast (666)?"

Answer:
The main passage in the Bible that mentions the “mark of the beast” is
Revelation 13:15-18. Other references can be found in Revelation 14:9, 11, 15:2, 16:2, 19:20, and 20:4. This mark acts as a seal for the followers of Antichrist and the false prophet (the spokesperson for the Antichrist). The false prophet (the second beast) is the one who causes people to take this mark. The mark is literally placed in the hand or forehead and is not simply a card someone carries.

The recent breakthroughs in medical implant chip and RFID technologies have increased interest in the mark of the beast spoken of in Revelation chapter 13. It is possible that the technology we are seeing today represents the beginning stages of what may eventually be used as the mark of the beast. It is important to realize that a medical implant chip is not the mark of the beast. The mark of the beast will be something given only to those who worship the Antichrist. Having a medical or financial microchip inserted into your right hand or forehead is not the mark of the beast. The mark of the beast will be an end-times identification required by the Antichrist in order to buy or sell, and it will be given only to those who worship the Antichrist.

Many good expositors of Revelation differ widely as to the exact nature of the mark of the beast. Besides the implanted chip view, other speculations include an ID card, a microchip, a barcode that is tattooed into the skin, or simply a mark that identifies someone as being faithful to the Antichrist's kingdom. This last view requires the least speculation, since it does not add any more information to what the Bible gives us. In other words, any of these things are possible, but at the same time they are all speculations. We should not spend a lot of time speculating on the precise details.

The meaning of 666 is a mystery as well. Some have speculated that there was a connection to June 6, 2006—06/06/06. However, in Revelation chapter 13, the number 666 identifies a person, not a date.
Revelation 13:18 tells us, “This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.” Somehow, the number 666 will identify the Antichrist. For centuries Bible interpreters have been trying to identify certain individuals with 666. Nothing is conclusive. That is why Revelation 13:18 says the number requires wisdom. When the Antichrist is revealed (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4), it will be clear who he is and how the number 666 identifies him.

Recommended Resource:
Understanding End Times Prophecy by Paul Benware.

 

 

tmajma032408
by Member on Oct. 8, 2012 at 6:37 AM
The Bible is fiction? Oh my. I believe that this has to do with "the mark of the beast". Some people will find out when the world ends that the Bible is "fiction" :*

Quoting lga1965:

 I know....but I don't believe any of that. I think the Bible is fiction with some good advice but basically fiction and most of it is too violent and extremely outdated. there is no way you can convince me that fingerprinting or palm printing is a bad thing or related in any way to "the mark of the beast". I am not surprised that you believe that. Naive and misled.


.....sigh.........


Quoting toomanypoodles:


 


 


Question: "What is the mark of the beast (666)?"

Answer:
The main passage in the Bible that mentions the “mark of the beast” is
Revelation 13:15-18. Other references can be found in Revelation 14:9, 11, 15:2, 16:2, 19:20, and 20:4. This mark acts as a seal for the followers of Antichrist and the false prophet (the spokesperson for the Antichrist). The false prophet (the second beast) is the one who causes people to take this mark. The mark is literally placed in the hand or forehead and is not simply a card someone carries.

The recent breakthroughs in medical implant chip and RFID technologies have increased interest in the mark of the beast spoken of in Revelation chapter 13. It is possible that the technology we are seeing today represents the beginning stages of what may eventually be used as the mark of the beast. It is important to realize that a medical implant chip is not the mark of the beast. The mark of the beast will be something given only to those who worship the Antichrist. Having a medical or financial microchip inserted into your right hand or forehead is not the mark of the beast. The mark of the beast will be an end-times identification required by the Antichrist in order to buy or sell, and it will be given only to those who worship the Antichrist.

Many good expositors of Revelation differ widely as to the exact nature of the mark of the beast. Besides the implanted chip view, other speculations include an ID card, a microchip, a barcode that is tattooed into the skin, or simply a mark that identifies someone as being faithful to the Antichrist's kingdom. This last view requires the least speculation, since it does not add any more information to what the Bible gives us. In other words, any of these things are possible, but at the same time they are all speculations. We should not spend a lot of time speculating on the precise details.

The meaning of 666 is a mystery as well. Some have speculated that there was a connection to June 6, 2006—06/06/06. However, in Revelation chapter 13, the number 666 identifies a person, not a date.
Revelation 13:18 tells us, “This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.” Somehow, the number 666 will identify the Antichrist. For centuries Bible interpreters have been trying to identify certain individuals with 666. Nothing is conclusive. That is why Revelation 13:18 says the number requires wisdom. When the Antichrist is revealed (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4), it will be clear who he is and how the number 666 identifies him.

Recommended Resource:
Understanding End Times Prophecy by Paul Benware.


 



 

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disneymom2two
by Member on Oct. 8, 2012 at 7:36 AM

The price tag is what gives me pause.  I like the idea of kids getting through the line quickly but our district is always saying there's no money for anything so if they paid that much money on this, I think there'd be outcry.  In one of the articles, a parent said there should have been an opt-in, rather than an opt-out.  I know from experience that requiring parents to opt out keeps a higher percentage actually doing it.  We used to do opt-in for different things but there are parents who really don't care if their kids participate in things but will either lose the form or just never bother to return it.  When you require opting out, only the people who really oppose whatever its about will return the form.

disneymom2two
by Member on Oct. 8, 2012 at 7:39 AM


Quoting lga1965:

 I know....but I don't believe any of that. I think the Bible is fiction with some good advice but basically fiction and most of it is too violent and extremely outdated. there is no way you can convince me that fingerprinting or palm printing is a bad thing or related in any way to "the mark of the beast". I am not surprised that you believe that. Naive and misled.

.....sigh......... 

I don't believe the Bible is fiction but I also don't believe finger or palm printing is the mark of the mark of the beast.  That sounds a bit over the edge to me.

Woodbabe
by Woodie on Oct. 8, 2012 at 7:43 AM
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If God created each and every one of us, how can the fingerprints/palmprints he gave each of us be 'the mark of the beast'? 

I'd be more inclined to accept that theory if it they were micro-chipping the kids in order to be scanned to eat lunch.

 Sexy If its unladylike, fattening or fun, I'm in!
  

lga1965
by on Oct. 8, 2012 at 8:58 AM

 

Quoting toomanypoodles:

 

Quoting lga1965:

 

Quoting toomanypoodles:

Quoting SEEKEROFSHELLS:

 I don't know if it is the " Mark of the Beast" but there is a mark in the accounting ledger that says 300,000 dollars for this scanner. The taxpayer pays for this and that money could of gone for teaching materials, books,or teachers salaries. It is disgusting this waste of money. Oh I hope this nonsense doesn't spread to other schools. Think of the wasted dollars the taxpayer will pay!

Quoting toomanypoodles:

 Wow....is this the way the dept. of education is spending taxpayer money? 

I just hope there are enough Bible believers out there to see this is the beginning of the end for us. 

 

I think it's desensitising people---getting them ready for the mark of the beast when it does come. If Satan can get a hold of the children his job becomes that much easier.

 LOL, "the mark of the beast"...yah,sure,you betcha. LOL. Wow....now I have heard everything! The "Poodles" and the mark of the beast. You must have watched "The Omen" too many times.

Oh wow.

 If ya live long enough, Iga, YOU will be facing this.  You're mockery and lack of acceptance of Christ will lead you to your destruction. 

One day you just may say, "OH, so this is what that stupid poodle lady was talking about!"

 I believe in God and I think Jesus was a wise man, not a son of God. But I believe the way to be "saved" is to lead a good life in which you are honest and care about helping others and making other people happy.

malxslady
by Member on Oct. 8, 2012 at 8:59 AM
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I would love to see something like that where my kids go to school. If it moves the kids through faster so they have more time to eat that is great. I do not see how it is an  invasion of privacy. The price tag seems high if you are looking at the fact that it is only at 3 schools but it will balance out more when you add more schools. I also that with the use of the palmreaders that it has other uses as well (i.e. child comes missing their finger prints are readily available).

lga1965
by on Oct. 8, 2012 at 9:57 AM
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Quoting malxslady:

I would love to see something like that where my kids go to school. If it moves the kids through faster so they have more time to eat that is great. I do not see how it is an  invasion of privacy. The price tag seems high if you are looking at the fact that it is only at 3 schools but it will balance out more when you add more schools. I also that with the use of the palmreaders that it has other uses as well (i.e. child comes missing their finger prints are readily available).

 YES!  That is true! Good comment--I never thought of that but what a good idea!!

 

ShadowLark
by Bronze Member on Oct. 8, 2012 at 10:03 AM
Yeah, that's my only objection. How many programs AREN'T being funded with that $300,000? They could scan a card and it would be just as fast and probably cost half as much.


Quoting Paperfishies:

As cool as that is, that $300,000 could have been better spent on books, equipment or learning materials

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