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How is someone old enough to decide they'd give their life to defend their counrty but not old enough to...

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Drink a beer?

by on Oct. 9, 2012 at 9:37 AM
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Ms.KitKat
by Platinum Member on Oct. 9, 2012 at 11:12 AM

 Finally, ONE thing Obama can not be blamed for!

Quoting TheStepMonster:

Blame the federal government :)

States are ultimately the ones who decide what they're drinking age is in their state.  However, thanks to the National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984, the states are faced with a 10% reduction in federal transportation funds if their drinking age falls below 21.  This legislation was pushed through thanks to mad support from MADD.

It wasn't until 1988 that all 50 states were in compiance. 

 

Woodbabe
by Woodie on Oct. 9, 2012 at 11:14 AM

And yet we entrust them with millions of dollars of equipment and I know the Marines empower their people to take charge of younger Marines and to lead them way before the age of 21. They sound pretty responsible to me. I think its the parents suffocating their kids and extending their childhoods that creates this lack of responsibilty you speak of. They are more than ready for it, if given the opportunity!

Quoting Ms.KitKat:

 THIS.....

Quoting EireLass:

At 18, their brain is not finished. They are still very moldable, which makes it very easy for the military to impart what they need on the individuals. They are 'disposable', as typically the 18 year old does not have a famlily (wife, children, responsibilities). They are coming into their peak of strength, testosterone is running high. Most 18 year olds are not responsible. Under the guidance of the military, they don't necessarily have to be responsible, they only have to understand how to follow the rules.

 


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TheStepMonster
by on Oct. 9, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Nope - this RR lover will fully admit it was Ronald Reagan who signed that into legislation. 

It came on the heels of a study by an independent group that showed that alcohol related accidents increased in those aged 18-20.


Quoting Ms.KitKat:


 Finally, ONE thing Obama can not be blamed for!

Quoting TheStepMonster:

Blame the federal government :)

States are ultimately the ones who decide what they're drinking age is in their state.  However, thanks to the National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984, the states are faced with a 10% reduction in federal transportation funds if their drinking age falls below 21.  This legislation was pushed through thanks to mad support from MADD.

It wasn't until 1988 that all 50 states were in compiance. 

 


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caito
by Silver Member on Oct. 9, 2012 at 11:22 AM

For fuckin' real.

My husband turned 18 in his home country and could drink. Then he came back here when he was 19 and couldn't drink. What magical change happened between Costa Rica and here? He was suddenly unable to handle alcohol? LOL

catchup29
by on Oct. 9, 2012 at 11:23 AM

I went to traffic court a few years ago.  A man, 19, just back from Iraq, was injured.  Was in front of the judge for drunk driving.  She went on and on for about 15 minutes how she thinks its a shame that he isn't allowed to drink but he can go to war.  However, she punished him according to the law.

Ms.KitKat
by Platinum Member on Oct. 9, 2012 at 11:26 AM

 meh- question asked and Eirelass did such a wonderful job with her post- taking the thoughts right out of my mind LOL - I went with her answer.

I will not argue your points as I fully acknowldge that yes, these young people use very expensive equipment (only wish more of the money was spent towards ensuring the safety of our young people- but that's awhole 'nother thread); and the marines especailly are a whole breed above and the program instills leadership/responsibilty at a very young age (before their time perhaps but that's a whole'nother thread too) but at the end of the day- I stand by Eirelass' statement. It was quite succinct.

Quoting Woodbabe:

And yet we entrust them with millions of dollars of equipment and I know the Marines empower their people to take charge of younger Marines and to lead them way before the age of 21. They sound pretty responsible to me. I think its the parents suffocating their kids and extending their childhoods that creates this lack of responsibilty you speak of. They are more than ready for it, if given the opportunity!

Quoting Ms.KitKat:

 THIS.....

Quoting EireLass:

At 18, their brain is not finished. They are still very moldable, which makes it very easy for the military to impart what they need on the individuals. They are 'disposable', as typically the 18 year old does not have a famlily (wife, children, responsibilities). They are coming into their peak of strength, testosterone is running high. Most 18 year olds are not responsible. Under the guidance of the military, they don't necessarily have to be responsible, they only have to understand how to follow the rules.

 


 

thecoffeefairy
by Bronze Member on Oct. 9, 2012 at 11:27 AM
The part of our brain that allows us to make rational decisions doesn't fully develop until out early 20's. that's when we can drink. It's also when we should join the military.
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Ms.KitKat
by Platinum Member on Oct. 9, 2012 at 11:29 AM

 The law is the law and no man- not even a marine is above it. I bet his license was suspended. And he had a sizable fine to pay too.

If he was smart enough to drink, then he should have been smart enough not to drive. Apparently that 19 year old was not smart. Goes back to the same argument.

Quoting catchup29:

I went to traffic court a few years ago.  A man, 19, just back from Iraq, was injured.  Was in front of the judge for drunk driving.  She went on and on for about 15 minutes how she thinks its a shame that he isn't allowed to drink but he can go to war.  However, she punished him according to the law.

 

Ms.KitKat
by Platinum Member on Oct. 9, 2012 at 11:35 AM

 um- ewwwww. but ok.

and didn;t fatalies decrease after the law was enacted too? so it was a good thing to raise the drinking age. and yet we want our young people with government issued guns and driving large tanks be able to drink? why are we defending /promting our underage military to drink ?

Quoting TheStepMonster:

Nope - this RR lover will fully admit it was Ronald Reagan who signed that into legislation. 

It came on the heels of a study by an independent group that showed that alcohol related accidents increased in those aged 18-20.

 

Quoting Ms.KitKat:


 Finally, ONE thing Obama can not be blamed for!

Quoting TheStepMonster:

Blame the federal government :)

States are ultimately the ones who decide what they're drinking age is in their state.  However, thanks to the National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984, the states are faced with a 10% reduction in federal transportation funds if their drinking age falls below 21.  This legislation was pushed through thanks to mad support from MADD.

It wasn't until 1988 that all 50 states were in compiance. 

 


 

catchup29
by on Oct. 9, 2012 at 11:36 AM


Quoting Ms.KitKat:

 The law is the law and no man- not even a marine is above it. I bet his license was suspended. And he had a sizable fine to pay too.

If he was smart enough to drink, then he should have been smart enough not to drive. Apparently that 19 year old was not smart. Goes back to the same argument.

Quoting catchup29:

I went to traffic court a few years ago.  A man, 19, just back from Iraq, was injured.  Was in front of the judge for drunk driving.  She went on and on for about 15 minutes how she thinks its a shame that he isn't allowed to drink but he can go to war.  However, she punished him according to the law.

 

Didn't say it was right or wrong, just saying she had sympathy for him, empathy but followed the law.  He had an obvious mental disability from being over there, and his attorney said that since being back from Iraq, he has been in therapy.

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