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A Mom For Medicaid....heres why..

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 Hi,

I am not on medicaid.I am lucky enough to have blue cross blue shield medical insurance through my husbands job.

I do however have a young cousin who is 22 and disabled that I care for in my home.She too is also very lucky.She has help from medicaid to help with all her medical costs.She can be cared for properly and get her doctor visits and medicines that could never be afforded without it.

I also have a best friend who has a wonderful 8 year old son who happens to have autism.Without medicaid she would never be able to care for him as a single mom.

My question is what are your thoughts on medicaid and goverment health insurance.Are the moocher lazy stigmas a one size fits all when it comes to truelly needing government assistance?Do you think medicaid should be cut despite disability needs.....oh well tough luck...not my problem.If so what can moms like myself do as resources to care for children with special needs?

You see its not about a good debate.....its about life happens.

~A Mom For Obama

~Tia

 

 

by on Oct. 10, 2012 at 7:34 AM
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ReadWriteLuv
by Silver Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 4:40 PM
Just being honest, and quite frankly I know I'm not alone. If it doesn't affect me directly, I don't really care other than an "awww, that's too bad".
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Ktina11
by Bronze Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 4:40 PM
See that is my issue too!! Our premiums already top out at 33% of dh's salary (17,000 annually). Then we pay first 3,000 out of pocket before insurance covers any. One serious illness or accident and our 18,000 out of pocket for the year wipes out his entire salary. This is outrageous!!


Quoting SunshneDaydream:

So, my healthy kids should just go uninsured because my husband and I (who work extremely hard) can't afford it without making some drastic cuts?

(And btw, they ARE currently uninsured because we've been trying to figure out a way to avoid Medicaid if we can, but it's not looking good). 

Quoting pamelax3:

As I said it depends on the situation! If you have a disabled child/adult sure you should qualify, but if you are using the government insurance because it makes your budget to tight to pay for your own, then no you should not be able to qualigy


Quoting SunshneDaydream:


How do people who work hard but can't afford the skyrocketing cost of insurance NOT qualify as needing it? 


Quoting pamelax3:


I think it depends on the situation. If a disable child/adult needs the help then yes they should get! But for all the people who say my dh makes good money but we can not afford insurance no they should not! It is a program for the poor and needy! Not the lazy and moochers!  It is also in place for the people who fall on hard times, not the ones that want to keep going to school as an excuse not to go to work .









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asfriend
by on Oct. 10, 2012 at 4:44 PM
Nope, she is the salvation for this country.


Quoting SunshneDaydream:

You are a selfish person and exactly what is wrong with this country.  Have a nice day. 

Quoting ReadWriteLuv:

Of course I care, but I have great insurance :-)



Quoting fullxbusymom:

Okay so you are selfish great now what happens tomorrow if one of the below circumstances ends up being you?? Would you care then??





Quoting ReadWriteLuv:

All of those things are sad. Really, it's sad, and I feel bad that sad things happen. Too bad. *Shakes head*

Ok, now honestly that's it, right there above. That's all I care, that 30 seconds it took to type that. Over it now. I'm still going to go about my day, buy my groceries, gas up my car and go home to my family. I don't care enough to want to "help" strangers. My family is covered as far as health insurance goes. At the end of the day, that's all that *I* really care about. I don't want to doll out dollars to anyone else. It is not the government's job to take care of you, not in a capitalist society.
Quoting fullxbusymom:

You #1 Welfare has been around since the great depression in 1935...right???



You also know that before it was established that if you couldn't afford food or medical care you DIED right???



Nope you are wrong Insurance is private and not going to drop even a dime if the gov't drops helping its citizens that are in need.



Also what do you purpose for the disabled that can not work?? Like my BIL who was walking down the St. minding his business and got hit by a drunk driver and lost his leg. He now can't work, so what should he do?? Not eat, go to all his dtrs appts or have a place to live??



What about the family that had it all and lost their job and now have no insurance or income??



What are your solutions to help these people??





Quoting slashteddy:


Quoting ambermario4ever:

Quoting fullxbusymom:











Well for one if we got rid of it then prices for care would go down as well as the price for private insurance.





Second it is everyone responsibility to take care of themselves and their family on their own. In the old days if you could not afford it then you did not get it. There was no credit cards and no Ill pay you laters.


Because everything was better in the "old days," right?



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pamelax3
by Gold Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 4:44 PM

LOL!! On the bad example!! No they still do not qualify as needing it! Chances are they have a "bill" they could do with out to be able to afford the insurance. There is no reason hard working people should continue to pay for others, so their budgets are not tight, it is crazy! People have got to start taking care of themselves.

Quoting SunshneDaydream:

Okay, I'm a bad example.  We could lower our quality of life a bit to afford it if we chose to.  But there are plenty of people out there who have to choose between health insurance and paying rent, bills, and putting decent food on the table.  What about them?  Do they qualify as "needing" it to you, even if nobody is disabled?  

Quoting pamelax3:

Make the cuts you need too! Why should I have to work just as hard and pay my skyrocketing health insurance cost and yours?

Quoting SunshneDaydream:

So, my healthy kids should just go uninsured because my husband and I (who work extremely hard) can't afford it without making some drastic cuts?

(And btw, they ARE currently uninsured because we've been trying to figure out a way to avoid Medicaid if we can, but it's not looking good). 

Quoting pamelax3:

As I said it depends on the situation! If you have a disabled child/adult sure you should qualify, but if you are using the government insurance because it makes your budget to tight to pay for your own, then no you should not be able to qualigy

Quoting SunshneDaydream:

How do people who work hard but can't afford the skyrocketing cost of insurance NOT qualify as needing it? 

Quoting pamelax3:

I think it depends on the situation. If a disable child/adult needs the help then yes they should get! But for all the people who say my dh makes good money but we can not afford insurance no they should not! It is a program for the poor and needy! Not the lazy and moochers!  It is also in place for the people who fall on hard times, not the ones that want to keep going to school as an excuse not to go to work .

 


 


 



nb34
by Silver Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 4:46 PM
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Do you know one of the first things that happens to people who get extremely sick is? They can't work. They miss work and they loose their job and their career that they have worked for their whole lives, and their wonderful awesome insurance. Just saying. You might want to watch it up on your high horse!

Quoting ReadWriteLuv:

Not going to happen. Rock solid career fields. But thanks anyway.

Quoting fullxbusymom:

You wouldn't if you or SO lost their job tomorrow though.



Quoting ReadWriteLuv:

Of course I care, but I have great insurance :-)





Quoting fullxbusymom:

Okay so you are selfish great now what happens tomorrow if one of the below circumstances ends up being you?? Would you care then??







Quoting ReadWriteLuv:

All of those things are sad. Really, it's sad, and I feel bad that sad things happen. Too bad. *Shakes head*

Ok, now honestly that's it, right there above. That's all I care, that 30 seconds it took to type that. Over it now. I'm still going to go about my day, buy my groceries, gas up my car and go home to my family. I don't care enough to want to "help" strangers. My family is covered as far as health insurance goes. At the end of the day, that's all that *I* really care about. I don't want to doll out dollars to anyone else. It is not the government's job to take care of you, not in a capitalist society.
Quoting fullxbusymom:

You #1 Welfare has been around since the great depression in 1935...right???



You also know that before it was established that if you couldn't afford food or medical care you DIED right???



Nope you are wrong Insurance is private and not going to drop even a dime if the gov't drops helping its citizens that are in need.



Also what do you purpose for the disabled that can not work?? Like my BIL who was walking down the St. minding his business and got hit by a drunk driver and lost his leg. He now can't work, so what should he do?? Not eat, go to all his dtrs appts or have a place to live??



What about the family that had it all and lost their job and now have no insurance or income??



What are your solutions to help these people??





Quoting slashteddy:


Quoting ambermario4ever:

Quoting fullxbusymom:











Well for one if we got rid of it then prices for care would go down as well as the price for private insurance.





Second it is everyone responsibility to take care of themselves and their family on their own. In the old days if you could not afford it then you did not get it. There was no credit cards and no Ill pay you laters.


Because everything was better in the "old days," right?


viv212
by Gold Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 4:49 PM
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That argument is like saying I put my child in private school and donate time and money for a better education, so why should I pay taxes for YOUR child's school?

It doesn't make sense. It's food for families. How can you deny that, especially for children?


Quoting pamelax3:

Make the cuts you need too! Why should I have to work just as hard and pay my skyrocketing health insurance cost and yours?


Quoting SunshneDaydream:


So, my healthy kids should just go uninsured because my husband and I (who work extremely hard) can't afford it without making some drastic cuts?


(And btw, they ARE currently uninsured because we've been trying to figure out a way to avoid Medicaid if we can, but it's not looking good). 


Quoting pamelax3:


As I said it depends on the situation! If you have a disabled child/adult sure you should qualify, but if you are using the government insurance because it makes your budget to tight to pay for your own, then no you should not be able to qualigy


Quoting SunshneDaydream:


How do people who work hard but can't afford the skyrocketing cost of insurance NOT qualify as needing it? 


Quoting pamelax3:


I think it depends on the situation. If a disable child/adult needs the help then yes they should get! But for all the people who say my dh makes good money but we can not afford insurance no they should not! It is a program for the poor and needy! Not the lazy and moochers!  It is also in place for the people who fall on hard times, not the ones that want to keep going to school as an excuse not to go to work .


 




 





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pamelax3
by Gold Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 4:49 PM

It is that way for a lot of people! But that does not mean it is my responsibility to make sure you still have a salary at the end of the year! I understand on the amount of out of pocket, but why would your families out of pocket expense be any one else's problem?

Quoting Ktina11:

See that is my issue too!! Our premiums already top out at 33% of dh's salary (17,000 annually). Then we pay first 3,000 out of pocket before insurance covers any. One serious illness or accident and our 18,000 out of pocket for the year wipes out his entire salary. This is outrageous!!


Quoting SunshneDaydream:

So, my healthy kids should just go uninsured because my husband and I (who work extremely hard) can't afford it without making some drastic cuts?

(And btw, they ARE currently uninsured because we've been trying to figure out a way to avoid Medicaid if we can, but it's not looking good). 

Quoting pamelax3:

As I said it depends on the situation! If you have a disabled child/adult sure you should qualify, but if you are using the government insurance because it makes your budget to tight to pay for your own, then no you should not be able to qualigy


Quoting SunshneDaydream:


How do people who work hard but can't afford the skyrocketing cost of insurance NOT qualify as needing it? 


Quoting pamelax3:


I think it depends on the situation. If a disable child/adult needs the help then yes they should get! But for all the people who say my dh makes good money but we can not afford insurance no they should not! It is a program for the poor and needy! Not the lazy and moochers!  It is also in place for the people who fall on hard times, not the ones that want to keep going to school as an excuse not to go to work .


 




 




nb34
by Silver Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 4:51 PM
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No you are not alone. Unfortunately there are too many like you in this country. That's exactly why America is where it is now. Not so great anymore, is it?


Quoting ReadWriteLuv:v


Just being honest, and quite frankly I know I'm not alone. If it doesn't affect me directly, I don't really care other than an "awww, that's too bad".


ReadWriteLuv
by Silver Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 4:51 PM
Hate on me if you want, it doesn't bother me. I stand by my opinion.
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ReadWriteLuv
by Silver Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 4:52 PM
Define "great".
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