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A Mom For Medicaid....heres why..

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 Hi,

I am not on medicaid.I am lucky enough to have blue cross blue shield medical insurance through my husbands job.

I do however have a young cousin who is 22 and disabled that I care for in my home.She too is also very lucky.She has help from medicaid to help with all her medical costs.She can be cared for properly and get her doctor visits and medicines that could never be afforded without it.

I also have a best friend who has a wonderful 8 year old son who happens to have autism.Without medicaid she would never be able to care for him as a single mom.

My question is what are your thoughts on medicaid and goverment health insurance.Are the moocher lazy stigmas a one size fits all when it comes to truelly needing government assistance?Do you think medicaid should be cut despite disability needs.....oh well tough luck...not my problem.If so what can moms like myself do as resources to care for children with special needs?

You see its not about a good debate.....its about life happens.

~A Mom For Obama

~Tia

 

 

by on Oct. 10, 2012 at 7:34 AM
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pamelax3
by Gold Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 4:52 PM

Same reason I pay for your child's school.. It is not food it is health insurance! Most people on government insurance are there so they can have a little bit more money in their wallet at the end of the month. Why should my wallet be thinner so these people can be more comfortable

Quoting viv212:

That argument is like saying I put my child in private school and donate time and money for a better education, so why should I pay taxes for YOUR child's school?

It doesn't make sense. It's food for families. How can you deny that, especially for children?


Quoting pamelax3:

Make the cuts you need too! Why should I have to work just as hard and pay my skyrocketing health insurance cost and yours?


Quoting SunshneDaydream:


So, my healthy kids should just go uninsured because my husband and I (who work extremely hard) can't afford it without making some drastic cuts?


(And btw, they ARE currently uninsured because we've been trying to figure out a way to avoid Medicaid if we can, but it's not looking good). 


Quoting pamelax3:


As I said it depends on the situation! If you have a disabled child/adult sure you should qualify, but if you are using the government insurance because it makes your budget to tight to pay for your own, then no you should not be able to qualigy


Quoting SunshneDaydream:


How do people who work hard but can't afford the skyrocketing cost of insurance NOT qualify as needing it? 


Quoting pamelax3:


I think it depends on the situation. If a disable child/adult needs the help then yes they should get! But for all the people who say my dh makes good money but we can not afford insurance no they should not! It is a program for the poor and needy! Not the lazy and moochers!  It is also in place for the people who fall on hard times, not the ones that want to keep going to school as an excuse not to go to work .


 




 




 


pamelax3
by Gold Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 4:54 PM

How is she exactly? Just curious! America is a great country, I just think Americans are getting tired of people not taking care of themselves and their families

Quoting nb34:

No you are not alone. Unfortunately there are too many like you in this country. That's exactly why America is where it is now. Not so great anymore, is it?

 

Quoting ReadWriteLuv:v


Just being honest, and quite frankly I know I'm not alone. If it doesn't affect me directly, I don't really care other than an "awww, that's too bad".



Stephanie329
by Platinum Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 4:55 PM
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You would like to see the disable girl and the autistic boy in the OP not receive the care they need. The OP states that the family cannot afford it, so no matter who's responsibility it is, they still wouldn't get care.

People don't have crystal balls so stating that they shouldn't have had children with disabilities is asinine.

I'd like to know if you want most things to be like "in the old days". Whatever that means. Perhaps the days when most disabled kids died?

Or you are just trolling this post. There are hopefully very few people that are cold hearted to this degree.


Quoting ambermario4ever:

Quoting fullxbusymom:








Well for one if we got rid of it then prices for care would go down as well as the price for private insurance.



Second it is everyone responsibility to take care of themselves and their family on their own. In the old days if you could not afford it then you did not get it. There was no credit cards and no Ill pay you laters.

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btamilee
by Silver Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 4:57 PM
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I am curious as to why those who pay for their own health insurance, and don't want to pay for someone else's are considered *selfish*, yet when someone makes the decisions to not pay for their own health insurance....but EXPECTS others to pay for it for them aren't considered selfish?   And...yes I do know that some cannot afford insurance, but sadly......many COULD afford it, but make other life choices instead!  New cars, cell phones and going out every weekend are a few other things that come to mind!  Not saying this is true in every case....but I see it happen more often then it should!  Life is full of making daily sacrifices.....and I think for many....they are getting sick of working their asses off, while others expect to be supported.  Nothing in life is free...it is earned!

nb34
by Gold Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 5:00 PM
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Yeah, I don't see anything great when millions of people who work still can't afford health insurance. Most jobs pay shit with no benefits. The curse of capitalism, that is.

Quoting pamelax3:

How is she exactly? Just curious! America is a great country, I just think Americans are getting tired of people not taking care of themselves and their families

Quoting nb34:

No you are not alone. Unfortunately there are too many like you in this country. That's exactly why America is where it is now. Not so great anymore, is it?


Quoting ReadWriteLuv:v


Just being honest, and quite frankly I know I'm not alone. If it doesn't affect me directly, I don't really care other than an "awww, that's too bad".




pamelax3
by Gold Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Maybe if these millions of people made other cuts, they could afford it! If the jobs in your field do not pay with benefits, maybe explore a different field.

Quoting nb34:

Yeah, I don't see anything great when millions of people who work still can't afford health insurance. Most jobs pay shit with no benefits. The curse of capitalism, that is.

Quoting pamelax3:

How is she exactly? Just curious! America is a great country, I just think Americans are getting tired of people not taking care of themselves and their families

Quoting nb34:

No you are not alone. Unfortunately there are too many like you in this country. That's exactly why America is where it is now. Not so great anymore, is it?

 

Quoting ReadWriteLuv:v


Just being honest, and quite frankly I know I'm not alone. If it doesn't affect me directly, I don't really care other than an "awww, that's too bad".


 



Me.and.Them
by on Oct. 10, 2012 at 5:03 PM
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 I think the programs are great for those who need them.

I had to use medicaid when I was pregnant with my first, since I happened to qualify for my insurance at work 2 months after I got pregnant and they wouldn't let me sign up because my pregnancy was a preexisting condition - so I pretty much didn't have a choice.
I am very thankful for medicaid.
I think it is unfortunate that there are people who abuse these programs, but I think the good they do outweighs that.

ReadWriteLuv
by Silver Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 5:05 PM
Ok, but you don't HAVE to take a shit job. You have the option of getting an education and bettering yourself or switching to a higher paying career field. Even if you work at Walmart or Target, you can get a bachelors in business and move up the management ladder. Same with places like McDonalds, where not only do you have the option, but they provide scholarships to aid you in your quest.



Quoting nb34:

Yeah, I don't see anything great when millions of people who work still can't afford health insurance. Most jobs pay shit with no benefits. The curse of capitalism, that is.

Quoting pamelax3:

How is she exactly? Just curious! America is a great country, I just think Americans are getting tired of people not taking care of themselves and their families


Quoting nb34:


No you are not alone. Unfortunately there are too many like you in this country. That's exactly why America is where it is now. Not so great anymore, is it?




Quoting ReadWriteLuv:v



Just being honest, and quite frankly I know I'm not alone. If it doesn't affect me directly, I don't really care other than an "awww, that's too bad".





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Stephanie329
by Platinum Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 5:05 PM
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I hope you are just purposely making statements to disgust others, if not, hopefully you have no children that can be influenced by you.

Quoting ReadWriteLuv:

All of those things are sad. Really, it's sad, and I feel bad that sad things happen. Too bad. *Shakes head*

Ok, now honestly that's it, right there above. That's all I care, that 30 seconds it took to type that. Over it now. I'm still going to go about my day, buy my groceries, gas up my car and go home to my family. I don't care enough to want to "help" strangers. My family is covered as far as health insurance goes. At the end of the day, that's all that *I* really care about. I don't want to doll out dollars to anyone else. It is not the government's job to take care of you, not in a capitalist society.
Quoting fullxbusymom:

You #1 Welfare has been around since the great depression in 1935...right???



You also know that before it was established that if you couldn't afford food or medical care you DIED right???



Nope you are wrong Insurance is private and not going to drop even a dime if the gov't drops helping its citizens that are in need.



Also what do you purpose for the disabled that can not work?? Like my BIL who was walking down the St. minding his business and got hit by a drunk driver and lost his leg. He now can't work, so what should he do?? Not eat, go to all his dtrs appts or have a place to live??



What about the family that had it all and lost their job and now have no insurance or income??



What are your solutions to help these people??





Quoting slashteddy:


Quoting ambermario4ever:

Quoting fullxbusymom:











Well for one if we got rid of it then prices for care would go down as well as the price for private insurance.





Second it is everyone responsibility to take care of themselves and their family on their own. In the old days if you could not afford it then you did not get it. There was no credit cards and no Ill pay you laters.


Because everything was better in the "old days," right?

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ReadWriteLuv
by Silver Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 5:06 PM
*YAWN*

Quoting Stephanie329:

I hope you are just purposely making statements to disgust others, if not, hopefully you have no children that can be influenced by you.



Quoting ReadWriteLuv:

All of those things are sad. Really, it's sad, and I feel bad that sad things happen. Too bad. *Shakes head*

Ok, now honestly that's it, right there above. That's all I care, that 30 seconds it took to type that. Over it now. I'm still going to go about my day, buy my groceries, gas up my car and go home to my family. I don't care enough to want to "help" strangers. My family is covered as far as health insurance goes. At the end of the day, that's all that *I* really care about. I don't want to doll out dollars to anyone else. It is not the government's job to take care of you, not in a capitalist society.
Quoting fullxbusymom:

You #1 Welfare has been around since the great depression in 1935...right???



You also know that before it was established that if you couldn't afford food or medical care you DIED right???



Nope you are wrong Insurance is private and not going to drop even a dime if the gov't drops helping its citizens that are in need.



Also what do you purpose for the disabled that can not work?? Like my BIL who was walking down the St. minding his business and got hit by a drunk driver and lost his leg. He now can't work, so what should he do?? Not eat, go to all his dtrs appts or have a place to live??



What about the family that had it all and lost their job and now have no insurance or income??



What are your solutions to help these people??





Quoting slashteddy:


Quoting ambermario4ever:

Quoting fullxbusymom:











Well for one if we got rid of it then prices for care would go down as well as the price for private insurance.





Second it is everyone responsibility to take care of themselves and their family on their own. In the old days if you could not afford it then you did not get it. There was no credit cards and no Ill pay you laters.


Because everything was better in the "old days," right?

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