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I am wondering why people say voting 3rd party is a wasted vote.  Thoughts? 

by on Oct. 10, 2012 at 2:05 PM
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Naturewoman4
by Platinum Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 5:31 PM

I have researched quite a bit on the Libertarian Party.  I don't agree with a lot of their platforms.  Especially, on legalizing drugs.  There's a few others I can't go along with.  I'm not registered Dem. or Rep.  I believe it is called Non-Partisan or Independant that I signed up with.  Where I could vote for Dems. or Reps.  Depending on who is running that year.  I need to go read up on the actual 3rd Parties though.  I did a long time ago, but I need to refresh my memory on that. 

Quoting Sisteract:


I am sure you are aware that "third" is not a party, right?

Have you checked out myriad third parties? Researched their platforms? 

 

 

Major political parties

Those parties that have "an independent state organization... in a majority of the states"[1] is listed as a major party. This does not include Independent Democrats or Independent Republicans.

Political Party States* Founded in Former Titles International Affiliations
Democratic Party 50 + DC 1828 Alliance of Democrats
Republican Party 50 + DC 1854 International Democrat Union
Libertarian Party 45[2] 1971 Interlibertarians
Green Party 32 + DC[2] 1991 Global Greens
Constitution Party 37[2] 1992 U.S. Taxpayers' Party

[edit]Minor political parties

This does not include independents.


Political Party Founded in Former Titles International Affiliations
America First Party 2002
American Party* 1969
American Populist Party 2009
American Third Position Party 2010
Americans Elect 2011
America's Party 2008 America's Independent Party
Christian Liberty Party 1996 American Heritage Party
Citizens Party of the United States 2004 New American Independent Party
Communist Party of the United States of America 1919 International Meeting of Communist and Workers' Parties
Freedom Socialist Party 1966
Independence Party of America 2007
Independent American Party 1998
Jefferson Republican Party 2006
Justice Party 2011
Labor Party 1996
Modern Whig Party 2008
National Socialist Movement 1974
Objectivist Party 2008
Party for Socialism and Liberation 2004
Peace and Freedom Party 1967
Prohibition Party 1869
Raza Unida Party 1970
Reform Party of the United States of America 1995
Socialist Action 1983 Fourth International
Socialist Alternative 1986 Committee for a Workers' International
Socialist Equality Party 1966 Workers League International Committee of the Fourth International
Socialist Party USA 1973
Socialist Workers Party 1938 Pathfinder tendency (unofficial)
United States Marijuana Party* 2002
United States Pacifist Party 1983
United States Pirate Party 2006
Unity Party of America 2004
Workers World Party
Quoting Naturewoman4:

Fair enough I agree :)  I still couldn't vote for Libertarian for their stance on drugs.  I do want to say in regards to voting 3rd party, I can understand why people would do that.  Because, frankly I'm alittle tired of both parties myself, to be honest.  I'd LOVE to see a 3rd Party gaining in popularity :)  Like I've said, I'm not a register Dem. OR Rep.  I'm non-partisan.  But, I believe Obama just can't do what is needed to turn this Country around & put Americans back to work.  He's record as President has already shown that.  Time for a change.  Whether it's Romney or a 3rd Party.  :)

Quoting Bigmetalchicken:

Not trying to argue or debate, I just want to point out that they are not wanting a 'weak' military. They want our military to be used for what it is for, which is protecting our country, instead of what it is being used for, which is pretty much the World's police.  Look at the state of our homefront. Look at how the two parties have run things into the ground.  We can not even take care of our own, what right do we have to send our military to other countries to impose how our politicans think they should live?

We can still have a strong military, without having a President that uses it as an extention of his penis.

Quoting Naturewoman4:

I do feel personally that it is a wasted vote & just as bad as not voting at all.  But, of course, I'm bias because I want Obama out.  But, it could work both for or against Romney OR Obama.  I could never vote for any 3rd party that is Libertarian.  I could never vote for Ron Paul, Gary Johnson because they believe in legalizing of all drugs.  I also, can't vote for Libertarian for example, because their stance is having a 'weak' Military, that I'm against.  I feel we ALWAYS need to have a strong military, doesn't mean that we should involved ourselves in wars, just to be strong militarily. 

 Even if they just want 'pot' legalize I still can't go along with that.  Another 3rd party, yes I could go along with that.  I'm a registered non-partisan.  So, I can vote for whomever that is running, no matter what they're party is.  That I feel would be best to run our Country & has the best interests for our Country. 


 




Naturewoman4
by Platinum Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 5:45 PM

No, I believe & have always wished that a 3rd Party would gain in popularity.  Just not the Libertarian Party.  I read up on the other parties once, but I need to refresh my memory on what their phatforms are.  I DO believe & ALWAYS have believed that both parties are corrupt.  But, that doesn't mean a 3rd Party wouldn't be as well.  Afterall, they are all Politicans.  I HATE the fact who can get the most money for campaigning, or who the Media loves has an advantage. 

To explain WHY I'm against legalizing pot we might be here all day long.  Because, I'm sure we're going to go back & forth on this issue. lol.  I just feel it's not the way to go.  I believe we will then have a bigger problem dealing with our youths using pot.  I feel it's bad for our youth & it CAN be a drug that leads to other drugs.  It has proven that it hinders one's ability to concentrate while in school.  It has proven that it DOES limit your driving abilities on reaction time.  Although, I agree pot affects people differently.

  But, still I feel it is not the way to go & could have dangerous consequences.  Especially, for our youth.  I have know people that used/abused pot & it wasn't a pretty picture.  It basically has destroyed their lives.  I have first hand on people that has said that, & they used/or still is using pot.  So, this is NOT just coming from me.  I agree alcohol is also bad & has caused a lot of deaths on the road.  I just don't want another drug to be legalized, as far as I'm concern they can make alcohol illegal too. 

Quoting radioheid:

 So what you're saying is that you don't believe in the democratic process? That only two corrupt politicians may run for President because they have the most money to spend on media coverage and campaigning?

Can you explain why you don't feel marijuana should be legalized?

You present a very weak argument against 3rd party voting.

Quoting Naturewoman4:

I do feel personally that it is a wasted vote & just as bad as not voting at all.  But, of course, I'm bias because I want Obama out.  But, it could work both for or against Romney OR Obama.  I could never vote for any 3rd party that is Libertarian.  I could never vote for Ron Paul, Gary Johnson because they believe in legalizing of all drugs.  I also, can't vote for Libertarian for example, because their stance is having a 'weak' Military, that I'm against.  I feel we ALWAYS need to have a strong military, doesn't mean that we should involved ourselves in wars, just to be strong militarily. 

 Even if they just want 'pot' legalize I still can't go along with that.  Another 3rd party, yes I could go along with that.  I'm a registered non-partisan.  So, I can vote for whomever that is running, no matter what they're party is.  That I feel would be best to run our Country & has the best interests for our Country. 

 


OHgirlinCA
by Platinum Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 5:48 PM
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 It's not a wasted vote.  

I wonder how many consider voting for Romney in California a wasted vote since everybody already knows Obama will take California...

OHgirlinCA
by Platinum Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 5:52 PM

 Being in California, you know Obama will take the state.  So knowing this, why wouldn't a vote for Romney be a "wasted" vote too?

Quoting Naturewoman4:

I do feel personally that it is a wasted vote & just as bad as not voting at all.  But, of course, I'm bias because I want Obama out.  But, it could work both for or against Romney OR Obama.  I could never vote for any 3rd party that is Libertarian.  I could never vote for Ron Paul, Gary Johnson because they believe in legalizing of all drugs.  I also, can't vote for Libertarian for example, because their stance is having a 'weak' Military, that I'm against.  I feel we ALWAYS need to have a strong military, doesn't mean that we should involved ourselves in wars, just to be strong militarily. 

 Even if they just want 'pot' legalize I still can't go along with that.  Another 3rd party, yes I could go along with that.  I'm a registered non-partisan.  So, I can vote for whomever that is running, no matter what they're party is.  That I feel would be best to run our Country & has the best interests for our Country. 

 

radioheid
by Libertarian on Oct. 10, 2012 at 6:05 PM
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 2 out of 3 teenagers will have used marijuana by the time they graduate high school. Over 80% of all adults over the age of 25 have smoked marijuana. America hasn't collapsed upon itself yet, nor become addicted to meth or crack in apocalyptic numbers. If 80% of the population has smoked pot, yet less than 20% are or ever will be addicted to narcotics, it would appear that marijuana is no more a "gateway drug" than Tylenol.

I'm not arguing that marijuana is bad for kids. We can both agree that it is.

Can you otherwise explain how it is a "danger to society"? Let's not confuse pot with bath salts. People aren't having their faces ripped off over pot. People aren't walking out windows, wrecking their cars, prostituting themselves (or their children) or killing their families over pot. Aside from the simple fact that using marijuana is by itself illegal, there is no relationship between pot use and crime. When I was younger and smoked it, I preferred laying on the couch with a bag of Cheetos, watching Beavis & Butthead on tv. Most of the people I've known throughout my life who smoked it engaged in similar activities while "under the influence". How, exactly, is this dangerous? lol

Quoting Naturewoman4:

No, I believe & have always wished that a 3rd Party would gain in popularity.  Just not the Libertarian Party.  I read up on the other parties once, but I need to refresh my memory on what their phatforms are.  I DO believe & ALWAYS have believed that both parties are corrupt.  But, that doesn't mean a 3rd Party wouldn't be as well.  Afterall, they are all Politicans.  I HATE the fact who can get the most money for campaigning, or who the Media loves has an advantage. 

To explain WHY I'm against legalizing pot we might be here all day long.  Because, I'm sure we're going to go back & forth on this issue. lol.  I just feel it's not the way to go.  I believe we will then have a bigger problem dealing with our youths using pot.  I feel it's bad for our youth & it CAN be a drug that leads to other drugs.  It has proven that it hinders one's ability to concentrate while in school.  It has proven that it DOES limit your driving abilities on reaction time.  Although, I agree pot affects people differently.

  But, still I feel it is not the way to go & could have dangerous consequences.  Especially, for our youth.  I have know people that used/abused pot & it wasn't a pretty picture.  It basically has destroyed their lives.  I have first hand on people that has said that, & they used/or still is using pot.  So, this is NOT just coming from me.  I agree alcohol is also bad & has caused a lot of deaths on the road.  I just don't want another drug to be legalized, as far as I'm concern they can make alcohol illegal too. 

Quoting radioheid:

 So what you're saying is that you don't believe in the democratic process? That only two corrupt politicians may run for President because they have the most money to spend on media coverage and campaigning?

Can you explain why you don't feel marijuana should be legalized?

You present a very weak argument against 3rd party voting.

Quoting Naturewoman4:

I do feel personally that it is a wasted vote & just as bad as not voting at all.  But, of course, I'm bias because I want Obama out.  But, it could work both for or against Romney OR Obama.  I could never vote for any 3rd party that is Libertarian.  I could never vote for Ron Paul, Gary Johnson because they believe in legalizing of all drugs.  I also, can't vote for Libertarian for example, because their stance is having a 'weak' Military, that I'm against.  I feel we ALWAYS need to have a strong military, doesn't mean that we should involved ourselves in wars, just to be strong militarily. 

 Even if they just want 'pot' legalize I still can't go along with that.  Another 3rd party, yes I could go along with that.  I'm a registered non-partisan.  So, I can vote for whomever that is running, no matter what they're party is.  That I feel would be best to run our Country & has the best interests for our Country. 

 

 

 


"Roger that. Over."

R   A   D    I    O    H    E    I    D

Naturewoman4
by Platinum Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 6:15 PM

That's a fair enough question.  First, yes Calif. is a heavy Dem. State.  I guess I just say to myself, 'well who knows maybe this time it will be different'.  Afterall, this State has voted for Arnold S. for Gov. & Reagan, & they're  Reps.  So, there's always that hope.  For me, like I said about the 3rd Party, they have to vote with their conscience.  I have to do the same, just like everyone else in this Country.  :) 

Quoting OHgirlinCA:

 Being in California, you know Obama will take the state.  So knowing this, why wouldn't a vote for Romney be a "wasted" vote too?

Quoting Naturewoman4:

I do feel personally that it is a wasted vote & just as bad as not voting at all.  But, of course, I'm bias because I want Obama out.  But, it could work both for or against Romney OR Obama.  I could never vote for any 3rd party that is Libertarian.  I could never vote for Ron Paul, Gary Johnson because they believe in legalizing of all drugs.  I also, can't vote for Libertarian for example, because their stance is having a 'weak' Military, that I'm against.  I feel we ALWAYS need to have a strong military, doesn't mean that we should involved ourselves in wars, just to be strong militarily. 

 Even if they just want 'pot' legalize I still can't go along with that.  Another 3rd party, yes I could go along with that.  I'm a registered non-partisan.  So, I can vote for whomever that is running, no matter what they're party is.  That I feel would be best to run our Country & has the best interests for our Country. 

 

 

muslimahpj
by Ruby Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 6:27 PM


Quoting eema.gray:

The conventional answer is that a vote for Johnson or Stein "takes away a vote" from oh, let's say Obama and "gives" that vote to Romney.  Which is the strangest math I've ever heard, LOL.  

Then there's the issue of popular vote vs. electoral college vote.  Most likely, the college will vote in favor of Obama or Romney.  So even if, by some miracle, Johnson were to win the popular vote in Novemeber, either Romney or Obama will find themselves (back) in the White House on the strength of the electoral collage, which by the Constitution has more power than the popular vote on its own.  Convoluted, based on the idea that we the people aren't REALLY smart enough to vote for the right person so an "educated elite" get the final say.  One of the things America should be pestering the next few Congress sessions about is a revamp of the popular vote vs the electoral collage.

I agree. We need to do away with the electoral college. 


Naturewoman4
by Platinum Member on Oct. 10, 2012 at 6:31 PM

I can't argue or debate your facts, as I don't have mine in front of me.  All I can say is, I went once down to Barnes & Noble, took ALL the books I can find on the subject.  Many written by Dr's. & the effects of pot over time.  Also, what pot does to people.  I will admit that smoking pot would be no more dangerous than a person that drank, & just stayed home.  But, as we both know that doesn't always happen.  They get in their car & drive.  Pot also is a lot different (higher content) than it was a long time ago.  So, that makes it even more dangerous. 

I'm more concerned for our youth.  I DO feel there would be higher instances of youths taking it to the next level.  A even MORE dangerous drug.  Not to mention that most youths (I feel) end up committing criminal acts & dropping out of school, etc.  I'm not saying ALL, I wouldn't take that risk by legalizing it.  To me, it's like say "ok it's legal...so why not".  I wish they would make alcohol illegal.  But, having yet another 'drug' made legal isn't the answer.  There's a list of danger & health issues associated with pot users.  WHY legal something that is dangerous for one's health?  I agree, there are WAY too much other 'legal' sustances out there. 

 But, adding another one isn't the answer as I've said.  My husband when he was young smoked pot for 6 mos.  He told me what it did to him.  That was years ago, & now the strength of pot is A LOT more higher.  My husband said he had to quit because he couldn't focus in College.  He said he wouldn't chance driving.  Yet, we ALL know that people drive while under the influence of alcohol or drugs (pot).  I just don't want another drug become legalized.  Americans are NOT that responsible to have it legalized.  Have it legal for Medical purposes yes, but for those that are in 'severe' pain, terminally ill or have cancer.  Cronic pain, that prevents them from working & nothing else releives their pain YES.  But, they would also have to not be working or driving.

Quoting radioheid:

 2 out of 3 teenagers will have used marijuana by the time they graduate high school. Over 80% of all adults over the age of 25 have smoked marijuana. America hasn't collapsed upon itself yet, nor become addicted to meth or crack in apocalyptic numbers. If 80% of the population has smoked pot, yet less than 20% are or ever will be addicted to narcotics, it would appear that marijuana is no more a "gateway drug" than Tylenol.

I'm not arguing that marijuana is bad for kids. We can both agree that it is.

Can you otherwise explain how it is a "danger to society"? Let's not confuse pot with bath salts. People aren't having their faces ripped off over pot. People aren't walking out windows, wrecking their cars, prostituting themselves (or their children) or killing their families over pot. Aside from the simple fact that using marijuana is by itself illegal, there is no relationship between pot use and crime. When I was younger and smoked it, I preferred laying on the couch with a bag of Cheetos, watching Beavis & Butthead on tv. Most of the people I've known throughout my life who smoked it engaged in similar activities while "under the influence". How, exactly, is this dangerous? lol

Quoting Naturewoman4:

No, I believe & have always wished that a 3rd Party would gain in popularity.  Just not the Libertarian Party.  I read up on the other parties once, but I need to refresh my memory on what their phatforms are.  I DO believe & ALWAYS have believed that both parties are corrupt.  But, that doesn't mean a 3rd Party wouldn't be as well.  Afterall, they are all Politicans.  I HATE the fact who can get the most money for campaigning, or who the Media loves has an advantage. 

To explain WHY I'm against legalizing pot we might be here all day long.  Because, I'm sure we're going to go back & forth on this issue. lol.  I just feel it's not the way to go.  I believe we will then have a bigger problem dealing with our youths using pot.  I feel it's bad for our youth & it CAN be a drug that leads to other drugs.  It has proven that it hinders one's ability to concentrate while in school.  It has proven that it DOES limit your driving abilities on reaction time.  Although, I agree pot affects people differently.

  But, still I feel it is not the way to go & could have dangerous consequences.  Especially, for our youth.  I have know people that used/abused pot & it wasn't a pretty picture.  It basically has destroyed their lives.  I have first hand on people that has said that, & they used/or still is using pot.  So, this is NOT just coming from me.  I agree alcohol is also bad & has caused a lot of deaths on the road.  I just don't want another drug to be legalized, as far as I'm concern they can make alcohol illegal too. 

Quoting radioheid:

 So what you're saying is that you don't believe in the democratic process? That only two corrupt politicians may run for President because they have the most money to spend on media coverage and campaigning?

Can you explain why you don't feel marijuana should be legalized?

You present a very weak argument against 3rd party voting.

Quoting Naturewoman4:

I do feel personally that it is a wasted vote & just as bad as not voting at all.  But, of course, I'm bias because I want Obama out.  But, it could work both for or against Romney OR Obama.  I could never vote for any 3rd party that is Libertarian.  I could never vote for Ron Paul, Gary Johnson because they believe in legalizing of all drugs.  I also, can't vote for Libertarian for example, because their stance is having a 'weak' Military, that I'm against.  I feel we ALWAYS need to have a strong military, doesn't mean that we should involved ourselves in wars, just to be strong militarily. 

 Even if they just want 'pot' legalize I still can't go along with that.  Another 3rd party, yes I could go along with that.  I'm a registered non-partisan.  So, I can vote for whomever that is running, no matter what they're party is.  That I feel would be best to run our Country & has the best interests for our Country. 

 

 

 


Sisteract
by Whoopie on Oct. 10, 2012 at 6:48 PM
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It is interesting how the legalization of some drugs could affect the flow of money, particularly within a state.

Operate/make it a business/create jobs

Regulate

Tax

Stop the criminalization and watch the judicial and prison costs decrease.

You know who profits most and applauds our current way of dealing with drugs? The drug dealers- they make boatloads of tax free money.

IMO, legalization is FISCALLY sound. I am all for fixing our FISCAL problems.

Alcohol and prescription drugs are just as problematic- Yet no one is yammering about criminalizing those-

radioheid
by Libertarian on Oct. 10, 2012 at 7:02 PM

I last smoked pot 4 years ago this month. It was no different than the shit I smoked in high school 15 years ago.

I find it amusing that you'll agree that it isn't dangerous, and is certainly no more dangerous than alcohol, yet alcohol should remain legal while marijuana should be illegal. Can you explain this? And what do you mean by "youths taking it to the next level"? What level is that? "Youths" have been smoking it for the last 50 years, and no "new level" has been reached. Hell, I'm intrigued! What is it you know that I don't, when I've probably smoked a pound of weed in my day while you admittedly haven't smoked it at all!?!?!?

High school drop-out rates are linked strongly to socioeconomic factors (particularly poverty) and teen pregnancy, not marijuana use. Any relationship between them is casual.

It can be argued that Americans aren't "responsible enough" for a lot of things. Our high rate of incarceration proves that. Americans aren't responsible enough to vote, have children, manage finances or drive cars, but I'll be damned if I'd support taking all of those things away in the name of the minority of morons who aren't responsible enough to speak for the rest of us!

Quoting Naturewoman4:

I can't argue or debate your facts, as I don't have mine in front of me.  All I can say is, I went once down to Barnes & Noble, took ALL the books I can find on the subject.  Many written by Dr's. & the effects of pot over time.  Also, what pot does to people.  I will admit that smoking pot would be no more dangerous than a person that drank, & just stayed home.  But, as we both know that doesn't always happen.  They get in their car & drive.  Pot also is a lot different (higher content) than it was a long time ago.  So, that makes it even more dangerous. 

I'm more concerned for our youth.  I DO feel there would be higher instances of youths taking it to the next level.  A even MORE dangerous drug.  Not to mention that most youths (I feel) end up committing criminal acts & dropping out of school, etc.  I'm not saying ALL, I wouldn't take that risk by legalizing it.  To me, it's like say "ok it's legal...so why not".  I wish they would make alcohol illegal.  But, having yet another 'drug' made legal isn't the answer.  There's a list of danger & health issues associated with pot users.  WHY legal something that is dangerous for one's health?  I agree, there are WAY too much other 'legal' sustances out there. 

 But, adding another one isn't the answer as I've said.  My husband when he was young smoked pot for 6 mos.  He told me what it did to him.  That was years ago, & now the strength of pot is A LOT more higher.  My husband said he had to quit because he couldn't focus in College.  He said he wouldn't chance driving.  Yet, we ALL know that people drive while under the influence of alcohol or drugs (pot).  I just don't want another drug become legalized.  Americans are NOT that responsible to have it legalized.  Have it legal for Medical purposes yes, but for those that are in 'severe' pain, terminally ill or have cancer.  Cronic pain, that prevents them from working & nothing else releives their pain YES.  But, they would also have to not be working or driving.

Quoting radioheid:

 2 out of 3 teenagers will have used marijuana by the time they graduate high school. Over 80% of all adults over the age of 25 have smoked marijuana. America hasn't collapsed upon itself yet, nor become addicted to meth or crack in apocalyptic numbers. If 80% of the population has smoked pot, yet less than 20% are or ever will be addicted to narcotics, it would appear that marijuana is no more a "gateway drug" than Tylenol.

I'm not arguing that marijuana is bad for kids. We can both agree that it is.

Can you otherwise explain how it is a "danger to society"? Let's not confuse pot with bath salts. People aren't having their faces ripped off over pot. People aren't walking out windows, wrecking their cars, prostituting themselves (or their children) or killing their families over pot. Aside from the simple fact that using marijuana is by itself illegal, there is no relationship between pot use and crime. When I was younger and smoked it, I preferred laying on the couch with a bag of Cheetos, watching Beavis & Butthead on tv. Most of the people I've known throughout my life who smoked it engaged in similar activities while "under the influence". How, exactly, is this dangerous? lol

Quoting Naturewoman4:

No, I believe & have always wished that a 3rd Party would gain in popularity.  Just not the Libertarian Party.  I read up on the other parties once, but I need to refresh my memory on what their phatforms are.  I DO believe & ALWAYS have believed that both parties are corrupt.  But, that doesn't mean a 3rd Party wouldn't be as well.  Afterall, they are all Politicans.  I HATE the fact who can get the most money for campaigning, or who the Media loves has an advantage. 

To explain WHY I'm against legalizing pot we might be here all day long.  Because, I'm sure we're going to go back & forth on this issue. lol.  I just feel it's not the way to go.  I believe we will then have a bigger problem dealing with our youths using pot.  I feel it's bad for our youth & it CAN be a drug that leads to other drugs.  It has proven that it hinders one's ability to concentrate while in school.  It has proven that it DOES limit your driving abilities on reaction time.  Although, I agree pot affects people differently.

  But, still I feel it is not the way to go & could have dangerous consequences.  Especially, for our youth.  I have know people that used/abused pot & it wasn't a pretty picture.  It basically has destroyed their lives.  I have first hand on people that has said that, & they used/or still is using pot.  So, this is NOT just coming from me.  I agree alcohol is also bad & has caused a lot of deaths on the road.  I just don't want another drug to be legalized, as far as I'm concern they can make alcohol illegal too. 

Quoting radioheid:

 So what you're saying is that you don't believe in the democratic process? That only two corrupt politicians may run for President because they have the most money to spend on media coverage and campaigning?

Can you explain why you don't feel marijuana should be legalized?

You present a very weak argument against 3rd party voting.

Quoting Naturewoman4:

I do feel personally that it is a wasted vote & just as bad as not voting at all.  But, of course, I'm bias because I want Obama out.  But, it could work both for or against Romney OR Obama.  I could never vote for any 3rd party that is Libertarian.  I could never vote for Ron Paul, Gary Johnson because they believe in legalizing of all drugs.  I also, can't vote for Libertarian for example, because their stance is having a 'weak' Military, that I'm against.  I feel we ALWAYS need to have a strong military, doesn't mean that we should involved ourselves in wars, just to be strong militarily. 

 Even if they just want 'pot' legalize I still can't go along with that.  Another 3rd party, yes I could go along with that.  I'm a registered non-partisan.  So, I can vote for whomever that is running, no matter what they're party is.  That I feel would be best to run our Country & has the best interests for our Country. 

 

 

 

 

 


"Roger that. Over."

R   A   D    I    O    H    E    I    D

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