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2 cents for a grape?
YOU ARE NOT GOING
TO BELIEVE THIS
At approximately 2:30 pm, September 6, 2012, I entered the Publix store on Main St. in Gainesville, FL to pick up a few items.
I gathered my items and went to the 10 items and under register to check-out. The person in front of me (a white female, approximate age 35-43, fake nails, big braided hairdo, clean clothes, carrying a purse and a plastic drinking cup) put her purchase on the checkout surface - ONE GRAPE.
Yes, that is correct ONE GRAPE. The cashier asked if that was all, she replied yes.
The cashier then weighted the GRAPE and told the woman the cost was $.02 (TWO CENTS). The woman then pulled out her Food Stamp EBT card and swiped it through the credit card machine, requesting $24.98 in cash back.
The cashier asked if she wanted the GRAPE, the woman replied no and the GRAPE was put in the garbage can.
The register recorded the sale as $.02, cash back $24.98. The cashier then asked if four fives would be okay because she was out of tens, the woman agreed and took the $24.98 folded it up and put it in her pocket and left the store.
As the next person in line I asked the cashier as a taxpayer what in the world just happened here?! she said she was on the clock and could not comment.
I then asked if I had actually seen this person purchase and discard a GRAPE, then get cash back on her Food Stamp EBT card.
The cashier responded that it happens all day every day in their store. She also said that if the person buying the GRAPE has it rung up over .02 they get mad and make her reweigh it.
My next comment was to ask the cashier if she planned to vote in November and she said she could hardly wait for November 6 to get here, as one taxpayer to another. I paid for my groceries, in cash, and left the store madder than 10 wet hens.
by on Oct. 11, 2012 at 2:47 AM
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ashellbell
by shellbark on Oct. 12, 2012 at 3:14 PM
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Exactly. I have a girlfriend who does nails and always does mine for free (I babysit for her for free). I don't understand why people feel the need to tell others what they can and cannot have simply because they're on PA. Gods forbid you give yourself a treat now and then.


Quoting survivorinohio:


Quoting ashellbell:

Ok, so I've put some thought in to why I find this article so off putting. The writer is quick to point out the 'luxuries' the woman seems to have (clean clothes, nails done, hair done) as if people who receive assistance aren't allowed to have these things, that all people who are on PA should look like scum. That it's impossible that someone may have treated her to these things, or maybe she saved her Pennies to have these things done. It makes it seem like anyone who has "nice" things on PA are somehow abusing the system. It's generalizing and it's wrong. I also don't like how this person automatically points out fraud because they don't understand the different forms of PA. This whole article is disturbing and people are dumb enough to buy it as truth..I just don't like it. It lacks substance. Poods, I'm a little disappointed.

This brings to mind the time hubby told me my nails looked good for fake ones lol.  I have never had my nails done but when I was young they were always long and painted.  Polish costs very little, do people really have an issue with people havng pretty nails?  How do we know who paints their own and who gets them painted?i


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Autiziumom
by Member on Oct. 12, 2012 at 11:29 PM
Wow! I've been on assistance before and I'm thank ful only food stamps. I am a tax over payer so when I c this kind of abuse happening it gets me upset.
glitterteaz
by Ruby Member on Oct. 12, 2012 at 11:32 PM

This story has been proven to be a dumb ass email with no shred of truth at all.

Quoting Autiziumom:

Wow! I've been on assistance before and I'm thank ful only food stamps. I am a tax over payer so when I c this kind of abuse happening it gets me upset.


sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Oct. 12, 2012 at 11:43 PM
Where is the abuse? Even if ever word was true..where is the abuse

Quoting Autiziumom:

Wow! I've been on assistance before and I'm thank ful only food stamps. I am a tax over payer so when I c this kind of abuse happening it gets me upset.
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sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Oct. 12, 2012 at 11:46 PM
Some people wanna tell them what to buy

And others would be nasty a-holes no matter WHAT they bought


Quoting Stephanie329:

I don't care what people do with their assistance, barring hurting others.
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Lizardannie1966
by on Oct. 13, 2012 at 1:28 AM

I don't think you're seeing that I agree with some of your points.

Do you normally buy one strawberry? One grape? My point is that it's clear what they were after--they wanted that cash back. It's almost like buying a pack of gum to break a hundred dollar bill.

My questions were to continue the discussion further; not argue the points you were making as again, I agree with some of them.


Quoting katy_kay08:

You say the scenario is clear but I don't agree. What you see as obvious fraud appears on the surface to be a person needing to get cash off a card for the least possible expense. There is nothing to suggest the money was misused or received illegally.

If you complained about this situation I doubt anyone would waste time on it; as the problem is a perception issue not a clear case of fraud, but yes the states do investigate fraud allegations.


And then would the state even bother to listen to you, the person reporting the fraud, about the one grape purchase?

This is why I was asking--a transaction like this, it's pretty clear what was going on. However, what type of stand can be taken when it's not actual fraud but only suspected?

What would be true evidence of fraud then when it comes to store purchases (and not necessarily what we THINK should be considered fraud) and especially when there is one card for both FS and CA?

Complaining on actual cases of fraud is something that should be done when it's seen and witnessed. However, it seems there's a thin line there on what constitutes true fraud and what doesn't.


toomanypoodles
by Ruby Member on Oct. 13, 2012 at 8:47 AM

 

Quoting Clairwil:

Quoting happinessforyou:
Quoting krysstizzle:
Quoting happinessforyou:

THIS is why so many of us think most if not all forms of PA should be stopped. :(


Why, because of fake internet hoaxes?

No- I didn't say it was real or fake. But for every "fake" story there are probably many more "real" system abuse stories. This is my opinion on this subject that's all.

Poodles.  THIS is why posting such an 'amusing' story isharmful.   Because there are people out there, like happinessforyou, who will react that way.

 I believed it to be a real story.  Sorry, welfare is not my life, except to pay the taxes that pay into that system.  I hate to admit I am gullible with some of these e-mail stories, and I trust what I read for the most part....if this isn't a real story, fine...but I still believe there is abuse to the system and if this post got us talking about it I think that's a good thing. 

 

Sorry for the huge font---my eyes are not working well this morning.  Can't read what I'm typing.

(And lizardannie....I can't see your font at all, amiga. :/)

romalove
by Roma on Oct. 13, 2012 at 8:50 AM
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Quoting toomanypoodles:

 

Quoting Clairwil:

Quoting happinessforyou:
Quoting krysstizzle:
Quoting happinessforyou:

THIS is why so many of us think most if not all forms of PA should be stopped. :(


Why, because of fake internet hoaxes?

No- I didn't say it was real or fake. But for every "fake" story there are probably many more "real" system abuse stories. This is my opinion on this subject that's all.

Poodles.  THIS is why posting such an 'amusing' story isharmful.   Because there are people out there, like happinessforyou, who will react that way.

 I believed it to be a real story.  Sorry, welfare is not my life, except to pay the taxes that pay into that system.  I hate to admit I am gullible with some of these e-mail stories, and I trust what I read for the most part....if this isn't a real story, fine...but I still believe there is abuse to the system and if this post got us talking about it I think that's a good thing. 

 

Sorry for the huge font---my eyes are not working well this morning.  Can't read what I'm typing.

(And lizardannie....I can't see your font at all, amiga. :/)

 I'm sorry you are having trouble with your eyes. 

Regarding posting something you think is true from an email:  as a general rule, if I get something like this, I go to snopes.com first if I think there may be any truth to it.  If you had done that, you would have seen that this is a story that has been "around" in different versions. 

When you want to talk about something like welfare fraud and the jump-off to the discussion is something that isn't completely true, you (the generic you) will be seen as having an ax to grind, possibly gullible and ready to fall for any propaganda because of that ax to grind, and the discussion will become about "you" and not the topic at hand.

JMO

toomanypoodles
by Ruby Member on Oct. 13, 2012 at 8:51 AM
Quoting mommajen32:


Quoting toomanypoodles:

Quoting Its.me.Sam.:

i dont know what youre talking about.. because im talking about a while back..i shouldve been more specifc.  sorry my bad.
when food stamps were actually like dollar bills..in denominations.  and the food stamp shuffle was somethign that was done a LOT.  people would get something for like 1.10 and then keep the .90 change and do it again and again until they had enough for whatever they needed to pay for with cash because food stamps werent acceptable - like cigs booze or diapers and wipes etc.

Quoting glitterteaz:

you can not get cash for foodstamps EVER.  The thing you are talking about is TANF it is cash assistance and WAY harder to get on.

Quoting Its.me.Sam.:

i call it the food stamp shuffle... but i dont know how it words with those cards.
some people do it because they need the cash to pay for gas or diapers - things they need but cant pay for with food stamps.... unfortunately others do it to pay for cigs or booze or going to the movies and crap like that. 



This is most likely the way I have witnessed it happening.

YOu haven't seen this since the late '90s...almost 20 years!

I've seen it since then...but again, I don't know what it is they are using, but I have seen folks turn around and buy things they are not allowed to buy....whatever....I see people scamming. And now CM is glitching on me and I can't get the editor to make this bigger so I can read what I wrote. Sorry
survivorinohio
by René on Oct. 13, 2012 at 9:02 AM


Quoting toomanypoodles:

Quoting mommajen32:


Quoting toomanypoodles:

Quoting Its.me.Sam.:

i dont know what youre talking about.. because im talking about a while back..i shouldve been more specifc.  sorry my bad.
when food stamps were actually like dollar bills..in denominations.  and the food stamp shuffle was somethign that was done a LOT.  people would get something for like 1.10 and then keep the .90 change and do it again and again until they had enough for whatever they needed to pay for with cash because food stamps werent acceptable - like cigs booze or diapers and wipes etc.

Quoting glitterteaz:

you can not get cash for foodstamps EVER.  The thing you are talking about is TANF it is cash assistance and WAY harder to get on.

Quoting Its.me.Sam.:

i call it the food stamp shuffle... but i dont know how it words with those cards.
some people do it because they need the cash to pay for gas or diapers - things they need but cant pay for with food stamps.... unfortunately others do it to pay for cigs or booze or going to the movies and crap like that. 



This is most likely the way I have witnessed it happening.

YOu haven't seen this since the late '90s...almost 20 years!

I've seen it since then...but again, I don't know what it is they are using, but I have seen folks turn around and buy things they are not allowed to buy....whatever....I see people scamming. And now CM is glitching on me and I can't get the editor to make this bigger so I can read what I wrote. Sorry

How?  Paper food stamps have been gone a very long time.  This was only possible when paper foodstamps existed. I had a friend who was a pro at it.

If people are purchasing things they are not allowed to buy the store is committing fraud as well.

I dont expect you to even read what I write, I know you do not wish to discuss it with me.  I just want it on the record that I attempted to break through to  you on issues on which you are deceived.

How far you go in life depends on your being: tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of both the weak and strong.  Because someday in life you would have been one or all of these.  GeorgeWashingtonCarver


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