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Race as an indicator of student success?

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Our FL Dept. of Education has approved a plan that involves using a student's race as a benchmark for expectations of success.
I personally feel that they should in NO way let the color of skin determine whether a student will be successful. I am smh at this one.


http://www.firstcoastnews.com/topstories/article/277607/483/Race-as-an-indicator-of-student-success


JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Everyone wants their child to succeed, and while that may look different for each kid, it shouldn't be based on how they look.

But according to the Department of Education in Florida, the color of a student's skin may determine their ability to succeed.

Their new strategic vision for 2018 factors in a student's race to their performanceexpectations.

Marquita Wilson wants the best for her daughter.

Wilson's daughter is a senior at William Raines High School and she expects her to do well after graduation.

"The world is competitive and well rounded. You have to be able to present both," Wilson said.

But the new strategic vision generated by the Department of Education does not have the same expectations for all students.

The Board of Education just approved a plan for the next six years that factors in a students race as an indicator of success.

"The students should be measured for where they are, because the color of your skin doesn't determine that," she said.

The statistics laid out by the department of education tell a different story.

They broke the goal's down in math and reading, here are the reading numbers:

By 2018, 90 percent of Asian students are expected to be reading at grade level.

But only 80 percent of white students, 81 percent of Hispanic students, and 74 percent of black students are expected to do the same.

Seventy-four percent is not an acceptable number for Marquita Wilson.

"It's definitely a negative connotation, especially for those who can achieve higher, and now you're saying all you have to achieve is this," she said.

Before the Board of Education approved the strategic plan, some members raised the same questions.

"If Asians can have a goal of 90 percent in reading, why can't whites, and other subcategories. So I would just ask my fellow board members if we are happywith the signal this sends," said Board Member John Padget.

"It would be making a heck of a statement, wouldn't it John, to say this is what we expect Hispanics and African Americans will be able to accomplish compared to other groups and just leave it at that. You throw up a big question there," said Board Member Roberto Martinez.

Other subcategories were included in the plan, with disabled students, economically challenged students, and English-learners all under 80 percent reading by 2018.

Board Members in support of the strategic vision argued that the numbers they're aiming for in all categories would be an improvement on current levels.

Though statistically each racial group is not expected to improve at the same rate.

"I think we need to be realistic in our ability to impact those at the same degree," said Board Member Kathleen Shanahan.

The Board voted to approve the plan, which will now be the gold standard for every school in Florida.

Marquita Wilson thinks it's a shame the state doesn't hold all their children to the same standard.

"They all go to school together, they live in society together, work on the same jobs, so the standards should meet across the board for all of the kids," said Wilson.
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by on Oct. 11, 2012 at 7:23 AM
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iamcafemom83
by Bronze Member on Oct. 13, 2012 at 9:34 PM
Quoting garnet83:

First of all, I still haven't gotten the clarification I'm looking for. Second, the teachers can present the information. It is up to the kids to put forth the effort and the parents to be involved in their children's education. And socio-economics does exhibit trends. Just sayin'




It did mention socio economic as a seperate commodity in this particular article. They are expected to be under 80 percent. I can understand socioeconomic challenged students having issues here, maybe their parents work ridiculous hours and the focus is unfortunately, not on school.

The disgusting part of this whole thing, is the reading standard here, is based solely on race. These students are all in the same classrooms. I personally believe that (besides socio economical challenged students and other issues) normal students, regardless of their race, should be reading at grade level clear across the board. Why lower expectations based on skin color?
garnet83
by Member on Oct. 15, 2012 at 9:04 AM


Quoting iamcafemom83:

Quoting garnet83:

First of all, I still haven't gotten the clarification I'm looking for. Second, the teachers can present the information. It is up to the kids to put forth the effort and the parents to be involved in their children's education. And socio-economics does exhibit trends. Just sayin'




It did mention socio economic as a seperate commodity in this particular article. They are expected to be under 80 percent. I can understand socioeconomic challenged students having issues here, maybe their parents work ridiculous hours and the focus is unfortunately, not on school.

The disgusting part of this whole thing, is the reading standard here, is based solely on race. These students are all in the same classrooms. I personally believe that (besides socio economical challenged students and other issues) normal students, regardless of their race, should be reading at grade level clear across the board. Why lower expectations based on skin color?

Here's the thing. I don't think it's particularly clear that by "expected" they mean "acceptable". I agree that all children should be held to the same standard. I'm just not sure this article is saying that, as it stands now this is what we can expect, or that this is what we can consider acceptable.

Kate_Momof3
by Silver Member on Oct. 15, 2012 at 9:10 AM

I think it's nuts, too. I live in a great school district. Our kids, regardless of race, perform at a higher level than kids in predominantly white schools. There are a LOT of factors, most importantly community funding and support, that determine student success. Our schools expect parents to participate from Day One. If they don't, it's reflected in how their kids perform. I'm expected to read to my children, have them demonstrate basic reinforcement of skills taught in school, and to be a part of the school community (volunteering for activities, fundraising, PTO, etc). It's part of living here and we take a lot of pride in it. As a result our schools have been recognized nationally as successful schools. The teachers and administration have been the first to acknowledge that it's the community and the parents who have been large contributing factors. And race has zero to do with it.

Quoting iamcafemom83:

I agree with it depending on the parents as well. Teaching doesn't stop in the classroom.
Cultural differences are one thing, but going by sheer race? I just think its nuts.


Quoting furbabymum:

 Probably cultural differences I'd think. There is only so much a teacher can do. A lot depends on the student and the parents. 


Quoting iamcafemom83:

Ouch.

Well, why must there be such a staggering difference when they are all taught in the same classrooms?



Quoting SuperChicken:


Ummm, they are not saying that Asian students should strive for 90%, whites for 80%, Hispanics for 81%, and blacks only for 74%.   They are saying that they expect those those percentages of each racial category to meet "grade level." 



If people are going to complain, fine.  But at least complain about the actual issue.  And there is much to complain about there, imo.    It's rather ironic that people complaining about reading levels lack reading comprehension.


 


MomTiara19
by Bronze Member on Oct. 15, 2012 at 9:21 AM

Hmmm..

My kids are half black and half white(Italian).Where do they fit in this survey??..lol..

There are alot of mixed race kids out there including the president.....and look what he has become:)

I am VERY proud of my kids academic and athletic achievements thus far.Yes I agree all standards should meet across the board for all of the kids.I love Obamas no child left behind program that keeps all kids regardless of race...up to speed academically.

Education is paramount for success in life.We should expect nothing but the best for our children.

~Tia

SEEKEROFSHELLS
by Platinum Member on Oct. 15, 2012 at 9:37 AM

 Now that's a great question. Say an asian and a black person have children. You add the 2 and divide by 2 to get an average. If the child is a mixture of 3 races you add the numbers and divide by 3. After the math work you crumple the paper and flush it down the toilet because it is a bunch of crap. I shake my head with those officials in Florida, I really do. I agree we should expect nothing but the best for our children.

Quoting MomTiara19:

Hmmm..

My kids are half black and half white(Italian).Where do they fit in this survey??..lol..

There are alot of mixed race kids out there including the president.....and look what he has become:)

I am VERY proud of my kids academic and athletic achievements thus far.Yes I agree all standards should meet across the board for all of the kids.I love Obamas no child left behind program that keeps all kids regardless of race...up to speed academically.

Education is paramount for success in life.We should expect nothing but the best for our children.

~Tia


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